YouTube Issued Copyright Claims Against Miracle of Sound

[Not Matt]

actually, i kinda get it. one of my first thought when i heard about Google's newest attempt to un-fun-itize Youtube, most of the stuff on the escapist is stock footage and mostly audio focused. The jimquisition, big picture, miracle of sound, escape to the movies, unskippable...
Mostly just listening to someone using their voice. And even though most of it is either for journalistic purposes or review, we need to remember that the youtube staff are ... sadists.

 

[Fijiman]

I believe I have an almost appropriate image for this situation.

Spoiler

Now just multiply that image about a hundred time and it would be more appropriate. Seriously Google, you wanted YouTube and now you have it. That doesn't mean you get to do this shit and act as if nothing is wrong. FIX IT.

 

[Daniel Lowery]

Gavin "Miracle of Sound" Dunne woke up one morning to discover he'd been plagiarizing content from... Gav "Miracle of Sound" Dunne.
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[immortalfrieza]

I dont know if this has been brought up, but cant you, and those who you have given permission to use your music, file a lawsuit against the retards at Indmusic and Tunecore for theft?

That is really what they are doing, they are stealing your money and the money of people you have authorized to use your music. And it really does seem like Indmusic is flat out stealing if they flagged your videos, for you, so that they can take 20% of your income...

Unlikely, Tunecore and Indmusic would just point the finger at Google and never admit their wrongdoing for allowing this to happen, while Google will do pretty much the same thing and is pretty much untouchable anyway.
The reasons that Google is getting away with this crap is:

1. They are too big and powerful to have any reason to give a rat's ass about some guy putting a lawsuit on them.

2. The legal fees are barely a blip to Google while it would probably bankrupt most all of the content creators who actually bother to take them to court, and they'll probably lose to Google's better funded legal team anyway.

3. For every 1 person who wises up and switches to some other video site, there's 10,000 more idiots who don't know or don't care what Google is doing. This is a problem in all industries.

4. Google and Youtube are pretty much the only game of note out there anyway. Google knows this, they know they can do whatever they want to their viewers and there's not a DAMN thing anyone can do about it.

We "the people" are stuck in a pretty inescapable Catch 22, there's not anything any of us and do about what Google is doing and anything we try to do would in all likelyhood make things worse.

 

[Andrew_C]

I wonder if Google is going to get sued collectively by some copyright holders for making life & work more difficult. They're probably going to win the next Worst Company in America though.

The reason Google has this stupid Content ID system is that they did get sued by several of the big corporate copyright holders because of the massive amount of unauthorised stuff that used to be on Youtube. That wasn't enough to satisfy Viacom, though and that case is still ongoing.

 

[blackrave]

So after figuring that it was mistake Gavin received revenue from that time his videos were down?
Right? RIGHT???
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Well, that would make sense.

 

[pspman45]

that bastard, how dare he steal his own work and upload it to YouTube for profit
has he no shame

 

[soren7550]

I dunno, they may have a point. Take a closer look at the picture they use in the article.

On Dunne's sleeve is a patch that says 'HS 29'. Clearly, the 'HS' stands for High School, and from that we can deduce that '29' stands for his year of graduation, 1929, MEANING, that Dunne is either some sort of immortal that steals the bodies of younger men in order to be ever alive and youthful, OR he stole that shirt from an actual High School graduate of the class of '29.

Either way, Dunne is a FRAUD, and that's how he stole his own music.

Clearly that's how it is.

In Ireland we call them secondary schools or post-primary, not high schools.

Then he either stole the body of an American or the shirt of an American. Meaning Dunne is an international deviant fraud.

THE PLOT THICKENS!

 

[CrazyGirl17]

Fucking Youtube, is there nowhere your insidious tentacles won't reach?!? I'm seriously considering a boycott of the site... if not for my crippling Youtube addiction... goddamnit...

Pitchforks! Torches and pitchforks! Get 'em here! Get 'em while they're hot!

(Come on, you know this is coming.)

Gimme some, I have to vent my frustrations somehow!

 

[Roxas1359]

That is really what they are doing, they are stealing your money and the money of people you have authorized to use your music. And it really does seem like Indmusic is flat out stealing if they flagged your videos, for you, so that they can take 20% of your income...

There will be lawsuits filed no doubt as falsely flagging is committing Copyfraud which in itself is illegal. The problem is that in some of these cases the money is being put into foreign accounts which can quickly be closed or relocated making it difficult to track.
But yes, these false claims are grounds for lawsuits for many people, and while I don't know if Gav can sue, other people can and sure as hell will.

 

[lacktheknack]

I hate to say it again, but this is Capitalism's fault... Nah, who am I kidding I like to say it again, it's true!

I really don't think a major Communism advocate is in any place to point out the fairly mild (in comparison) problems that happen when capitalism breaks down. Just saying.

OT: What WOULD it take to get copywrite rewritten for a modern context?

 

[XMark]

Well, OBVIOUSLY Darth Vader heard news that a habitable planet in the Endor system had an abnormally high level of midichlorians in its oceans. He realized that by studying those naturally-occurring midichlorians he could give the empire an edge in their usage of The Force, so he landed on that planet and collected water samples with a couple of jugs, using the filter on one of them to filter out other non-midicholorian contaminants. He did it himself because he didn't trust his underlings to do it correctly.

Also, I'm a robot representing George Lucas and I'm issuing a copyright takedown on this whole thread because of the blatant usage of the image of Darth Vader.

Also, I just said Darth Vader without purchasing the license to that name so I must now self destruct. *BOOM*

 

[Uratoh]

Geez, this is like a schoolyard bully making you punch yourself in the face repeatedly and going 'stop plagiarizing yourself!'

 

[Roxas1359]

snip

Shouldn't you be representing Disney then since George Lucas no longer owns the rights to the plot or characters of the Star Wars universe since he sold them to Disney earlier this year?

OT: What WOULD it take to get copywrite rewritten for a modern context?

Well a start would be that the government in the US would have to favor the consumer over the corporations in court rulings...but the chances of that happening are about as likely as Obama winning a third Presidential term.
So we must go on another alternative, pixie dust lots and lots of pixie dust and wishing. XD

 

[Pebkio]

Leave it to Youtube to launch a system that makes OBAMACARE look competent when it was released.

OOOH! BURN!

Seriously though, this whole thing is a joke and a half. This was all in the guise of... what? Trying to protect artists from pirates? Well, this INDMUSIC is a pirate... company. Youtube would rather support a pirate with an LTD after the name than any single non-company content provider.

 

[Atmos Duality]

Well, all this proves is that Youtube was so quick to bend to big media that they didn't even care who they were hurting or why they were bending. New, old, it's a broken system.

 

[Someone Depressing]

...So, he sued... himself, without knowing it?

This is both the funniest and dumbest thing I've read today. And I'm perfectly ok with that.

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