Smoking is fine. It's just I don't do it. And you say you don't breathe into people's faces? Congratulations, we're going to get along just fine, if you can handle being called smelly from time to time by me.
Yes I smoke.. So I'm the devil now?
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Cool. Go ahead and smoke.nbamaniac said:
I'll just paraphrase a little bon mot I overheard a few years ago:
"You are a smoker. I'm a drinker. We both have equally unhealthy habits.
However, the side effects of your habit are smoke and tar. These get in my clothes and hair when you stand nearby.
The side-effects of my habit are urination and vomiting. How'd you like it if I got those in your clothes and hair!?"
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Just to completely contradict myself, I'm just about old enough to remember when you could smoke in British pubs. I actually quite liked the atmosphere (no pun intended) smoking added to pubs and bars. It marked it out as a place for the grown-ups to go and do grown-up things, away from the sterilised, finger-wagging nanny-state. And hell, nobody goes to the pub for their health, do they?
my mom and sister both smoke, I can't stand it and the smell absolutely disgusts me, I wish they didn't smoke but whatever at this point they are adults they know what they are doing to themselves if the redundent taxes don't prove anything.
I just hate the smell really, If you smoke, good for you, just dont do it around me. There are areas where you can smoke and if you stick to those then its fine, i cannot and will not stop you, however when people start smoking in areas where they shouldnt thats when we have a problem. Of course by that point its not the fact that theyre smokers that makes them dicks, its the fact that they're dicks
I didn't smoke until I hit 18, and I admit I did look down on certain people for it. To clarify- We were on a college trip, we would have to wait before setting off so certain members of the group could have a fag. Not 15 minutes of travelling later, we'd hop off the bus, and they'd spark up again, and refuse to participate in anything until they were done. I guess what I'm trying to say is anti-social smoking is a dick move.
Went to Uni, approximately... ALL of my friends smoked, we were polite, observed no smopking policies, stayed away from doors etc to respect non-smokers, never had a problem, never had a dirty look or anything. I've kinda quit now (money/can't find Lucky Strikes in my hometown) but yeah, I think it's the actions of a few are pasted across the board, bin your butts, I can't stand seeing people flick fag ends onto the street within 5 ft of a bin. Christ.
Went to Uni, approximately... ALL of my friends smoked, we were polite, observed no smopking policies, stayed away from doors etc to respect non-smokers, never had a problem, never had a dirty look or anything. I've kinda quit now (money/can't find Lucky Strikes in my hometown) but yeah, I think it's the actions of a few are pasted across the board, bin your butts, I can't stand seeing people flick fag ends onto the street within 5 ft of a bin. Christ.
I don't know if any of the other Escapists have noticed it yet. There is a very specific dichotomy between 'smokers' and 'non-smokers', and it's not that one does something the other does not. I however, have noticed that there are 4 types of people on this planet.
1: Smokers: Apparently, these people (including myself) smoke, and are therefore, the devil.
2: Non-smokers: The title says it all. These people do not smoke, and never have.
3: Ex-smokers: These folks don't smoke, but they used to.
4: Reformed smokers: These are the people that used to smoke, don't anymore, and see no problem for vilifying a smoker for smoking, as well as pushing the 'quit' idea until you just want to slap them.
I've also noticed something else. Smokers tend to be some of the most laid back people I've ever met. Until they run out of smokes. When that happens, pray to whatever deity you may hold to that they find one soon.
Keep in mind that I'm a smoker, and have been for years. I'm married, have friends of all types and none of them see a problem with my habit. Just one old man's smoking opinion. Now if you'll excuse me, I must go sharpen my horns. I'm going out today. =)
1: Smokers: Apparently, these people (including myself) smoke, and are therefore, the devil.
2: Non-smokers: The title says it all. These people do not smoke, and never have.
3: Ex-smokers: These folks don't smoke, but they used to.
4: Reformed smokers: These are the people that used to smoke, don't anymore, and see no problem for vilifying a smoker for smoking, as well as pushing the 'quit' idea until you just want to slap them.
