Mad Max: Fury Road is not a good movie, and it baffles me this movie was even nominated for an Oscar.
I have to second this one.Samtemdo8 said:Mad Max: Fury Road is not a good movie, and it baffles me this movie was even nominated for an Oscar.
Its mostly because Max is the most purest example of a wooden actor and worse a wooden actor that barely has screentime of his own. Same with the rest of the "good guy" cast. I am most certain that Mel Gibson was a way better Max than whoever this guy was. And the plot felt like a Story where Mad Max was shoehorned in, not a story about Mad Max. You can remove Max and the movie would have been almost the same.Myria said:I have to second this one.Samtemdo8 said:Mad Max: Fury Road is not a good movie, and it baffles me this movie was even nominated for an Oscar.
I also find myself endlessly puzzled by the popularity of the Nolan Batman films. The first was watchable enough, though nowhere near as good as Burton's, from there they went downhill fairly rapidly.
Likewise, Wonder Woman wasn't all that good. It was watchable enough, but nowhere near as good as the praises it got at release and seems to get ever since. It certainly wasn't a disaster, it was no BvS, but it didn't seem to have much useful to say (at least nothing that wasn't grossly contradictory like "War, Bad!" Says the woman who comes from a warrior culture that apparently does nothing all day save prepare for war and she herself was created solely to kill the god of war, as well as anyone else that happened to get in her way, making her the apparent embodiment of her people's own personal war...) nor did it seem to add much to the mythos.
Ditto for Rogue One. Again, I certainly wouldn't say it was bad, it was competent enough if, by its very nature, predictable, but it didn't strike me as being particularly good, interesting, or adding much of anything to the mythos. Honestly if it wasn't for the Darth Vader scene at the end there -- and even that wasn't as impactful as I expected given all the hoorah about it -- I can't imagine anyone even remembering much about it twenty minutes after leaving the theater.
Then again, I also think that Nickleback, despite the internet's hate boner, is actually pretty good. Not great by any means, but a lot better than the ravening hordes -- most of whom only bah when the rest of the herd does anyway -- give them credit for.
...You know, I could write an entire novel's worth if I was to go into all the ways I think this is true.Samtemdo8 said:Mad Max: Fury Road is not a good movie, and it baffles me this movie was even nominated for an Oscar.
Is this proof that D&D were always mediocre writers and directors?Gethsemani said:Game of Thrones is an atrociously written TV-series and it is becoming more and more apparent that its' writers were saved by being able to draw on Martin's writing in earlier seasons. Once they had to do their own thing, they showed just how mediocre they are and have been consistently taking a shit on the strong foundation the first half of their show created.
Honestly, for all it's flaws, The reason I like Rogue One is that 1.) It actually focuses on someone other then the Jedi and 2.) It's one of the few times we actually get to see the greyer side of the rebellion and not just the "Rebellion Good, Empire Bad" dynamic that almost every entry has that's getting really fucking boring.Myria said:Ditto for Rogue One. Again, I certainly wouldn't say it was bad, it was competent enough if, by its very nature, predictable, but it didn't strike me as being particularly good, interesting, or adding much of anything to the mythos. Honestly if it wasn't for the Darth Vader scene at the end there -- and even that wasn't as impactful as I expected given all the hoorah about it -- I can't imagine anyone even remembering much about it twenty minutes after leaving the theater.
I thought I was the only one that felt this way ... Rogue One is pretty much the only Star Wars thing I can think of that actually tackles mature topics with a mature degree of realism and intellectual curiosity. I mean the whole moral philosophy of Star Wars in general is so fucking babyish that naturally it fucks with everything else in the universe.Dalisclock said:Honestly, for all it's flaws, The reason I like Rogue One is that 1.) It actually focuses on someone other then the Jedi and 2.) It's one of the few times we actually get to see the greyer side of the rebellion and not just the "Rebellion Good, Empire Bad" dynamic that almost every entry has that's getting really fucking boring.
