It's the logic that comes from a game that's all about personal score and not at all about teamwork and team victory. Play some Battlefield and you'll see how it's done - kill gets you 100 points as usual, the person who didn't get the kill gets the credit for the amount of health he took off the enemy he was shooting, so nothing is really stolen. Also, with the mechanics at play (being quick to die and everything), people are usually grateful for finishing their kill because it means there's less chance of them getting killed by the person they were shooting at in turn. Also, with the goal being to win and not to whore the K/D ratio and the score being handed out as frequently for teamwork as it is for kills, it's just not there.Ando85 said:
You stole my kill!
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In WOW this makes me rage because as a rogue there is always one hunter that will tab and get the final shot in on someone that you have been fighting. It's a bit more obvious that someone is about to kill someone there than in a shooter though.
We were playing Magicka the other night trying to get the ice age achievement and my mate kept blowing up the things I had frozen, It was pissing me off big time, but I try not to rage at my friends.
We were playing Magicka the other night trying to get the ice age achievement and my mate kept blowing up the things I had frozen, It was pissing me off big time, but I try not to rage at my friends.
Ahh yes, Kill Stealing... By some practised to perfection of art-like levels.
But then, aside from shooters.. kill stealing in LoL seems to be some kind of crime worthy of capital punishment.
And oh sweet mother of mercy, if you play as a melee support like Leona and you accidently score the last hit on someone because your DPS buddys uber skillshot ZOMFGDAMAGE move wassn't enough to bring it down, prepare for the ultimate shitstorm.
But then, aside from shooters.. kill stealing in LoL seems to be some kind of crime worthy of capital punishment.
And oh sweet mother of mercy, if you play as a melee support like Leona and you accidently score the last hit on someone because your DPS buddys uber skillshot ZOMFGDAMAGE move wassn't enough to bring it down, prepare for the ultimate shitstorm.
And if you're absolutely thrashing them, you're a "tryhard". Oh, come on, (I say,) you've been getting more and more angry and wound up as the game has progressed. Don't try and say you haven't been gunning for me your hardest throughout the match.ExiusXavarus said:
How can you try too hard? I mean... I'd get it if you kept absolutely thrashing a one armed guy at tennis, but really?
It's the same in Gears of War: If you wanted the kill, you should have finished him. They can't shoot at you when they're down in Gears, but they can get revived by a teammate while you're taking your sweet time to reload instead of switching to pistol to finish them off or plodding over to try and get an execution. You don't take your kill, tough shit. It's better for the team that the enemy dies completely and that you don't risk your dumb ass plodding out into the open to go for an execution.tippy2k2 said:
Of course, there are the obvious kill stealers who just follow people around not doing anything until it's kill time and then suddenly they remember how their gun works, but that's in any game.
I've seen this a few times...
I disregard it due to the fact that either I'm doing things to help my team (Via reducing the number of attacking enemies so my team can focus on fewer targets) or I'm just trying to survive and I needed the person I killed to not get another shot off.
In MMO's though it just gets stupid, in battlegrounds (Where it's team vs team deathmatches anyway) when I attack someone to get my teammate to join the rest of the team in the main push quicker I get called a kill stealer. Some idiots also rage at me taking their honour/pvp equivilent resource not realising that it is given out to anyone in the area (Thus honour farming bots in WoW and such)
Really you can just ignore 99% of all talking in random matches online, since it's usually insults given off by idiots.
I disregard it due to the fact that either I'm doing things to help my team (Via reducing the number of attacking enemies so my team can focus on fewer targets) or I'm just trying to survive and I needed the person I killed to not get another shot off.
In MMO's though it just gets stupid, in battlegrounds (Where it's team vs team deathmatches anyway) when I attack someone to get my teammate to join the rest of the team in the main push quicker I get called a kill stealer. Some idiots also rage at me taking their honour/pvp equivilent resource not realising that it is given out to anyone in the area (Thus honour farming bots in WoW and such)
Really you can just ignore 99% of all talking in random matches online, since it's usually insults given off by idiots.
And this is why I avoid playing in pubs with randoms. Any online game I play is on a server that I know the userbase (at least a little) and we play to, you know, play the damned game. Anyone that bitches at me for kill stealing gets a standard, 'that's called an assist, jackass'.
It's not their kill unless it's on the score board.
To be honest if I see someone who is downed in Gears of War or in Second Chance in COD I am still going to kill them. That way they won't be getting back up, or they won't be taking pot shots at me.
To be honest if I see someone who is downed in Gears of War or in Second Chance in COD I am still going to kill them. That way they won't be getting back up, or they won't be taking pot shots at me.
I STILL say that they should make it so that the player that does the most damage to the enemy gets the kill... The Assist should go to the person that did second most damage, and those are the two that get points for the kills (of course you'd still get spot bonuses and so on). Also, if the game allows healing (for example CoDs regenerating health or BFs med packs) then the healing should equally reduce the attack score of those shooting at that induvidual.
