Zero Punctuation: Demon's Souls

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Ryuk2

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yzzlthtz said:
Ryuk2 said:
It actually sounds fun. I want to be challenged, i like the way they do that ''online'' thing, but why the fuck did they have to release it ONLY on PS3?
Uh...because it's Sony's game.
But why? They could get money by selling games to PC/Xbox owners. Instead people will download those games and run them with emulators. (if it's possible)
 

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OmegaXIII said:
Would Amazon US be my best bet for this or is there a better company for imports?
I ordered mine from
http://www.videogamesplus.ca/

Fast and easy!
 

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great game but i will admit a great review. though he must not have gotten far because there is an online aspect whether you want it there or not. you can invade or be invaded by other players who wish to resurrect. you must then battle the other player to decide who gets to keep the full health bar. though the game has some very big issues. demons souls deserves this torching too. i probably only like it because i grew up on games like this.

keep it up Yahtzee. thats the third enjoyable review in a row. i was worried youd lost it. you had me scared there for a while. you really had some dry spell. but these new ones are much much better. not all lol but still much better than you were doing.
 

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Yeah, this is finally the kind of review that I needed for Demon's Souls. I've had it in my Amazon shopping cart for some time.

Until now I've heard: "it's too hard" or "it's hard but fair." This is the first review that has gone into detail about what makes it hard, such that I can decide whether it is fair (or fun) or not.
 

yzzlthtz

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vivaldiscool said:
I just have one problem with this
He says:
"Nimbly I hoped back as he swung he sword, then he took a step forward and cut my nipples out. Oh, Okay, A dodge move that can't dodge shit. I guess that would make a hard game."

BUT YOU JUST SAID IT DODGED THE FIRST ATTACK! WHAT? DID YOU EXPECT YOU WOULD DODGE EACH AND EVERY ATTACK EVER BY PRESSING IT ONCE? *caps lock is cruse control for cool.

Also, despite the difficulty DS is designed brilliantly. Look up some for the boss fights on youtube, they're amazing.
Then look up karkarov PvP tournaments to see some really fun fights.

This game is all about multiplayer PvP and PvE for me.

Another game element (along with leveling up) that Yahtzee didn't seem to have actually unlocked...not that that would be a priority, since he's often expressed his distaste for multi-player.

Also it sounds like he went right from 1-1 to 1-2. 2-1 is a bit easier....
 

awatkins

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HA cool. I think Suzane Arndt did this one a while back too. Looked very interesting, what with all the dead body meassages. After the last string of 3 or so reviews I was delighted to find that I actualy laughed my ass off at this one. Not that the last reviews where bad, I just found they weren't funny. And if i wanted to watch something that wasnt funny I'd look in a mirror for 4 minutes.
Anyway, the level of trial and error in this game reminds me of I Want To Be The Guy, but more 3d, and PC-ish, and such.
 

Stabby Joe

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This game is still not out in the UK so everything I know and say about Demon Souls (its better to call it that) is based off reviews.

Apparently you're supposed to die to learn since the game isn't cheap, just very very hard. Worst comes to worst you could always use a walkthrough that while defeating the point of playing the game in general will decrease the chance of having a stroke after the 1000th death in an hour.
 

Lucane

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Yeah like few others have said who implied they've actually played the game a bit (No offense Yahtzee but I think if you could of made it to Tower Knight or one of the other Demon bosses your overall approval might of been a lil higher.) It's hard as hell your first time in like anyother game type your not used to before.

Ex: Never played a FPS before? good luck being Top Dog in your 1st round of DeathMatch or never touched a RTS? You'd likely ignore the shiny crystals on the ground and focus on making buildings or troops till you couldn't anymore for an unknown reason.

The best way to think of it is I'd wager is like a fighting game anyone can play but you have to LEARN in order to master it. It seems from what I've seen else where though you'll either dislike the whole thing or tough it out long enough to make the game pay at least for leting the game kill you so often.
 

Fearzone

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The bit about the dodge button: I find this a problem of most button mashers that the opportunity cost of using any sort of defensive button, since you can't be attacking while you have defense up, makes the button mostly useless.
 

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I imagine a lot of defenders of Demon's Souls will come out of the woodwork who find nothing wrong with a game that completely screws you over as they interpret this as it being "hard." You know, the same folks who were defending I Want To Be The guy a week or two ago.
 

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Biek said:
Whats the matter Yahtzee? Too hard for you?

Yurt the silent chieftain laughs at your pain.
I always felt that name sounded like Swedish yoghurt.

During my first play through this game I ONLY used dodging as my defense. I used whatever methods I could in order to keep a distance between me and the enemy. And those first 2 segments are a fucking playground compared to the rest of the game. I'm not a fan of mercilessly hard games either, but Demon's Souls didn't feel unfair, it just felt like a lot of hard yet rewarding work. Except ofcourse if you play new game+. That was just to insanely difficult.

This is still among the top 5 best games of the year for me. I'm glad I imported that son of a *****.
 

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Fearzone said:
Yeah, this is finally the kind of review that I needed for Demon's Souls. I've had it in my Amazon shopping cart for some time.

Until now I've heard: "it's too hard" or "it's hard but fair." This is the first review that has gone into detail about what makes it hard, such that I can decide whether it is fair (or fun) or not.
Emm, here's an FYI: review didn't go into detail at all. For example, there are 3 ways to deal with dragon-on-the-bridge problem. One of them - pis easy. All that review highlighted is that Yantzee sucked and couldn't find any of these ways.
Key: Timed block stops flame. If facing dragon.
 

Jared

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Frequen-Z said:
Must say, I was looking at this game in curiosity until I watched this. Think I'll pass. Super-hard games aren't my thing.
Same here....I like my sanity where it belongs.
 

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BaldursBananaSoap said:
Sorry Yahtzee but you can't nitpick on a game that was designed to be difficult and unforgiving for being too difficult and unforgiving. Play further than the first dungeon and then create a new game. You'll wonder what you thought was so hard about those parts.
Very true.

The key to conquering this game is applied knowledge. Each time you die you gain a little bit of info on the enemies and the surroundings you fight them in.
 

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Goddamn. You just made spit my dinner all over my monitor :)

Yes, this game is THAT hard and then some, but I love it.
 

Lord_Gremlin

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Lucane said:
Yeah like few others have said who implied they've actually played the game a bit (No offense Yahtzee but I think if you could of made it to Tower Knight or one of the other Demon bosses your overall approval might of been a lil higher.) It's hard as hell your first time in like anyother game type your not used to before.

Ex: Never played a FPS before? good luck being Top Dog in your 1st round of DeathMatch or never touched a RTS? You'd likely ignore the shiny crystals on the ground and focus on making buildings or troops till you couldn't anymore for an unknown reason.

The best way to think of it is I'd wager is like a fighting game anyone can play but you have to LEARN in order to master it. It seems from what I've seen else where though you'll either dislike the whole thing or tough it out long enough to make the game pay at least for leting the game kill you so often.
There are two types of gamers. Ones who are able to deal with Tower Knight and ones who unable to get to him. The latter should stick to their Fable 2 and Oblivion. They're piss easy.