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ObsidianJones said:
Stop hating on a person who's been shown to have untreated mental issues.
But the show itself treats him as unassailable in his decision-making, not the victim of brain-damage. Decisions like giving a genetically-engineered genocidal monster a 100% hp-replenishing-sensu-bean right before it fights his teenage son in a battle to the death.

Aside from knocking loose the programming his brain had, I don't think the series actually implies he continues to suffer any lingering effects. Rather my takeaway is that the head injury just allowed his default personality to emerge.
 

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Very specific one that's on my mind: In the anime series Bleach I actually really like the existence of the 'Bount Arc' filler. It's arguably the only time I can think of where a filler arc makes sense. Without it the show goes right from 'Aizen is revealed as villain' to 'Aizen begins epic master-plan that he's apparently been setting up and had ready to go all along' and it stretches some level of credulity. With the Bount Arc in place not only does it give some space to breath and provide a time gap for Aizen to get all the pieces in place to the degree that he has them when the Arrancar arc starts, but it also helps ease the transition in how the Soul Society is cast. In the Invasion Arc they're the enemy force by default, opposing and fighting our heroes. Then the Arrancar Arc starts and they're all on-side as good guys. The Bount Arc gives us a chance to see them as good guys before they're thrown into massive plot arc shenanigans, let's us see them versus another outside enemy and allows them to cooperate with the human heroes before suddenly turning up to work with them out of the blue at the beginning of the Arrancar arc.

I mean I will still usually skip watching it for the sake of time, but it's not inherently bad and I can appreciate it's place.
 
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jademunky said:
ObsidianJones said:
Stop hating on a person who's been shown to have untreated mental issues.
But the show itself treats him as unassailable in his decision-making, not the victim of brain-damage. Decisions like giving a genetically-engineered genocidal monster a 100% hp-replenishing-sensu-bean right before it fights his teenage son in a battle to the death.

Aside from knocking loose the programming his brain had, I don't think the series actually implies he continues to suffer any lingering effects. Rather my takeaway is that the head injury just allowed his default personality to emerge.
To be fair, everyone has those stupid moments in the show. Cell wouldn't be Perfect Cell if Vegeta didn't let his ego run wild and just taken the victory.

Trunks could have killed Cell at any time when he was Semi Perfect, but he held back for fear of upsetting is father.

Krillin is semi excusable, but he had a hard on for a robot woman that he didn't know and wanted to kill his best friend.

Out of everyone, Goku is actually the least selfish. Because of Chichi's raising and the timidness of the boy, Goku realized Gohan would need something to prove to himself that he could take over as the guardian of the earth.

Honestly, I think Goku stepped into the ring first specifically to see Cell's power level. Goku easily realized that Gohan had more than what it took to beat Cell, as shown as when he kicked Cell so hard that he threw up Android 18.

Simply put, Goku knew that if he continued to save the earth, Gohan would never take himself seriously enough to by the hero the world will need.
 

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Ok, let's do this:

[li]MOBAs are white-hot trash[/li]
[li]The original Star Trek series is fucking awful[/li]
[li]Classic Doctor Who isn't much better. In some instances, it's worse. (see: The Candy Man. Yes, that was a thing.)[/li]
[li]Star Trek: TNG has high points, but seems to vary between awesome and terrible on an episode-by-episode basis[/li]
[li]Batman Returns is a shit movie[/li]
[li]Half-Life 2 is a great tech demo. The rest of the game is good, but not "BEST GAEM EVAR" material[/li]
[li]Super Mario Sunshine is terrible[/li]
[li]Pokemon and Kirby are bland and boring[/li]
[li]James Bond is a terrible series[/li]
[li]Toto are an awful band[/li]

Yeah, I bath in pain. But since I am required by Escapist law to have some positive opinions...

[li]Civilization V is a game that I find much better than IV[/li]
[li]The Terminator is the best film in the series[/li]
[li]Sonic 3D Blast is actually pretty fun[/li]
[li]The Saturn is a good system[/li]
[li]Jak & Daxter will always be my favorite PS2 platformer[/li]
[li]Halo: Reach is the best Halo game[/li]
 

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ObsidianJones said:
jademunky said:
ObsidianJones said:
Stop hating on a person who's been shown to have untreated mental issues.
But the show itself treats him as unassailable in his decision-making, not the victim of brain-damage. Decisions like giving a genetically-engineered genocidal monster a 100% hp-replenishing-sensu-bean right before it fights his teenage son in a battle to the death.

Aside from knocking loose the programming his brain had, I don't think the series actually implies he continues to suffer any lingering effects. Rather my takeaway is that the head injury just allowed his default personality to emerge.
To be fair, everyone has those stupid moments in the show. Cell wouldn't be Perfect Cell if Vegeta didn't let his ego run wild and just taken the victory.

Trunks could have killed Cell at any time when he was Semi Perfect, but he held back for fear of upsetting is father.

Krillin is semi excusable, but he had a hard on for a robot woman that he didn't know and wanted to kill his best friend.