Of all those, When Nines Rolls Over is the only thing that has a thoroughly positive reception, at 9,3 on IMDB. The rest of his work aggregates to slightly over 7. Now, IMDB averages is not the best measure of success, but this is also the man who wrote the train wreck of a plot that was X-Men Origins: Wolverine (which has an inexplicable 6,6 on IMDB) so it sounds about right. When your entire career in movies can be summed up as average, which is what the 7 actually translates too, much as with video games, I think the word Mediocre ("of only average quality, not very good") sums him up nicely.Samtemdo8 said:Is this proof that D&D were always mediocre writers and directors?
David Beinoff's filmography:
25th Hour
Troy
Stay
When Nine Lives Rolls Over (as director)
The Kite Runner
X-Men Origins: Wolverine.
Brothers.
Which should be enough warning signals for anyone to not let the guy become a lead writer for a highly prestigious series with an incredibly developed universe, written by one of the most prolific speculative fiction authors of the last four decades. After one book this guy decided that he was up to the task of adapting the magnum opus of the guy with this [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_R._R._Martin#Bibliography] bibliography.Samtemdo8 said:And D.B. Weiss never had any films at all so Game of Thrones was his debut as a Film/Television writer, although we has in Author of a Book called Lucky Wander Boy:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucky_Wander_Boy
I find that a lot of people are liking the series less and less, especially because of the seemingly mindlessly implemented levels of all kinds of violence later in the series. In short, I agree with you, but suspect that this is not as unpopular an opinion as you think.Gethsemani said:Game of Thrones is an atrociously written TV-series and it is becoming more and more apparent that its' writers were saved by being able to draw on Martin's writing in earlier seasons. Once they had to do their own thing, they showed just how mediocre they are and have been consistently taking a shit on the strong foundation the first half of their show created.
The second is the best but it was carried almost entirely by Heath Ledger's performance as the Joker and would have been unremarkable otherwise. The third was a convoluted, obvious, unholy mess and Bane sounded like Sean Connery huffed a whole cylinder of nitrous. Frankly, fuck Nolan. He's easily the most overrated director working today.Myria said:I also find myself endlessly puzzled by the popularity of the Nolan Batman films. The first was watchable enough, though nowhere near as good as Burton's, from there they went downhill fairly rapidly.
EDIT:bartholen said:I've never understood the almost cult-level worship of the original heavy metal acts such as Metallica, Slayer, Iron Maiden, Dio, Black Sabbath and so on. Yeah, like Godfather or Citizen Kane they were pioneers, but since then others have done everything they did better, and with more skill and passion. Especially the rabid frothing at the mouth for Metallica just annoys me. When did they last make an album that was universally agreed to be even good? The early 90s?
Also, I have hated more Quentin Tarantino movies than I've liked. Kill Bills both 1&2 (more 2 than 1), Death Proof and Inglourious Basterds are all insufferably indulgent, full of themselves, smug, boring film geek wankery. Django Unchained and Reservoir Dogs were both fine, Pulp Fiction I found kinda meh, and I haven't seen Jackie Brown or The Hateful Eight. It just annoys me how everyone and their dog seem to cream and crap themselves simultaneously when he makes a new movie.
I prefer the first 3 Tarantino movies over his more whackier latter ones. Kill Bill Part 2 was the better one.bartholen said:I've never understood the almost cult-level worship of the original heavy metal acts such as Metallica, Slayer, Iron Maiden, Dio, Black Sabbath and so on. Yeah, like Godfather or Citizen Kane they were pioneers, but since then others have done everything they did better, and with more skill and passion. Especially the rabid frothing at the mouth for Metallica just annoys me. When did they last make an album that was universally agreed to be even good? The early 90s?
