Zero Punctuation: Batman: Arkham City

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Von Strimmer

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Asehujiko said:
Von Strimmer said:
Enjoyed the little pre-owned dig there. Haven't played the game and never will. Still a good watch though.
You also enjoy scrapping your old car when you get a new one and burning down a house when you move out? Because if not, I'll enjoy calling you a raging hypocrite.
Well someone just flipped his or her shit for no reason. It's an opinion champ, its mine and if you dont like it? Deal with it.

Also cars and houses are not video games.
 

Yeager942

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This is the funniest ZP in a long time. I laughed particularly hard at the catwoman bit.
 

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Yearlongjester said:
when your friend tells you the new game you got is shit, you start to look for all the flaws and stop enjoying the moment.
No what you do is say "It's not as shit as your face" :D
 

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"Don't buy pre-owned?" This from the guy who once flogged Gametraders Robina in his Super Smash Bros. Brawl review [/videos/view/zero-punctuation/35-Super-Smash-Bros-Brawl] (although the Robina store doesn't appear to exist anymore)?

I'm not sure who you talked to, or what distorted world view they managed to slip in your Kool-Aid, but trading in used games is not and never has been a problem.

GameStop, on the other hand, are monumental assholes, and should not be patronized under any circumstances.
 

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I'll buy it new...the GOTY edition in summer 2012 with all the bonuses included. Worst thing about modern gaming...
 

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Yeah they had so much ambition and wanted to cram in so many characters, encounters etc that nothing really gets as much attention as it deserves and while its all magnificent you can't help but wonder how much more incredible it could have been with more focus. Also their is one scarecrow-like moment in the game with another character, but its over too quickly which is lame. I wanted more "get inside bruce waynes head" stuff like that.

Also yeah wayyyy too much riddle stuff this time around. I intend to find and complete all of it on PC in a couple weeks just so I can see what the riddler encounter is like lol.
 
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Anyone else get the feeling that he had a hard time picking flaws? To me it seemed like he was just talking about a few blatantly obvious things that are only occasionally frustrating.

And based on ZP's previous videos...I think that means he really liked this game haha
 

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Mad Hatter is what one might call a sort of replacement scrappy for the lack of Scarecrow, but at least the game doesn't pretend to reboot your console. Some of the puzzle sections had the same problems the first game had - difficult to locate and follow. And why is the A/X button still the Run button?

Still it's very superior to the first one because there's moar gadgets and combat feels... Pretty unchanged, actually. Enemies ragdoll-izing still looks as stupid as ever because of random movements so they almost never grab their heads like they're supposed to, herp derp.

Catwoman's sections were pretty flowbreaking for the story IMO. It's a Batman game, I wanna play as Batman. Catwoman only interests me for cutscene teasing. Plus her differing combat style broke me out of my acquaintance with Batman's combat style so it only got harder to fight enemies because I wasn't used to Catwoman's animations and timing. Speaking of, why do you have to QTE your way up buildings when you pounce when failure or success doesn't even mean anything since you pounce up seemingly automatically anyway?

Still easily a Game of The Year candidate. These two Batman games are the only ones I've seen that really gets you into Batman's psyche and makes you feel like you ARE The Batman. I guess the games have that effect on people who watched The Animated Series as kids, and now the games sort of demystify Batman's supreme intellect and gadgetry.
 

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Something about the line about the Riddler running around with a team of contractors made me laugh pretty hard.
I kind of imagined it. Like all the villians are dividing up terf and fortafying buildings, meanwhile the Riddler and his team are just running around the city just fucking around.

"Hey do you know what the Riddler is up to?"
"No, but I saw him and some people trying to climb a statue earlier. I didn't really want to ask him..."
 

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I am glad for the issues he states because I had them too.
I would say he was more positive about this game than I was which is unusually though.
Bigger really DOES NOT mean better though.

The little bit about wanting to die after reading his last weblog post was a bit jarring and sad. I hope the little guy is holding up well. No noose around his neck or anything.
did somthing happen?
 

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Noelveiga said:
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Since he brought it up...
I understand the plight of game developers these days, but I shouldn't have to feel bad for buying pre-owned. No other industry complains about this sort of thing. I know developers and publishers don't make any money off pre-owned sales (and I REALLY hate GameStop), but the 60 dollar price model is too steep for me. I don't buy games THAT often, and if I have to buy a game used to save a chunk of cash, I will.
Solution? Cut the price! It can't be that hard. Ultimate Marvel vs Capcom 3 will only be 40 USD new. That's a a perfectly reasonable price.
Not true. The music industry tried to block pre-owned sales forever. So did the video industry. And neither of those had as much of a problem with it as the games industry, partially because there was no massive retailer doing it, and partially because they had other sources of income (radio, theatre tickets, TV).

So yeah.

Also, you can buy new games at 30 bucks if you want. A ton of games get their price cut, and Steam will sell you reasonably priced gaming at any given time. You just think that the game that you really want and just came out yesterday is too expensive which, really, makes your plight feel way less reasonable. If 60 bucks is too much you can go buy a number of "humble indie bundles" right now and get 100+ hours of gameplay for as much as you want to play. Just not Arkham City.
I don't use Steam, I buy games by the disk like a lot of people. My point is, I shouldn't have to feel chastised just because I want to be pre-owned to save some cash.
 

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...Did anyone at all pick up on the sliiight inkling that he might have been being just a mite *sarcastic* with the whole 'used games' comment?

and before anyone jumps down my throat, it is not possible to tell, and I doubt he has the desire to explain which is true.
 

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Speaking of unnecessary sequels, isnt The Darkness 2 coming up soon? but that doesnt really bothers me because i am really curious if he actually finished the first game or just the demo only? and why he didnt review the demos of other games back then? It seemed that the game actually isnt that cutscene heavy in the sense that for a few key moments you still control the player in the cutscenes kinda like Half Life does, so i was specting him to mention that and what else could have been improved
 

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DVS BSTrD said:
Glad to hear the Batman sequel was handled capeably.
I'll be picking-up this game soon enough.
Likewise. Its on my list of "games you should probably play because most people can agree that they are good games", up there with Psychonauts and a few of those arcade games released on xblive during the summer.
 

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ewhac said:
"Don't buy pre-owned?" This from the guy who once flogged Gametraders Robina in his Super Smash Bros. Brawl review [/videos/view/zero-punctuation/35-Super-Smash-Bros-Brawl] (although the Robina store doesn't appear to exist anymore)?

I'm not sure who you talked to, or what distorted world view they managed to slip in your Kool-Aid, but trading in used games is not and never has been a problem.

GameStop, on the other hand, are monumental assholes, and should not be patronized under any circumstances.
That was back in 2008, dude. Opinions and stances can change easily in 3 years. Especially with something as turbulent as the video game industry.

O.T. Glad to hear it's on the same level as AA. The few nitpicks Yahtzee had with AA didn't bother me much, and the prospect of flying all around a walled off city as Batman makes up for a lack of structure for someone like me.
 

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Didn't he catch the plot point that Hugo Strange influenced and blackmailed the mayor? Since he's wondering how he can get away with all of this
 

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President Bagel said:
It's always good to buy games new, and help support the developers.
I agree.

I even don't mind disc-locked content that has to be paid for with Microsoft Points because:

a) it is optional

b) were it a download it would take up unnecessary space on the HDD