Your first gun

[Lord Monocle Von Banworthy]

People who own a gun are 4 times more likely to be involved in a serious crime.
Protection my balls.

No shit. That's because criminals acquire guns in order to carry out those serious crimes, and that those in bad areas who are more likely to be targets acquire weapons for protection.

Duh.

The moral of the story is ban guns altogether, bar if you have a license. Problem solved.

Felons in the US are already legally prohibited from owning guns. Many of the most violent cities in the US also have the strictest gun laws. Why then isn't the problem already solved?

Strict gun laws are still gun laws.

Research some statistics about the crime rates per capita in countries with gun restrictions, like Australia, to America, and enlighten yourself.

You're not going to enlighten me, dude. I've read as many stats as you and they're always biased depending on who is reporting them and how they're collected.

Apples and oranges, Australians ain't Americans, the Swiss aren't English, etc. You can't break it down that simply. What you aren't going to do is gather up all the guns in America. They have a constitutional prohibition against retroactive laws. As such, you can't ban guns, then declare that everyone who is in possession of a gun is in violation of the ban and therefore subject to confiscation. It violates their highest legal code. Isn't going to happen.

In my current country there are two types of people who have guns. Police and yakuza. I don't really like that, because it means anybody the yak choose to shoot is absolutely guaranteed to be defenseless.

Take the last word, then PM me though if you want to continue. Sorry I derailed the thread by responding.

 

[chenry]

It was a Super Soaker.
However, If I am to get a real gun (which is rather difficult in Blighty), it will be this deactivated (which is legal in Britain) Lee Enfield No 4 Rifle, as used by British and Commonwealth troops in WW2.

I'm a military historian so it's one of dreams to own something like this. But it would have to be deactivated. A live weapon would terrify me, and kind of go against the whole Pacifism thing.

I have one of those; the real thing too. Missing a buttplate though :/ All I can say is: HEAVY. It is bloody well heavy. And it needs to be, soak up all that .303UK recoil.

 

[sam_savage1393]

The first gun I owned was a Red Rider BB gun. Fantastic...

 

[nabilus13]

1st shot: unnamed .22 when I was 2 1/2
1st bought: .22 revolver, $50, got for cheap plinking
1st bought new: Remington 770 chambered in .308 w/ a bushnell scope. I got that for whitetail deer hunting (I live in WI, USA). The pistol is kept in the safe, the rifle is kept cased with the bolt lock in and the ammunition is locked in the safe (dad's rifles take up all the room in the rifle safe so I keep my gun cased, unloaded and locked.)

 

[Phlopsy]

People who own a gun are 4 times more likely to be involved in a serious crime.
Protection my balls.

No shit. That's because criminals acquire guns in order to carry out those serious crimes, and that those in bad areas who are more likely to be targets acquire weapons for protection.

Duh.

The moral of the story is ban guns altogether, bar if you have a license. Problem solved.

Felons in the US are already legally prohibited from owning guns. Many of the most violent cities in the US also have the strictest gun laws. Why then isn't the problem already solved?

Strict gun laws are still gun laws.

Research some statistics about the crime rates per capita in countries with gun restrictions, like Australia, to America, and enlighten yourself.

We already have a strict gun law against criminals having firearms. And yet they still have them. So under your premise, the criminals would have the guns and the law abiding public would be at their mercy.

Anyway, in order to stay on topic, I think my next acquisition is going to be a WASR AK clone with tac rails for a vertical foregrip and red dot scope.

 

[Ishnuvalok]

Okay, stop listing the pistols in Counter-Strike now.

Last I checked, Counter Strike never had revolvers, or P220's.

It has P220s.

It has a P228, which is a different gun. The P228 is based on the P226, not the P220. Hey, it's a nice gun, don't diss it because it's in CS.

 

[Sky Captanio]

In Ireland we don't need guns. Also we can't buy them.

 

[manaman]

This thread has genuinely upset me. How can so many people have guns?

Sure, you might say, "It's for self defence", but defence from what? Other people with guns? A pretty vicious cycle.

Its all you gun nuts that are killing society.

No.

Legal, responsible gun owners aren't contributing to crimes related to guns. In fact private citizens who own guns handle them more responsibly than most cops.

If guns where illegal, criminals (the ones who are causing the issues) would get them anyway. So you claim that gun owners are hurting society is bullcrap.

