Your views on Underage Sex?

[krseyffert]

If both parties consent completely than I have no issue with it provided the age difference is within the bounds set up by that equation that I can't recall at the moment.

The thing is that the younger they get the harder it is to be sure that consent is really there, as they might not be in a position to make informed decisions. As a flat limit I'd have to say 14 is what I'd be ok with, 13's a little weird and anything lower leaves me feeling uneasy.

if it's the same equation i'm thinking of, then it's y=x/2 +7
x being the age of the older party, and y being the age of the younger party.

 

[CatsAttackAgain]

As long as those involved understand the risks and consequences then go ahead. Wear a condom and take the pill. Just don't go climbing into any windowless van.

 

[The Gnome King]

What's your view on underage sex, then?
It can be anywhere from sluts going around doing it in the toilets with three people a day, or mature rational 15 year olds (I say 15 as it's close to 16 - legal age here) who have talked about it a lot, and decided that as long as they're very very careful, then it's a good thing, as they believe they're in love.
Do you find both situations to be the same? Both unacceptable as the law is the law, or both fine as it's their lives?
Basically, what do you think on the matter?

Edit: I just saw how this could appear. I'm only asking because we had to sit through an assembly at school on it, and I was wondering about your opinions.

From personal experience, I lost my virginity at age 14 and was having sex quite a bit in high school.

Some of the fondest memories of those days since High School sucked otherwise.

 

[Divine Miss Bee]

i don't believe in it, though i used to. i started at 12 and regretted giving so much of myself away. i was used and used others. i hated myself, and created a stronger taboo against sex in my head-i never saw it as a healthy expression of love until very recently. so when i started seeing my current boyfriend, we did fool around a bit, but i waited until he turned 17 (legal age where we live) to sleep with him.

everyone who says it's the fault of the parents and that people have to deal with the consequences, i get where you're coming from. but education sucks, and it always has. parents, despite having produced children, don't know that much better than anyone else what's "right" about sex. in a perfect world, people would know how to talk about it. but this world is a flawed batch of mistakes, and people keep making the same mistakes. so i think it is good that there are laws. even if people are deterred for legal reasons, it still serves as a deterrent until they are old enough to have put some thought into it.

 

[The-Epicly-Named-Man]

Legal age here is 17, and only the male is charged if two minors have sex.
I agree with the first part, but the second part's bullocks. Not that the law stops underage sex here or that the male isn't the one who coerced the other into it.

 

[2733]

there is a kiddy porn joke here but I'm a better person then that. (well I pretend to be better anyway) Back on topic, I think that anyone younger then 18 is a kid, and most 18 year olds are as well. And, in general, kids shouldn't have sex. I can't stop then and it isn't might right to if I could, but I remember being 16. I was an idiot at 16 and I was the brightest of my group, so kiddys, keep your pants up, as you can always have sex later.

 

[Sethzard]

As long as both of them are consenting then it's fine but I think that abortions should be compulsory before the end of their school career.

 

[Philip Petrunak]

Kids do stupid things. If they're gonna do something stupid, they might as well learn how to do it much safer.

 

[DarklordKyo]

So long as they genuinely love each other, are within a 5 year age range at most, and use protaction, I got no problem with it.

 

[Raika]

It happens all the time and nothing you do or say will stop it from happening all the time. Deal with it.

 

[SenseOfTumour]

The two things I'd get rid of, if I could wave a magic wand, are the crazy pressure guys have (I can't speak for the female side) to lose their virginity, it seems you're supposed to get back up a vagina about 3 minutes after you first fell out of one, and life would be a lot easier if everyone wasn't lying about having got some, and making everyone feel like they're the only one lying about getting some.

Secondly is the ridiculous amount of 'pedo' nonsense around someone having sex with a 15 year old. Sure, Berlusconi should be checked out if he's been banging teenagers at 70+, but two people in a relationship, the male shouldn't end up on a lifetime sex register and criminal record, just because they didn't want to hold out for an arbitrary birthday to pass by.

I do agree with an age limit between 16-18 however, as while it's irrelevant to maturity and unenforcable in the main, it at least provides a line in the sand to aim for.

 

[6037084]

We'll I'm going to have to go with my country's laws here and say that 14+ is fine

 

[steevee]

I find the age of consent law rather arbitrary. I understand the need for it, but at the same time it needs to be flexible. I think down to 14 there is room for manouvre. Bearing in mind factors like maturity, age of partner, whether any harm is caused and so on. Because I think we all know an 18 year old that is too immature for sex, and we probably all know someone who lost it at 14 and shows no signs of massive mental trauma. It's a very individual thing.

 

[Robert Ewing]

I hate it when people claim that 13-14-15 year olds know nothing about sex. That's bullshit, I did it perfectly fine. So shit off.

I knew exactly what to do, what safety measures to take, what it would mean for the relationship, and how to ration it so it didn't control the relationship.

I did all of this at 14 years old, and I know for a fact, that most adults can't do any of that for shit.