Out of everyone, Goku is actually the least selfish. Because of Chichi's raising and the timidness of the boy, Goku realized Gohan would need something to prove to himself that he could take over as the guardian of the earth.

Honestly, I think Goku stepped into the ring first specifically to see Cell's power level. Goku easily realized that Gohan had more than what it took to beat Cell, as shown as when he kicked Cell so hard that he threw up Android 18.

Simply put, Goku knew that if he continued to save the earth, Gohan would never take himself seriously enough to by the hero the world will need.
All that's the reason I don't think Goku is dumb. Ignorant, sure, but not stupid. He's just been getting into "fate of the world" deathmatches every couple of years since he was 12. That's gonna skew your priorities something fierce.

Baring a super basic primer from Master Roshi, dude's never had any kind of actual education. And he still managed to learn to drive.
 

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The prequels are good movies. Not great, but i think they are worthwhile and interesting in their own right, and honestly the original trilogy is placed on way too high a pedestal, even if they are pretty good movies too

Also, George R R Martin is kind of overrated as a writer. A lot of the things he gives other fantasy authors shit for are acutally not only present, but in some cases also prevalent in his own work, and whenever he tries to depict a non-white, non-european culture it ends up being a mess of orientalistic tropes, something that is not at all helped by how close paralells he tries to draw to real history
 

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Metal Gear Solid 2 is a solid game whose pacing is awful and plot is a fucking mess at the end. Raiden is not nearly as bad as he's often said to be and he's a lot more interesting in MGS2 then the walking DEUS EX MACHINA BREAKDANCING CYBORG MURDER MACHINE he became in MGS4.

OTOH, Rose is really, really obnoxious though and the fact she's apparently Raiden's Perfect GF is kind of disturbing.
 

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Ok I am gonna trigger some Westworld fans here, this show is not good. I am dissapointed, I was expecting something interesting but no, I get Blade Runner meets Terminator meets Cowbows and Aliens.

Seriously?! We are doing the whole, "Humans are flawed, Robotic Humans are the futurez." Skynet plot again?!

Honestly this just enforces my belief we should never make Synthetic Humans with self aware A.I.s at all, and I don't care of what value they possess.
 

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Mists of Pandaria was the best time period in World of WarCraft's lifespan, in spite of the stupid pandas.

Alien 3 is a pretty good horror movie. It's not on-par with its predecessors, but it's definitely not deserving of all the crap it gets.

Star Wars would be better if it didn't have the Force or lightsabers. Also, the Y-Wing is cooler than the X-Wing. Big whoop, wanna fight about it?
 

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I honestly believe Star Wars is only beloved because of Episode V (which I can't deny is a good film). If it weren't for Star Wars Episode V, the whole series would be nothing in the modern day; sure, Episode IV would always have it's place in history (it helped revive the Film Industry, which collapsed in the late 60's), but it's nothing special, and people today would apply 'Seinfeld isn't Funny' to the film.
 

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Rangaman said:
[li]The Saturn is a good system[/li]
Liking the Saturn is an unpopular opinion?

OK, it's not as popular as the PS1/N64 or predecessor Genesis/Mega Drive, nor does it have the cult status of the Dreamcast, but it has its fair share of fans. AFAIK, most of the Saturn-related anger is directed at Sega for badly messing up its chances in myriad ways, not so much the console itself.
 
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Don did nothing wrong.

I say this while not thinking I would leave my wife behind (here's hoping my wife would be smarter than this), but it's a wildly held belief that men should literally always be ready to throw his life away at a moment's notice.

I admit, yes, the programming has got to me and I can't shake it. I did dumb things during drive bys that a 10 year old shouldn't think was his responsibility. But I realize how fucking dumb and sexist it is. We train men to be disposable, and the punch of this scene is "Look at this coward, he didn't throw his life away. What a non-male."

And I know there's going to be a ton of people who think "It's not about him throwing his life away, it's about him being with his wife." or "They had a responsibility to the kid"

Well, the wife that didn't value his life or safety at that moment as much as she did for the kid's life and safety. The kid didn't value their lives, either. He knew that he didn't know if he could trust them so he hid. As Husband and Wife, they have a responsibility to each other. This isn't the normal world any more. There isn't peace or civility. There are literal fucking monsters. There's waking up the next day and there's not.

Like they said before they let the child in, they had a responsibility to protect those in that house, and they didn't. I don't think Don is a hero, and I still even admit, my programming makes me still label him a coward. But he's a coward with his head on straight about the new rules of the world. I don't begrudge him that.

And before you think I don't value kids, I do. I also believe that if you can't help yourselves, you can't help anyone. They already had two elderly people to care for and a woman who was unhinged who wouldn't accept the fact that her boyfriend was dead. They were already struggling. All they did was kill the house.
 

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Samtemdo8 said:
Mad Max: Fury Road is not a good movie, and it baffles me this movie was even nominated for an Oscar.
I have to second this one.

