They can tell me that it's a 60% piracy rate all they want but until they provide me with the sales figures on EVERY distribution platform to prove it, I'm not going to take their word for it.TylerC said:
You are killing PC gaming. (Updated)
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This. But yes, people basically stealing games and the developer not getting the money they need because of it is a huge problem. I don't pirate. If I can't afford to buy, I rent, or do without.Ammadessi said:
Luckily I'm a student so I got a student adobe pack which contains loads of different adobe software for £100.The DSM said:
OT: Another of these stupid piracy threads? Get over it already, all the points you have said have been said countless times. I don't pirate games, I like to purchase games legally but I'm not saying piracy isn't sometimes usefull. Piracy doesn't necessarily boost sales or lower them, the people who pirate the games would usually never buy the game anyway unless they're cheap but by pirating they might realise the game is actually pretty good and then either buy the game, or play through the pirated game and buy the game/ buy the sequel, which they never would have done before.
It kind of occurred to me...Deshara said:
Why aren't console gamers pissed off about no mods, custom maps and such? No dedicated servers? You also have to pay MORE money for 1/4 of the product we usually get. Only because you accept the removal of such grand things doesn't mean we have to. Only because you accept being treated like dogs -or more precisely- a pack of lobotomized monkeys, doesn't mean we have to. Seriously they treat you pretty badly and charge you more for a lot less content.
Mods, custom maps, custom models and such are AMAZING things. It's pretty much been the standard of any PC release. It's the way it should be. Developers are also cutting the games down these days and sell parts as "DLC" and people are stupid enough to support this? Seriously they are all bitches. Whatever happened to "more bang for your buck"?
UGC and proper dedicated servers is what makes PC gaming better then console gaming. We'd like to keep the possibility of UGC and we'd love to see console gamers get it to. You'd love it.
Todays gamers are really really weak :/ Either that or apathetic.
People aren't stupid......Kalezian said:
If IW came out and said that the xbox version will have N64 graphics and ONLY have 4 player ad-hoc online because they want it to be consistent with the Nintendo DS version.....you wouldn't care one tiny bit? I mean the DS is the highest selling platform this gen afterall, thats a good business decision right?
In order to appease your customers, developers generally need to adjust to each platforms strength, instead of forcing the strongest platform to mimic that of the weaker platforms.
I have NEVER pirated a PC game.
I mean seriously, PC games are SOOO cheap, why would anybody pirate them it makes no sense. I'm seeing a bargain bin of really great quality games, 3 for £10, 2 for £15, and this is games from less than 2 years ago.
Hell even Batman: Arkham Asylum is retailing for as little as £23 which is such a good price considering the console versions struggle along at 720p, 30fps and 2xAA, while any decent gaming PC will play the game at 1080p, 60fps and 4xAA which REALLY matters considering the detail of the game and how the fighting element really needs faster than 30fps (a la God of War).
Hell they could charge Twice as much and you'd still be gettign a better deal than consoles yet I'm seeing B:AA retailing in stores for £44.99, so PC is legitimately getting it for HALF the price. And on PC almost the entire cut goes to the developers (far less licensing) so I have NOTHING BUT CONTEMPT for people who pirate PC games, especially the ones saving up for another £300 graphics card.
Same with DVDs, you can buy most of the good ones NEW for about £3, I'd only ever pirate a really obscure movie that they won't import for a reasonable price or is heavily censored over here (La Blue Girl... oh the shame). Hell, even Blu-ray movies are going for a good price now.
I have pirated TV shows, but only shows that are not broadcast in the UK and I normally buy the Boxset when it FINALLY comes to the UK, usually about the time when I have to free up some hard drive space.
... also music since it's fukkin bullshit that a song with 40 minutes of audio costs £10, when a new DVD costs £3.
I mean seriously, PC games are SOOO cheap, why would anybody pirate them it makes no sense. I'm seeing a bargain bin of really great quality games, 3 for £10, 2 for £15, and this is games from less than 2 years ago.
Hell even Batman: Arkham Asylum is retailing for as little as £23 which is such a good price considering the console versions struggle along at 720p, 30fps and 2xAA, while any decent gaming PC will play the game at 1080p, 60fps and 4xAA which REALLY matters considering the detail of the game and how the fighting element really needs faster than 30fps (a la God of War).
Hell they could charge Twice as much and you'd still be gettign a better deal than consoles yet I'm seeing B:AA retailing in stores for £44.99, so PC is legitimately getting it for HALF the price. And on PC almost the entire cut goes to the developers (far less licensing) so I have NOTHING BUT CONTEMPT for people who pirate PC games, especially the ones saving up for another £300 graphics card.