Some adults are just as stupid as children in this respect, I find underage sex is ultimately fine. It is illegal to have sex 'underage,' but it cannot be enforced. Especially here in Britain, where the enforcing of this law is... well, non-existent. So it has to be regulated, which I am totally fine with. Condoms, and the pill are talked about extensively in schools, which is good stuff.

People are going to become sexually active at different times, and some people are going to engage in sex a tad younger than the law allows. At this point, you need to tell the young ones to take proper precautions, to stop the flow of babies. As long as there is no baby in the picture, underage sex is fine by me.

But I thoroughly hold the belief that nobody over 18, can have sex with anyone under 16. I think that's a bit off... And it should be off, because its pedophilia.

 

[game-lover]

I see no issue with either honestly.

Sure, I'll consider your example of slutty teens slutty, all right. But hell, they can be a slut if they want to. Either they'll be more popular or their reputation will be trashed and that's on them.

I just think that if teens are careful to some degree, then that's a nice relief. But they're gonna have sex anyway. At least I'm pretty sure.

 

[mentalkitty789]

Quite simply people will not wait until they are 'mature' enough to have sex. The best thing to do is to teach them at a reasonable age, like 13 I guess, and stress the importance of safe sex. The extreme promotion of abstinence is just idiotic to me.
If you really think kids will wait until they are mature enough then you're only fooling yourself. Laws against it will not help, only promote those under the age to lie about it.
To sum it up, kids will not wait, just make sure they know what they're doing. They won't, or plenty won't, 'think things through' so the best thing you can do is just hammer in safe sex.

 

[zehydra]

you're 15 years old, you don't know shit about shit and pull up your pants!

with that said, i have no problems with 13-15 year olds having sex with eachother, as long as there is birth control in the picture, a 17 year old having sex with a 13 year old is just wrong and sort of pedo in a way.
As long as there is a appropriate age difference, age don't matter that much, as of myself; I would not go below the age of 17 (the legal age here is 16).
But sure! experiment with a good friend! that is the easiest way to get over that insecurity.
(Use Birth control pills or Condoms)

I'm gonna play devil's advocate and ask why 15-13 year old sex is ok but 17-13 year old is wrong.

 

[zehydra]

you're 15 years old, you don't know shit about shit and pull up your pants!

with that said, i have no problems with 13-15 year olds having sex with eachother, as long as there is birth control in the picture, a 17 year old having sex with a 13 year old is just wrong and sort of pedo in a way.
As long as there is a appropriate age difference, age don't matter that much, as of myself; I would not go below the age of 17 (the legal age here is 16).
But sure! experiment with a good friend! that is the easiest way to get over that insecurity.
(Use Birth control pills or Condoms)

I'm gonna play devil's advocate and ask why 15-13 year old sex is ok but 17-13 year old is wrong.

15-13 starts to be a problem too, I'd keep it within 1 year.

But clearly there is a maturity difference between the average 17 year old and the average 15 year old, and the spread in maturity and experience between the 17 year old and the 13 year old leaves them in a position where they can easily manipulate the 13 year old.

I'd say you almost got it. It's true, people tend to be manipulated more easily at that young age, but it doesn't have to be from someone who's necessarily older.

Ultimately, if both are equally mature, then it should be no problem, which is what I was getting at originally. Gramzon here said that it's ok if people have sex when they're young and if they're both mature, but why is it wrong for 17-13 if they're both equally mature?

 

[orangeban]

you're 15 years old, you don't know shit about shit and pull up your pants!

with that said, i have no problems with 13-15 year olds having sex with eachother, as long as there is birth control in the picture, a 17 year old having sex with a 13 year old is just wrong and sort of pedo in a way.
As long as there is a appropriate age difference, age don't matter that much, as of myself; I would not go below the age of 17 (the legal age here is 16).
But sure! experiment with a good friend! that is the easiest way to get over that insecurity.
(Use Birth control pills or Condoms)

I'm gonna play devil's advocate and ask why 15-13 year old sex is ok but 17-13 year old is wrong.

15-13 starts to be a problem too, I'd keep it within 1 year.

But clearly there is a maturity difference between the average 17 year old and the average 15 year old, and the spread in maturity and experience between the 17 year old and the 13 year old leaves them in a position where they can easily manipulate the 13 year old.

I'd say you almost got it. It's true, people tend to be manipulated more easily at that young age, but it doesn't have to be from someone who's necessarily older.

Ultimately, if both are equally mature, then it should be no problem, which is what I was getting at originally. Gramzon here said that it's ok if people have sex when they're young and if they're both mature, but why is it wrong for 17-13 if they're both equally mature?

The thing is, a court can't prove "maturity" it can only prove things that are hard facts. Like age.

 

[floobie]

Age and mental maturity are quite separate. My being "OK" with it depends much more on mental maturity than age. There are 30 year olds who, I think, don't have sufficient mental maturity to be having sex. Conversely, there are 13 year olds who likely do.

I realize the law can't really work with that. I think 14 is a reasonable cut-off. Certainly not perfect, though.