Zero Punctuation: Capcom Five

Igor-Rowan

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Darth_Payn said:
Also, I thought Nintendo stuck to cartridges on the N64 and mini-discs for the GameCube because it was supposed to make game piracy harder.
They did, but Sony's marketing turned their system into a glorified DVD player for half the price of one and the Xbox went on to set the standard for online console gaming, so Nintendo's only concern at the time was one thig that led to the GameCube's chain reaction of failure.

Darth_Payn said:
The jokes for them will write themselves.
I remember that time when shovelware was becoming relatively tame compared to the NES days, then these guys come along to bring the worst this industry has to offer: destroying the Wii's reputations, setting (lack of) standards that would later multiply in the mobile market and paving the way for asset flipping, years before Steam's Early access.
 

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I don't remember PN03 being that bad... a bit easy sure, and definitely wouldn't fly in today's market unless it had an oversensitive director who insulted anyone who didn't like the game.
 

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At least Resident Evil remake and Resident Evil 0 remained exclusives for quite a while. At least Capcom tried to put something out on the freaking GC, I have no fondness for Nintendo's own games for that console, except maybe Luigi's Mansion.
 

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The thing about exclusives is, developers like them because it means they only have to learn how to develop for one platform. And if console manufacturers are willing to throw in some free money for it, then why not. Exclusives will only go away when we no longer have separate platforms, which in my opinion cannot happen soon enough. I may have brought this up before, but imagine a world where Betamax and HD-DVD never went away and everyone was expected to own one of each type of player in order to watch every movie. Now imagine instead of just two dueling formats, there are three, plus another that only works on computers and another that only works on portable devices and and and

Sadly, unless capitalism completely ceases to exist and all industries become monopolized and nationalized, the only way we'll ever see an end to the platform wars is if every manufacturer but one goes out of business or they all merge or some other cataclysmic event that would lead to an even less consumer-friendly industry than we have now.
 

Yahtzee Croshaw

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maximalist566 said:
Funny thing is, there is still a Capcom franchise that's pretty much exclusive to Nintendo consoles. That's Ace Attorney - only been out on DS, Wii and 3DS as far as I remember. And it's doing pretty good there. (Yes, I know that there are iPad versions as well, but I don't really count it as a "gaming platform")
You should count it as gaming platforms, the best version of Dual Destinies is the iOS version. And it's not doing all that great. 2 of the games weren't even released here and the mainline series is relegated to eshop only with overpriced DLC. Sales seem to be on a downward trajectory. AA used to be localised into 5 different languages, and now we only get English.

I honestly wouldn't be surprised if they started porting the newer AA games to PC and Consoles. They don't really have an excuse now that the series if fully 3D. Would be a lot smarter for the series to branch out. Worked out pretty well for Danganronpa, and those games suck. Might even result in enough extra scratch for them to localise Great Ace Attorney. It sucks that they just announced the sequel, and we didn't even get the first one.
 

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The best version of RE4 was still on the Wii. Aiming with the wiimote is just so damn natural compared to the massive awkwardness that is thumbstick controlled crosshairs
 

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Tune in to next week's Let's Drown Out Lawn Clippings and Dead Wasps Simulator as featured on The Best of Steam Greenlight.

Capcom may not be the juggernaut it used to be, but it is still relevant and cashes in on its IPs and nostalgia in a way that is not quite denigrating. Not yet anyway. Apart from quietly euthanizing the Mega Man multiverse which is their biggest wtf move for many to date.

Team Ico is probably the least relevant dev team I can think of that are technically still making a game.

Konami is like someone who decided to treat their advanced rabies by getting high on bath salts, and that is AFTER Kojima left with his own abberant miasma. I don't even know how to internalize their words and deeds as coming from sapient life sometimes.

Bizarrely I think Capcom has done a better job of making Zelda games than Nintendo has since Majora's Mask. Maybe they should let them try their hands at Metroid.
 

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bjj hero said:
Im just pissed that the new Streetfighter managed to be PC/Sony only.

Couldnt they back track on that one as well?
I suspect MS was trying to push it to being a UWP exclusive at the time. And Capcom remembered all to well how MS exclusivity paid off last time...

Never say never, but dont expect it before SF5 gets a title update. If it gets a title update.
 

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I really dislike the "exclusivity is anti consumerism" opinion, actual competition between consoles can make them invest in better games rather than the current trend of making mediocre games because people will buy them for brand name. At worst buy another console, god knows people today spend much more money for much stupider things.
 

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Oh capcom, how you've fallen, not as far as Nintendo, but fallen none the less. Actually Rare has fallen farther then both of them, and then there's Sonic... Wow, someone take my childhood outback and put it of it's misery, it shouldn't continue on like a zombie like it has been.
 