I've also noticed something else. Smokers tend to be some of the most laid back people I've ever met. Until they run out of smokes. When that happens, pray to whatever deity you may hold to that they find one soon.
Keep in mind that I'm a smoker, and have been for years. I'm married, have friends of all types and none of them see a problem with my habit. Just one old man's smoking opinion. Now if you'll excuse me, I must go sharpen my horns. I'm going out today. =)
The world is too boring to deny yourself the odd vice. Smoke em if you got em because we'll probably wipe our sorry asses off the phase of the Earth before a four smokes a day man develops any health problems.
In all seriousness, i don't care if you smoke so long as you don't blow it in my face. We all have substances we abuse.
In all seriousness, i don't care if you smoke so long as you don't blow it in my face. We all have substances we abuse.
So long as you follow no smoking policies and are aware of the risks than there is really no reason to view you negatively. Although keep in mind stereotypes are a thing of all groups, and the smoker stereotype is that rude guy who smokes in no smoking areas and tells everyone its his right to smoke there.nbamaniac said:I have always wondered before why people smoke, but I never even looked down on them. That was 2 years ago; now I'm a regular smoker of at least 4 cigs per day. Cigs have this eloquent taste, and because of this I smoke if I'm doing nothing just to remove my boredom (Nothing like a good ole Marlboro to liven up my day). During these 2 years, I have discovered one thing: There are a lot of self-righteous pricks who think lowly of me and our certain category.
Example statement that I overheard just a few days ago:
"Ugh, I don't smoke like him. I'm not an ex-convict."
I turned and looked for the guy (I'm pretty sure from the pitch of the voice) to confront him but didn't find him because either the guy was a ninja or my eyes were broken.
Question: Pretty much what the title says.
Off T: Noticed my join date in the Escapist jumped to 1970.. Glitch?
EDIT: No, I never "smoke people in the face", I consider it rude anyway and don't worry I strictly follow "no Smoking" policies. I'm also pretty much aware that we stink. Yeah I'm a dirty bastard blabla. I'm just disappointed at the fact that people here in our area don't use THESE as their reasons but rather rely on a defective moral crapfest.
And yeah I know the dangers of smoking, I bet even a dog would know that. I'm not that too concerned about my life span though; if I die because of this then so be it. It's not like I lived a miserable life.
EDIT2: To everyone who commented that I'm stupid because I smoke, I thank you from the bottom of my heart. You all changed my life completely. >xD
Lol seriously, no offense taken.
Also as for your specific scenario he might not have been talking about you. From the brief sentence taken out of context it almost sounds like he is a light smoker talking about a guy they know who is a chain smoker.
"Ugh, I don't smoke like him. I'm not an ex-convict."
The like suggests that he smokes, but not to the extent of the "ex-convict".
I'm a smoker with kids and here are two things that I don't do because they bug me alot and as a smoker and a parent I know that there is no reasonable excuse. (Only one of them is parentally related but I felt it was pertinent info).
1. Parents who smoke while pushing the pram/walking hand in hand with the kids. I don't by totally into the "Never let your kids see you smoke" mentality but I can see the smarts with the second hand smoke issue.
When I've had a long day with them I need a smoke and will take the first available opportunity. Those opportunities are when I meet up with friends so they can keep a hand on the kids while I take a position a few meters downwind and light up.
In extreme times I wait till they fall asleep in the pram and then go to a quiet park, put the kids somewhere safe where I can see them/move to them in under half a second and take the aforementioned position.
My kids always take priority and there is no extra puff as soon as they need my attention.
Since I am in the same group as these assholes and I have a perfectly viable solution I am justifiably critical when I see others doing it and I have no problem with anyone who would call a parent/guardian out on it.
2. People who need to smoke right up to the doorway of a building/bus/pram and then exhale their last drag once they are inside.
This is especially annoying on trams when I am with my kids.
My solution, I keep my eyes down the track and plan ahead. My cigarette is extinguished and I have fully exhaled twice before the doors open.
I usually have a 5-10 minute walk at the other end if I need a top-up.