So if player 1 gets shot by player 2 and 3 and player 2 does 40% damage while player 3 does 5% damage and player 1 hides to heal, player 2 will still have 35% damage counting towards player 1 when player 3's score for that kill hit's 0%. Of course, as player 1 keeps healing, also player 2's score will be reduced eventually to 0%.
Player 1 gets shot by player 2, 3 and 4. Player 2 does 50%damage and player 3 does 30% damage, while player 4 only does 20% damage. Player 2 gets the kill on his statistic and the points to go with, player 3 gets an assist and points representing the 30% damage he did, while poor old player 4 was too late for the game and gets nothing.
So if player 1 gets shot by player 2 and 3 and player 2 does 40% damage while player 3 does 5% damage and player 1 hides to heal, player 2 will still have 35% damage counting towards player 1 when player 3's score for that kill hit's 0%. Of course, as player 1 keeps healing, also player 2's score will be reduced eventually to 0%.
Player 1 gets shot by player 2, 3 and 4. Player 2 does 50%damage and player 3 does 30% damage, while player 4 only does 20% damage. Player 2 gets the kill on his statistic and the points to go with, player 3 gets an assist and points representing the 30% damage he did, while poor old player 4 was too late for the game and gets nothing.
Yes you can! You just turn around and team kill the whiner.TopazFusion said:
In all seriousness, don't let it get to ya. Some people out there think they're friggin Rambo and deserve all the kills.
Maybe remind them next time that when you "steal" a kill that it ultimately doesn't matter since you're just playin a virtual game that doesn't add up to anything in the real world.
Tell them, "Stop whining battle brother all kills belong to the Emperor!"
Only time stealing kills matters is in DOTA style games. Where individual player get they money for their kills and unless they can keep up with the enemy they are at a disadvantage.
In most other multiplayer games it seems that even if players get cash per kill it does not leave them a huge disadvantage should they not get "enough" kills.
Only time stealing kills matters is in DOTA style games. Where individual player get they money for their kills and unless they can keep up with the enemy they are at a disadvantage.
In most other multiplayer games it seems that even if players get cash per kill it does not leave them a huge disadvantage should they not get "enough" kills.
From experience, the AI are really the only 'other player' that can ever be accused of kill-thievery reliably; they seem bent on killing whatever you are. For example; I'm about to use a shout on that Draugr and; "No you're not!" cries my companion and hits them with an arrow that somehow insta-kills them; shout goes off and misses all possible targets *RAGE*. Then three Draugr Death Overlords appear, alerted by my shout. *MEGA RAGE*Bernzz said:
Well I only really play Battlefield 3 and Team Fortress 2 online so the fact that teamwork is pretty much required means that I tend to avoid things like that. I mean it's not like myself or the other guy on my team won't both be awarded for the assist anyway.
I don't usually openly complain about anything like this, but it can definitely be annoying in certain situations.
If you're about to kill someone and your teammate gets there first, fair enough. If you take off 80-90% of an enemy's health and somebody else gets all the credit for getting the last shot in, it can feel a bit unfair. If a sniper kills someone just as I'm about to 3 times in a row, I just laugh and say "Aw man, go away!
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If you're about to kill someone and your teammate gets there first, fair enough. If you take off 80-90% of an enemy's health and somebody else gets all the credit for getting the last shot in, it can feel a bit unfair. If a sniper kills someone just as I'm about to 3 times in a row, I just laugh and say "Aw man, go away!
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It's a game where the concept itself makes sense, but the reaction you get for it is crazy. And regardless of what everyone will whine about it (and by god, they do), if I'm playing support and an enemy champion is trying to run away while being nuked, I'll dive in and kill it myself. I'd rather you wine with a dead enemy than he walking away with 10 hp.thejackyl said:
In most situations I would say what does it matter who gets the kill? If its a team game then the enemy is dead. However there are circumstances where it can be a bad thing. For example if a teammate deliberately doesn't get involved in fights and then waits till the last minute to pull the trigger. (occurs more in games where it takes awhile to kill the enemy) In that case it is taking it the extreme.
I have played competition in tournaments. It really doesn't matter who gets the kills unless there is a specific person given that role. Yes that does actually exist, In my old 4 man team we all had a role to play. Mine was killing then support, someone else covered the obj and then support. While the other two were focused on support then killing. That meant I had point and had to play very agreesively, It usually meant I got the most kills but died way more often, the other three then mopped up. If someone else did my role then our plan would be messed up, because then they wouldn't be where they are supposed to be. So it really depends on the cituation or circumstances.
I have played competition in tournaments. It really doesn't matter who gets the kills unless there is a specific person given that role. Yes that does actually exist, In my old 4 man team we all had a role to play. Mine was killing then support, someone else covered the obj and then support. While the other two were focused on support then killing. That meant I had point and had to play very agreesively, It usually meant I got the most kills but died way more often, the other three then mopped up. If someone else did my role then our plan would be messed up, because then they wouldn't be where they are supposed to be. So it really depends on the cituation or circumstances.