Zero Punctuation: Fable 2

[Cinder Block of Oppression]

Please rip into that piece of shit Fallout 3 next.

Edgy dude is edgy.

 

[ultima gears]

i hope he does a review of gears of war 2 or guitar hero world tour next week!

 

[Worm4Life]

Wow. You've got some kind of weird fixation there don't you. Please don't tell me I got to get mods involved in this...

The first resort of someone winning an argument? Pure class.

It's a bald faced LIE to say that the Aquaria guy is in the same position as Peter Molyneux,

I couldn't be lying to make such a comparison, not only because I didn't make the comparison, but because one couldn't lie in this way. One could only be mistaken. And if Allan had compared Derek Yu to Peter Molyneux then yes, he would be mistaken in thinking it be apt. But you didn't ask him make that comparison. He compared Derek Yu to Yahtzee Croshaw, and that comparison is very apt. Please do not alter what he said to make it fit what you'd rather it be.

Hey great you just admitted that what this Aquaria guy does has absolutely no bearing or relation on what someone does with a multi-platform major release, case closed on that. I'd appreciate it if you could provide a new example(you can't).

So now you'd like to distance yourself from the fact that it did take heat?

Haha, what? It certainly wasn't equivalent to the shit storms over console video games.

ROTT and Duke Nukem had right wing citizen groups up in arms, and your right, I thought they brought ROTT to congress, but they didn't.

Woah, right wing groups up in arms? That's how you could tell it is serious.

But that doesn't exactly matter. Jack Thompson never brought a damn thing before congress, he hasn't had a single success regulating video game, and yet he's feared by this generation.

Yeah, it's almost like people are giant alarmist babies.

Being as polite as you're allowing me to be, kid.

Sorry, I was trying to say the text I quoted was childish, not scathing.

Correct. And yet still, in this supposedly more naturally repressive "next gen" environment, Manhunt 2 presents more gore then Fallout.

Did you also boycott Manhunt because Yahtzee told you so, or do you just not know what gore means? A better example would probably be Soldier of Fortune, which is out of the equation because you're murdering turrists, not children.

Just because Artificial Girl is fully rendered now doesn't make it any more controversial now then Custer was then.

If you had anything like either on a modern console, yes, you'd see far more controversy.

Well, I don't know. I don't think the child killing would fit in a game as obnoxiously cheery as Fable. But the point the review was making, of course, was that Molyneux really couldn't claim the game had complete freedom and still fit it within the framework he wanted.

Well you can't rape someone either. Is this a valid point against Assassin's Creed? Is it better to just remove the children like every GTA game? Can anyone claim complete freedom in any game it's claimed in? No of course not, it's a non-point made by a non-reviewer.

And of course, I'd defend the child killing in video games because I defend the first amendment, and find people who don't annoying. Particularly those who are simply to... afraid to.

Defend it, fine. However you lose this whole 'first amendment' angle when you act as if it's something we should expect. If you want to pave new ground for the first amendment you should, but don't decry other people for doing what you never would. If you really gave a shit you'd be out there trying to 'Free Max', but you probably don't even know what I'm talking about.

 

[Firesurge]

honesty yahtzee, this is the noun that inspires our appreciation for you
*nod*

 

[Knight Templar]

Hell even if you do buy Fable 2 Peter isn't geting your money so stop bitching.

Hmm. Are you sure. Because I'd think he would.

Screw you, if you're not going to speek stright or stop dancing around questions I'm through talking to you.

 

[Arcyde]

i hope he does one on either fallout 3, Gears 2, or Mirrors Edge... i think it would be interesting

 

[Ultrajoe]

You can, but why would you want to?

Because you bought the bloody game knowing that's what you were going to get, thats why.

 

[Brett Alex]

If you honestly think he's talking in riddles then he's wasting his time with you, plus make read your posts for grammatical errors before posting otherwise you look like an idiot.

Intentional or not, that was hilarious.

 

[Knight Templar]

If you honestly think he's talking in riddles then he's wasting his time with you, plus make read your posts for grammatical errors before posting otherwise you look like an idiot.

Very funny, because of course a typo is a good way to intelligence.
(No really, that is funny)

Anyway if you are so smart tell me what he ?means?, because he has gone out of his way not to say it. He won?t give a straight answer, I call that talking in riddles and many other people would as well.

But I?m a little confused with ?he's wasting his time with you? It?s pretty clear that?s what?s happening or has nobody explained the internet to you?

 

[Worm4Life]

I think he's being a little too confused by it, definitely.

Though the entire "I don't want to put money into Peter Molyneux's filthy hands" idea is just fallacious. Unless you're talking about him earning more in stocks because of your purchase, or him getting a bonus because of your purchase. Much like with a movie release, everyone who worked on Fable 2 already has been paid.

He doesn't mean anything, because Peter Molyneux won't get his money, he's just trying to justify his non-purchase by personalizing the result. "I won't give (EA/Peter Molyneux/Micro$oft) my money", it's just a way for people to justify their ignorance of a subject under the insinuation that they feel buying a product(educating themselves) would be somehow a violation of their moral beliefs. This is what allows him to talk about Fable 2 in a thread about Fable 2 without ever having played Fable 2.

 

[mike1921]

It would be interesting to put the ability to kill children into the game, but then again why not let you rape people rather than seduce them?

If you get raped than I demand that ability.

Why in the name of arse has this game not been recalled? TWICE

Because, games can be updated on 2 of the 3 consoles.

 

[Tony2077]

i love fable 2 like the review somewhat seen better ah who am i kidding all reviews suck and this just help me to keep saying that

 

[Knight Templar]

Christ start using the PM system to argue, you're not talking about the video anymore.

EDIT: Also personal attacks are never a good thing, the net resoult of this will be a banhammer-ing for all invoved so now would be the time to stop trying to get the last say in.