As for people who judge smoking on the morality aspect, morals are personal so they can keep them to themselves.
1. Parents who smoke while pushing the pram/walking hand in hand with the kids. I don't by totally into the "Never let your kids see you smoke" mentality but I can see the smarts with the second hand smoke issue.
When I've had a long day with them I need a smoke and will take the first available opportunity. Those opportunities are when I meet up with friends so they can keep a hand on the kids while I take a position a few meters downwind and light up.
In extreme times I wait till they fall asleep in the pram and then go to a quiet park, put the kids somewhere safe where I can see them/move to them in under half a second and take the aforementioned position.
My kids always take priority and there is no extra puff as soon as they need my attention.
Since I am in the same group as these assholes and I have a perfectly viable solution I am justifiably critical when I see others doing it and I have no problem with anyone who would call a parent/guardian out on it.
2. People who need to smoke right up to the doorway of a building/bus/pram and then exhale their last drag once they are inside.
This is especially annoying on trams when I am with my kids.
My solution, I keep my eyes down the track and plan ahead. My cigarette is extinguished and I have fully exhaled twice before the doors open.
I usually have a 5-10 minute walk at the other end if I need a top-up.
As for people who judge smoking on the morality aspect, morals are personal so they can keep them to themselves.
I will put it as simple as possible.
You smoke. You are an idiot.
Let me explain why.
1.) You STINK.
2.) You LITTER.
3.) You do not respect the health of people around you.
4.) You do not respect YOUR health.
Debate it or not all of these things are true. Now if you were SMART you would quit and tell other smokers to smarten up and do the same.
You smoke. You are an idiot.
Let me explain why.
1.) You STINK.
2.) You LITTER.
3.) You do not respect the health of people around you.
4.) You do not respect YOUR health.
Debate it or not all of these things are true. Now if you were SMART you would quit and tell other smokers to smarten up and do the same.
I never have and never will smoke, I was pretty heavily conditioned against it as a child. That being said I have a fair amount of family members and friends that do smoke and it's rather interesting to see most people who are smokers really don't want to be smokers, it just becomes too hard for them to quit. Do I think they're stupid for choosing to smoke? Yes, but I'm not going to tell them to stop, or make some self-righteous comment evertime they light up, it's there choice to do whatever they wish with their bodies and I'm not going to deride or babysit them over it.
I feel that if you want to smoke thats fine but if you're bothering other people with it then you should try, within reason, to accommodate them. This applies to everything, like if I was in my dorm room blasting music its my responsibility to keep the music down so I dont bother the other residents too much. You are the one who decided to smoke so you should bear the responsibility to not bother others. I dont see whats so hard about that with regards to smoking, its understood for almost everything else.Negatempest said:
Related to that, I hate people who smoke in line, no one around can move because then they'd lose their spot. All I ask is that people be a little considerate of others and everything will work out fine.
I'm sorry but since when does smoking automatically make you stupid? Yes, it's bad for you but that's incredibly presumptuous. Why does enjoying smoking make me any less intelligent?Digikid said:
Your view on this is incredibly narrow minded and to be honest it sounds a lot like some group came to your school and did a song and dance and now you're convinced that all smokers smoke purely to live up to an image or because they're too dumb to understand consequences.
If smoking is legal, I don't care if you do it. I don't smoke, I would rather another vice but I don't think you are a bad person for smoking. I will inevitably type-cast you, but that is just my nature, any label someone has affects their disposition in my brain automatically. If you break the local laws by smoking in places you are not allowed I think less of you, but it is your life not mine. And I think a lot of the smoking laws are lame, even as someone who can't stand the smell of smoke.
I don't smoke because I enjoy living and I intend to do it for a long time. I don't have a problem with smokers as long as they respect my right to clean air and keep their nasty smoke away from me.
I wish I could condescend people who smoke, because it's a terrible thing to do to your body, but too many people I care about smoke for me to do that. However, if you are one of those fucks that sits in front of the door of a public building and creates a cloud of second hand smoke for us asthmatics to walk through just to enter a public building, I hope you die horribly in a fire after being crippled by a bus.