Zero Punctuation: Hard Reset
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Further point is also that Yahtzee isn't immune to pre-fabricated opinion.CrossLOPER said:Yes, but the point is that they were blue in the game, not brown.CM156 said:Actually, from what I understand, they're not ALL blue. Just a good number of them. But I never really got into 40K.MacNille said:I was also under the imperssion that they were blue too. So wrong i have been.Tarkand said:I was under the distinct impression that the space marines in 'Space Marine' were blue, not brown
He hates game with built in cover/chest high wall - Space Marines didn't have that.
He hates regenerative health - Space Marines didn't have that.
He hates game with bland character design - Every single character in SM is immediatly recognizable for what it's supposed to be because of design and color choices.
He like to run & gun - Space Marines allows this approach, not only that, it favors a mix of close combat and shooting as the only way to stay alive.
He hates brown shooter - Ultramarine are blue, ork are green, the chaos marine were purple, the daemons are red... Many stages had tons of colors and different hues going on.
I mean there's so much brown there, right?
The game is far from perfect of course (I think the 75 it has on meta-critic is pretty accurate. Add 10 points if you're a fan of the ip), and there's plenty of thing to find to hate about it I'm sure, and Yahtzee sure did hate it... but it feels it's mainly because he hates the IP, which he's allowed of course and Yahtzee has never been known for his objectivity... but still, it's rather odd to see a game get so much right from the Yahtzee's 'What make a good game check list' and still earn his vitriol.
I get the impression that Yahtzee plays for the story and the atmosphere and not so much the actual gameplay. How the game actually plays is usually just a small fraction of a ZP vid.Tarkand said:Further point is also that Yahtzee isn't immune to pre-fabricated opinion.CrossLOPER said:Yes, but the point is that they were blue in the game, not brown.CM156 said:