Same with DVDs, you can buy most of the good ones NEW for about £3, I'd only ever pirate a really obscure movie that they won't import for a reasonable price or is heavily censored over here (La Blue Girl... oh the shame). Hell, even Blu-ray movies are going for a good price now.
I have pirated TV shows, but only shows that are not broadcast in the UK and I normally buy the Boxset when it FINALLY comes to the UK, usually about the time when I have to free up some hard drive space.
... also music since it's fukkin bullshit that a song with 40 minutes of audio costs £10, when a new DVD costs £3.
That must be absolute bullshit.TylerC said:
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You know what? I will guarantee that it's bullshit.
We pretty much share the same mindset here. Only I don't have to worry about censoring here since it's forbidden.Treblaine said:
Oh yeah.
I am.
It feels...
good.
Especially since noone can stop me except for me.
You see, this is what happens when you even the slightest power to anyone.
And I regret nothing.
I am.
It feels...
good.
Especially since noone can stop me except for me.
You see, this is what happens when you even the slightest power to anyone.
And I regret nothing.
I'm sorry but that is complete and utter bollox it is just as easy to walk out iwth a 360 game under your coat as a PC game and console games are just as easy to pirate.TylerC said:
Where are you getting your information for 60% of gamers using pirate copys as unless I get a link I call that bullshit too.
I'd like to know how these games are surviving on console sales if they were just released for PC they would do fine.
Also removal of dedicated servers will do nothing to stop piracy.
Unreal Tournament 3===Bioshock
Assassins Creed ======Mirror's Edge
Borderlands ==========Street Fighter 4
Resident Evil 5 ========Devil May Cry 4
Dead Space ==========Prince of Persia
Fallout 3 =============Batman: AA
Team Fortress 2 =======Left 4 Dead
Grand Theft Auto 4 ======Race Driver: Grid
F.E.A.R 2 =============Red Faction: Guerrilla
Need For Speed: Shift ===Section 8
[Prototype] ============Risen
^ Current Multiplatform titles^
Assassins Creed 2===Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2
Bioshock 2==========Dead rising 2
Left 4 Dead 2========Colin McRae: Dirt 2
Dragon Age: Origins===Aliens Vs Predator
Crysis 2============Supreme Commander 2
Mafia 2=============Max Payne 3
RAGE==============Deus Ex 3
All Points Bulletin=====Alpha Protocol
Mass Effect 2========Super Street Fighter IV
^ Future Multiplatform titles^
World of Warcraft: Cataclysm====Starcraft 2
Diablo 3====================Guild Wars 2
Dawn of War 2: Chaos Rising===Age of Conan: Rise of the Godslayer
Torchlight==================Star Wars: The Old Republic
Shattered Horizon============Cities XL
^ PC Exclusive titles^
Yep all my fellow PCgamers have sure been bored these past 4 years just waiting for one game to come out on the PC.
PC gamimg isn't dying having a greater number of genres to play is only a good thing.
Assassins Creed ======Mirror's Edge
Borderlands ==========Street Fighter 4
Resident Evil 5 ========Devil May Cry 4
Dead Space ==========Prince of Persia
Fallout 3 =============Batman: AA
Team Fortress 2 =======Left 4 Dead
Grand Theft Auto 4 ======Race Driver: Grid
F.E.A.R 2 =============Red Faction: Guerrilla
Need For Speed: Shift ===Section 8
[Prototype] ============Risen
^ Current Multiplatform titles^
Assassins Creed 2===Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2
Bioshock 2==========Dead rising 2
Left 4 Dead 2========Colin McRae: Dirt 2
Dragon Age: Origins===Aliens Vs Predator
Crysis 2============Supreme Commander 2
Mafia 2=============Max Payne 3
RAGE==============Deus Ex 3
All Points Bulletin=====Alpha Protocol
Mass Effect 2========Super Street Fighter IV
^ Future Multiplatform titles^
World of Warcraft: Cataclysm====Starcraft 2
Diablo 3====================Guild Wars 2
Dawn of War 2: Chaos Rising===Age of Conan: Rise of the Godslayer
Torchlight==================Star Wars: The Old Republic
Shattered Horizon============Cities XL
^ PC Exclusive titles^
Yep all my fellow PCgamers have sure been bored these past 4 years just waiting for one game to come out on the PC.
PC gamimg isn't dying having a greater number of genres to play is only a good thing.