Also, I have hated more Quentin Tarantino movies than I've liked. Kill Bills both 1&2 (more 2 than 1), Death Proof and Inglourious Basterds are all insufferably indulgent, full of themselves, smug, boring film geek wankery. Django Unchained and Reservoir Dogs were both fine, Pulp Fiction I found kinda meh, and I haven't seen Jackie Brown or The Hateful Eight. It just annoys me how everyone and their dog seem to cream and crap themselves simultaneously when he makes a new movie.
EDIT:Xsjadoblayde said:Dragonball Z has never made sense to me. The appeal. Most things I can kind of understand the reasons why others would enjoy, however adult people who's opinions I would otherwise respect seem to be quite into it, but it's like it's written by little boys who are trying to one-up each other in the playground in a manner that would otherwise be perceived as overcompensating if they were anywhere close enough to puberty to conceive the mere possibility of such insecurities. Was it a kind of US childhood phenomenon that has basically seeded sufficient nostalgic roots in the common psyche to maintain itself throughout adulthood? Or is there some deeper level of storytelling that belies itself to my uncultured unadapted mind?
If you're looking for a good action anime with a focus on strategey, try Hunter X Hunter 2011. Plus it has one of the better power/magic systems in anime.CoCage said:Elise, Dragon Ball Z is one of those stories that age worse with with time. The power level Gap, the useless of upgrades, and gimmicky power ups that don't mean anything by the next season. It doesn't help that a lot of Shonen shows of copy DBZ's worst trends. Hell, it's why I avoid motion and shows. The only shown in Show recently that has gotten my interest is My Hero Academia. And that's because it avoids that usual shown in tropes. shows like it and JoJo's Bizarre Adventure, at least involve some type of strategy. It's more about outwitting your opponent than freaking power levels or buffing up. Even one of my favorite anime, YuYu Hakusho, suffered from power-upitis around the Four Season. Luckily that was the last season and the show knew to end. it doesn't help that even Team Four Star stuff is better than the canon., and they're huge Dragon Ball fans. Akira Toriyama is definitely not a good writer and is known for pulling stuff out of his ass constantly. It's why I would never watch Dragon Ball Super, a glorified fanfic that is somehow worse than GT.Xsjadoblayde said:Dragonball Z has never made sense to me. The appeal. Most things I can kind of understand the reasons why others would enjoy, however adult people who's opinions I would otherwise respect seem to be quite into it, but it's like it's written by little boys who are trying to one-up each other in the playground in a manner that would otherwise be perceived as overcompensating if they were anywhere close enough to puberty to conceive the mere possibility of such insecurities. Was it a kind of US childhood phenomenon that has basically seeded sufficient nostalgic roots in the common psyche to maintain itself throughout adulthood? Or is there some deeper level of storytelling that belies itself to my uncultured unadapted mind?
That is quite a helpful provision of information, thankyou. That writer's name has come up before I believe in ways that were also not very flattering, now it makes a bit more sense as the pieces fall into place. Still, if it pays the bills for him, there's not much incentive to improve. Was not aware it was part of a larger genre. Kind of assumed it was a solo actCoCage said:Dragon Ball Z is one of those stories that age worse with with time. The power level Gap, the useless of upgrades, and gimmicky power ups that don't mean anything by the next season. It doesn't help that a lot of Shonen shows of copy DBZ's worst trends. Hell, it's why I avoid motion and shows. The only shown in Show recently that has gotten my interest is My Hero Academia. And that's because it avoids that usual shown in tropes. shows like it and JoJo's Bizarre Adventure, at least involve some type of strategy. It's more about outwitting your opponent than freaking power levels or buffing up. Even one of my favorite anime, YuYu Hakusho, suffered from power-upitis around the Four Season. Luckily that was the last season and the show knew to end. it doesn't help that even Team Four Star stuff is better than the canon., and they're huge Dragon Ball fans. Akira Toriyama is definitely not a good writer and is known for pulling stuff out of his ass constantly. It's why I would never watch Dragon Ball Super, a glorified fanfic that is somehow worse than GT.