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It's nice to hear that jingle again, maybe next time we could look at the failures of Konami, or is that beating a dead horse? Still looking forward to a possible RE4 retro review though.
 

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Johnny Novgorod said:
I'm still holding out for a retro review of RE4. Surprised he hasn't done one already.
That and Hitman: Blood Money. They both have things you can make fun of and stuff that's really good, making them ideal for retro reviews.
 

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Three videos. Three damn videos now he's mentioned Federation Force. Try to tell me he's not pandering to the haters now. In fact this whole video reeks of anti-Nintendo propaganda because he got so much wrong!

1) The Gamecube was hurting in sales because the PS2 had online and the gimmick of a built-in DVD player, two things the Gamecube lacked. If developers were really bitching over the discs, then congrats 3rd Parties, you've proven my point that you have too much freedom and will screw over companies based on essentially nothing.

2) P.N.03 was only reviewed terribly and we all know now not to trust the reviewing media. Yahtzee included.

3) For something called the Capcom 5, it seems Yahtzee spent more time insulting Nintendo. Yeah we're not gonna acknowledge how modern Capcom performed so many heinous acts in the business in recent years and how it crippled them to the point where only Street Fighter, Resident Evil and Dead Rising are the only franchises that they give attention to these days? (Where's my Darkstalkers 4?!)

4) Okay now you're making things up because Brawl not having Mega Man had nothing to do with that. There just wasn't time to implement him. Anyone who believes that rumor needs to take the damn tin foil hat off.

5) Exclusivity is not anti-consumerism. This is PC elitism horse crap if I ever heard it! What is the point of getting a console if you don't have exclusives that you offer that others don't in addition to the 3rd Party stuff? If anything, the mentality of the market today needs to die and we need to go back to what made the 16-bit era great instead.

There's no way around it. This is anti-Nintendo propaganda. If I wanted that, I'd go read the garbage Sean Malstrom spews on that cesspool of a blog of his. Yahtzee is not fit to review Nintendo products anymore. He only cares about Nintendo products that cater to his elitist auteur views and considers the company a virus otherwise. Hence he gets labeled biased. No Yahtzee, you are the virus here.
 

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Canadamus Prime said:
Ironically the Gamecube is one of my favorite consoles.
I used to think the same until I got a Dreamcast.

Speaking of which, I think that's the console that started Capcom's weariness of exclusivity meanwhile the Gamecube was the one that cemented it in. After porting over Dino Crisis, RE2 & 3, and a few of their fighting titles, the Dreamcast became Capcom's home for the next two years with hits like their Capcom VS. series and RE: Code Veronica. And, then to have the console die on them seems to have left a very deep wound that they still very much remember.

By the way, there are two other things I want to mention. One, it's come out that RE7 is PSVR exclusive only for the first year, so "Ha-ha Sony" to put it one way. And, two, the NES images Yahtzee used are images of the NES Mini.
 

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Atratzu said:
Oh capcom, how you've fallen, not as far as Nintendo, but fallen none the less. Actually Rare has fallen farther then both of them, and then there's Sonic... Wow, someone take my childhood outback and put it of it's misery, it shouldn't continue on like a zombie like it has been.
And let the brown sludge and generic muscular white trash protagonists of the modern industry win? I would rather die.
 

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LordTerminal said:
Couples things here: One, the GC failed because NoJ couldn't realize that Nintendo, as a company, wasn't the head of the game industry anymore.

Two, Darkstalkers is just a reskin of Street Fighter.

Three, what about the recent talks of DMC5, the recently releases of Monster Hunter, Ace Attorney, and Strider, and the development of Deep Down?

Four, if they were planning to include him, why is there no random file on the Brawl disc for Mega Man like there is for Mewtwo, Dr. Mario, Dixie Kong, or Toon Sheik(?), or even any talk of possibly including him like there was with Pac-Man?
 

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LordTerminal said:
we got a Nintendo fan boy over here. Just because somebody doesn't suck nintendo's cock, does not equate to anti-nintendo bias. The missing DVD player hurt nintendo, then why didn't they implement that? Not only did nintendo kneecap themselves with third-party support, they couldn't even compete with Sony on what their console could do. Not only did you help yahtzee's point you showed your fanboy colours. You don't think artificially restricting access to what games the consumer can buy is anti-consumer? But a critic pointing out why a console couldn't compete in the market is anti-nintendo bias? The whole smash brothers brawl thing was a rumor as stated in the video. It was not a rumor yahtzee made up. I heard that rumor a long time ago and had to with japan's very petty and fucked up corporate culture. Your entire post is just white knighting for a massive corporation who sees you as nothing more than a wallet with legs.
 

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Also, if there's anything that we can takeaway from PN03, is that it at least partially influenced Vanquish. That alone is enough reason to appreciate it at least a tiny bit.