Zero Punctuation: Battlefield: Bad Company 2
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Sometimes I forget that video games are incredibly serious business. Thank you, random strangers on the Internet, for reminding me.
As far as the review goes, I'm with a lot of the others in saying that, while he didn't review the multiplayer (as he has openly stated that he never does) he didn't really... tell us anything about the game other than there was a lot of dust and things were kind of ridiculous and like every other game of its type in that regard. And as someone who currently can't play online (I have a Mac, no wireless connection to my 360, and a Silver account) I'm infinitely more concerned with the single-player aspect of games, than multiplayer. So, this would have been a beneficial review for me, had I been told anything.
As far as the review goes, I'm with a lot of the others in saying that, while he didn't review the multiplayer (as he has openly stated that he never does) he didn't really... tell us anything about the game other than there was a lot of dust and things were kind of ridiculous and like every other game of its type in that regard. And as someone who currently can't play online (I have a Mac, no wireless connection to my 360, and a Silver account) I'm infinitely more concerned with the single-player aspect of games, than multiplayer. So, this would have been a beneficial review for me, had I been told anything.
omg thanks for pointing out the ridiculous glare, dust and smoke. This game has way too much it. and no its nothing like MW2 other than the progressive unlocks.
I hold a similar opinion. Yahtzee's recent slump into crippling single-playerhood aside, Bad Company and Modern Warfare need to stop being compared.NotVeryOriginal said:
Modern Warfare looks and acts realistic, Bad Company is. Modern Warfare knows what guns are, Bad Company knows how they work. Modern Warfare is less realistic than Bad Company, though that doesn't have to be a bad thing.
People play Modern Warfare for many of the same reasons that one would play Bad Company, but I prefer BC for the subtle differences. Like actual realism as opposed to implied realism, destructible scenery, and vehicles. The small differences draw a very fine line, a line that is not to be blurred.
It sure would.kuposenpai said:
And good news! It only costs five-six times as much as buying a video game!
Math. Do it next time. Thank you.
Good review Yahtzee.
This is why I hate every single shooter being made. None of them appeal in any way because they're all a bunch of ripoffs of a bad genre. :/
This is why I hate every single shooter being made. None of them appeal in any way because they're all a bunch of ripoffs of a bad genre. :/
Boo-hoo. I guess asking for games that bother to put in a single player mode not to half-ass them is too much for them to handle. I mean, it's not like they could release a game that's only based on multiplayer and focus solely on making that good.Abedeus said:
Ah, wait a second. They already did that. It starts with a 'C' and ends in 'ounterstrike.'
Possibly...except that Bad Company plays as if every environment is just recovering from a dustbowl, and every square foot of ground is lightly piled dust just waiting to go flying into the air. That's not how the real world works. You don't replicate the dust cloud from 9/11 every time you blow a hole in a brick wall.Abedeus said:
"Realistic" shooters in general should be thrown into a black hole! Every time I've played a "realistic" game, I've found the inevitable UN-realistic bits all the more glaring. Lets have a game about a kangaroo fighting off space marines with a gun that shoots parsnips (aka rotten carrots) and whose pouch stores not a baby kangaroo but a supply of mines, which when detonated, punch the obnoxious marines into the skybox with boxing gloves made out the heads of other space marines.
Games just take themselves far too seriously nowadays!
Games just take themselves far too seriously nowadays!
Wait, wait, wait.
So, he reviews Borderlands, a game with arcadey damage models where you can carry a ridiculous amount of guns and your health regenerates back to perfection in seconds, and he says it's a pile of rubbish.
Now, he reviews BC2, and he complains that he wishes there was a game where you could carry a ridiculous amount of guns and your health regens in seconds.
It seems like the man is impossible to please. Literally, impossible to please. The videos are amusing, but anyone basing their purchases off of Yahtzee's recommendations is crazy or a total fanboy. BC2 was a fun game, single-player and multi-player. I definitely enjoy the multiplayer more, but the single was a fun experience, and well fleshed-out on its own. Everyone complaining about a multiplayer game that foregoes a good single player game is talking out of their kiester. Both BC2 and MW2 had excellent single-player campaigns that worked very well in addition to stellar multiplayer. If you and you alone say it was bad and tens of millions of players respectfully disagree, I would say you're not the sort of person worth marketing to anyway.
