Portal can be considered exempt from the 'big franchises' remark, chiefly because it isn't big, they are short, fun, simple games without pressure. I have no problem with people enjoying games that are part of franchises, nor do I have a major problem with the production of sequels and a continuous storyline that runs for multiple games.SirBryghtside said:You said that Portal 2 didn't count as GotY, the rest of your post implying that this was because it was a big franchise, and then you went on to say that big franchises don't change anything from game to game. You can understand the confusion, hopefully.Spineyguy said:After reading through my comment several times, I have failed to find that line anywhere.SirBryghtside said:...did you seriously just say that Portal 2 was no different from Portal 1?Spineyguy said:Please can we stop glorifying the big franchises, they don't change anything from game-to-game, so they don't improve, let the stand-alone titles have the spotlight, just for a minute, it's what they deserve.
What I do recall stating is that Valve can be expected to produce good games and thus the fact that Portal 2 was excellent comes as no surprise.
I believe I also wrote that sequels and franchise games should not get Game of the year, this is because they already have a pedigree which stand-alone titles lack, as well as a fanbase and an inflated budget. Portal 2 was sufficiently different from Portal 1 to be considered a game in its own right, but it was not a stand-alone title.
And no, I don't agree with that. I judge a game based on the game, not its history.
Pretty well said there.Spineyguy said:Space Marine for me.
Now before anyone flames me with 'how could you forget Portal 2, Deus Ex and gears of war?' let me clarify.
Valve make good games, that's what they do, that's what we expect from them, deus ex was going to be loved whether it was good or bad, and it wasn't ever going to be bad given its progeny, and Gears 3 already had such a formulaic edge to it that there was no-way it could have been worse than its predecessors.
but Space Marine was unexpected, it came out of nowhere and really surprised everyone. I was all geared up to say 'meh, Gears clone' and put it away, but I did not think for a second that it would be as good as it is. The campaign has a good difficulty curve, it's a decent length, the story is well-written and interesting, the soundtrack is phenomenal and the visuals were good quality as well, add to that the surprisingly solid multiplayer and you have a real contender.
Please can we stop glorifying the big franchises, they don't change anything from game-to-game, so they don't improve, let the stand-alone titles have the spotlight, just for a minute, it's what they deserve.