I also find myself endlessly puzzled by the popularity of the Nolan Batman films. The first was watchable enough, though nowhere near as good as Burton's, from there they went downhill fairly rapidly.

Likewise, Wonder Woman wasn't all that good. It was watchable enough, but nowhere near as good as the praises it got at release and seems to get ever since. It certainly wasn't a disaster, it was no BvS, but it didn't seem to have much useful to say (at least nothing that wasn't grossly contradictory like "War, Bad!" Says the woman who comes from a warrior culture that apparently does nothing all day save prepare for war and she herself was created solely to kill the god of war, as well as anyone else that happened to get in her way, making her the apparent embodiment of her people's own personal war...) nor did it seem to add much to the mythos.

Ditto for Rogue One. Again, I certainly wouldn't say it was bad, it was competent enough if, by its very nature, predictable, but it didn't strike me as being particularly good, interesting, or adding much of anything to the mythos. Honestly if it wasn't for the Darth Vader scene at the end there -- and even that wasn't as impactful as I expected given all the hoorah about it -- I can't imagine anyone even remembering much about it twenty minutes after leaving the theater.

Then again, I also think that Nickleback, despite the internet's hate boner, is actually pretty good. Not great by any means, but a lot better than the ravening hordes -- most of whom only bah when the rest of the herd does anyway -- give them credit for.
 

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Myria said:
Samtemdo8 said:
Mad Max: Fury Road is not a good movie, and it baffles me this movie was even nominated for an Oscar.
I have to second this one.

I also find myself endlessly puzzled by the popularity of the Nolan Batman films. The first was watchable enough, though nowhere near as good as Burton's, from there they went downhill fairly rapidly.

Likewise, Wonder Woman wasn't all that good. It was watchable enough, but nowhere near as good as the praises it got at release and seems to get ever since. It certainly wasn't a disaster, it was no BvS, but it didn't seem to have much useful to say (at least nothing that wasn't grossly contradictory like "War, Bad!" Says the woman who comes from a warrior culture that apparently does nothing all day save prepare for war and she herself was created solely to kill the god of war, as well as anyone else that happened to get in her way, making her the apparent embodiment of her people's own personal war...) nor did it seem to add much to the mythos.

Ditto for Rogue One. Again, I certainly wouldn't say it was bad, it was competent enough if, by its very nature, predictable, but it didn't strike me as being particularly good, interesting, or adding much of anything to the mythos. Honestly if it wasn't for the Darth Vader scene at the end there -- and even that wasn't as impactful as I expected given all the hoorah about it -- I can't imagine anyone even remembering much about it twenty minutes after leaving the theater.

Then again, I also think that Nickleback, despite the internet's hate boner, is actually pretty good. Not great by any means, but a lot better than the ravening hordes -- most of whom only bah when the rest of the herd does anyway -- give them credit for.
Its mostly because Max is the most purest example of a wooden actor and worse a wooden actor that barely has screentime of his own. Same with the rest of the "good guy" cast. I am most certain that Mel Gibson was a way better Max than whoever this guy was. And the plot felt like a Story where Mad Max was shoehorned in, not a story about Mad Max. You can remove Max and the movie would have been almost the same.

I thought Wonder Woman was average, and you guys all know that don't think BvS was not the worse thing ever (I have read worse comics).

Haven't seen Rogue One, but the protagonist was boring by the looks of her, aswell as the rest of the cast.

Nickleback is just noise for me, something I here as background music in the radios.
 

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Samtemdo8 said:
Mad Max: Fury Road is not a good movie, and it baffles me this movie was even nominated for an Oscar.
...You know, I could write an entire novel's worth if I was to go into all the ways I think this is true.

(In fact, going by all the ranting on the subject I've done, here and elsewhere, I probably have already.)

But to keep a very, very (very) long story short, my basic problem with it - aside from its apparent belief that explosions are an adequate substitute for telling a cohesive, compelling story - is that it seems to have been made under the impression that what made Mad Max 2/The Road Warrior good was Norma Moriceau's (admittedly amazing) costume designs and the abstract concept of people chasing a truck... as opposed to, you know, the personal journey of the titular character, from lawman to lawless, from someone standing for something bigger than himself to a simple misanthropic wanderer, feeding off others to get through the day, only to eventually discover that no man can in fact be, at the end of the day, an island.
 

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Oh, and to add another to my list of movie puzzlements, the last Spidey movie. Everyone seemed to love it, I just found it... Serviceable.

The whole "Aunt May is sexy" thing passed into the creepzone long before they were done, Tony's on-again/off-again/on-again support was more than a tad inexplicable, and the whole "Spidey means well, but is a klutz" thing got real old real fast (depressingly similar to how Barry "On The Spectrum" Alan was (mis)handled in Justice League), but overall it was decent enough.

It's just that for me personally if it wasn't for the car scene -- an admittedly amazing scene that was mostly carried by Keaton -- I would have pretty much forgotten the movie entirely twenty minutes after it was done.

As with WW and Rogue One, not a bad movie by any stretch, but I'm at a loss as to why it was so near universally praised.