All the guns that I own do almost nothing but sit in safes, yes multiple gun safes - there are hundreds of guns. Most of these I inherited, but still they have pretty much been sitting around for somewhere between 5-25 years and I hardly see how this vicious cycle is going on with me and all these guns. From all the talk of the anti-gun crowd on this thread my house should have spontaneously shot itself to the ground by now.

 

[manaman]

It was a Super Soaker.
However, If I am to get a real gun (which is rather difficult in Blighty), it will be this deactivated (which is legal in Britain) Lee Enfield No 4 Rifle, as used by British and Commonwealth troops in WW2.

I'm a military historian so it's one of dreams to own something like this. But it would have to be deactivated. A live weapon would terrify me, and kind of go against the whole Pacifism thing.

You have knives in your kitchen right, but you are not going around and slaughtering people with them? At least I hope not, I would think that would go against a pacifism thing. I fail to see the difference between the gun and the knifes, just never buy the ammo for it if you are worried that the call of the gun might somehow tempt you to load it, point it at someone, and pulled the trigger.

 

[Smagmuck_]

This

Spoiler

It's a Springfield 9mm XD handgun. Hardly any kick to it.
Also, I figured out that if you're aiming like in Call of Duty, ur doin it rong!
Shot off both the target's ears, then clean above his left eye. FEAR ME.
Still have the first two shells and my target, it was a big thing for me

Right, I love that gun. Why?
"Becuase I have nineteen reasons for you not to rob me."
Also, it was fun to go through 38 9mm rounds. That was so fun...

 

[Deviluk]

I have a BB gun that looks just like that. Seriously if its for self-defense get a bigger gun...or samurai sword.

 

[GeneralDefiance]

a .22 rifle then a british army, standard SA-80.

 

[-Saint]

It is a 12 gauge pump. hand crafted (we think no manufacture on it) beautiful wood, the lightest shotgun you have ever held, smooth action, nice rubber butt bad, loads from the bottom

Sounds like an Ithaca m37, great shotgun. Reputed for being the shotgun in almost every resident evil game. Great for defense purposes as the shells eject from the bottom preventing them from bouncing off interior walls. Usually run around 500 usd. Reliable and smooth action make this one of my fav shotguns to shoot, but for hunting I would still stick with a Remington 870 for durability.

Cheers

 

[Ph33nix]

It is a 12 gauge pump. hand crafted (we think no manufacture on it) beautiful wood, the lightest shotgun you have ever held, smooth action, nice rubber butt bad, loads from the bottom

Sounds like an Ithaca m37, great shotgun

it may be it has a clear half egg shape (cut the long way) with a golden colored ducks head on a red background on the bottom side of the grip. i think that, that maybe it after a quick google search but tell me if that symbol is right for ithacas

Edit yes it is a ithaca model 37 featherlight msrp is $860 and worth every penny for its beauty and reliability

 

[-Saint]

Well if it ejects from the bottom like you say then I am almost certain it is an Ithaca, as they are the only manufacturers of a bottom eject system in production today, and it was widely popular as a "trench gun" version in vietnam. As for the desgin, Ithaca hand engraves almost anything into their guns at request. It's standard for them. Check it out at Ithacagun.com or something like that. Ithacas are also known for being fairly lightweight at around 6-7 lbs.

Edit: Great, glad I could help a little.

 

[lonercs]

Guns are hideous things and I'm glad to be able to say never to have touched one.
Thank God they're not that easy to get over here as they are in the States.

I hoped he wasn't from the USA. I am one of the many Americans that do not get a hard on for guns. I'm a swords person myself. Anyway, There are many Americans that are against guns.

 

[lonercs]

Its mainly of self defense, The way society is progressing you don't know when shit will hit the fan.

Thats the reason I think most people have died.

I will never own a gun, no reason to do so, if I get held up at gun point give them want they want by throwing it away from me then run in the other direction.

Better than risking your life by creating a stand off for the sake of a bit of cash.

Thats how I see it anyway, a bit of a hippy stand point but if nobody had weapons the world would be a better place.

Instead were armed to the teeth, each one paranoid the other will attack first and it seems alot of people (especially Americans, how many of your schools have been or nearly shot up?) have itchy trigger fingers.
I was with you up to this point. You crossed the line. Even I have to report this. I hate the idea of reporting people but this is far too much. You do not bring up school shootings to try to prove your racist point of view. In fact you do not bring up school shootings for any point of view. Also not all Americans have "itchy fingers" some of us hate guns.

What's in bold is my words.

 

[lonercs]

Spoiler

This gun! I wants it! Wants it NOW!