So, he reviews Borderlands, a game with arcadey damage models where you can carry a ridiculous amount of guns and your health regenerates back to perfection in seconds, and he says it's a pile of rubbish.
Now, he reviews BC2, and he complains that he wishes there was a game where you could carry a ridiculous amount of guns and your health regens in seconds.
It seems like the man is impossible to please. Literally, impossible to please. The videos are amusing, but anyone basing their purchases off of Yahtzee's recommendations is crazy or a total fanboy. BC2 was a fun game, single-player and multi-player. I definitely enjoy the multiplayer more, but the single was a fun experience, and well fleshed-out on its own. Everyone complaining about a multiplayer game that foregoes a good single player game is talking out of their kiester. Both BC2 and MW2 had excellent single-player campaigns that worked very well in addition to stellar multiplayer. If you and you alone say it was bad and tens of millions of players respectfully disagree, I would say you're not the sort of person worth marketing to anyway.
He made some good points, like the mortar bits. However, while no where near as funny as the first one, the character relationships are still pretty funny. It might be lacking the brilliant story of chasing a truck of gold while invading a neutral country, fighting Russians, Mercenaries and Serdaristanians, with an egotistical-yet-naive dictator and the mercenary leader who survived the last game but made no appearance in the sequel, it has it's moments.
Also, the Battlefield series has ALWAYS been about multiplayer. While games like COD have a multiplayer network that has more users than Crack cocaine the singleplayer, while ridiculous in the extreme, at least can stand alone.
I wouldn't call Yahtzee narrowminded but... well I would call him narrowminded, actually. Bad Company 2 is all about the multiplayer,which is what Battlefield games are. By just reviewing the singleplayer, which isn't that great, it doesn't give a MULTIPLAYER-DOMINATED game a chance. For once, it would have been beneficial for Yahtzee to brave the hordes of whining kids to actually experience the game as it's supposed to be experienced.
Funny review, regardless.
Also, the Battlefield series has ALWAYS been about multiplayer. While games like COD have a multiplayer network that has more users than Crack cocaine the singleplayer, while ridiculous in the extreme, at least can stand alone.
I wouldn't call Yahtzee narrowminded but... well I would call him narrowminded, actually. Bad Company 2 is all about the multiplayer,which is what Battlefield games are. By just reviewing the singleplayer, which isn't that great, it doesn't give a MULTIPLAYER-DOMINATED game a chance. For once, it would have been beneficial for Yahtzee to brave the hordes of whining kids to actually experience the game as it's supposed to be experienced.
Funny review, regardless.
Actually, no. You usually end up only paying the cost of a video game every time you want to play Nerf guns to replace the darts you lost. Unless, or course, you are playing indoors, in which case you might as well be playing laser tag or, let's not forget, video games.Char-Nobyl said:
Play Nerf guns if you want, I'm not going to bash them or flame you. I just hope you have the cash for that.
So your argument is that "if SP is bad, don't put it in at all"? Quit while you're ahead?Char-Nobyl said:
Battlefield has been a multiplayer-focused game since the beginning. Not reviewing the multiplayer part is like saying "Oh, Team Fortress 2? Crappy game, bots are stupid and it's very hard to play on your own!!! And no tutorials!!"
Possibly...except that Bad Company plays as if every environment is just recovering from a dustbowl, and every square foot of ground is lightly piled dust just waiting to go flying into the air. That's not how the real world works. You don't replicate the dust cloud from 9/11 every time you blow a hole in a brick wall.[/quote]Abedeus said:
Have you played the game at all? I don't think I had to wait more than 10 seconds for the dust to settle.
And you can manage just fine if your recon can spot targets for you... Oh, wait, we're still talking about SP?
That's you. Yahtzee is not really a serious reviewer. He's an entertainer.canadamus_prime said:
Also, you didn't bother to respond to the "no multiplayer review" argument.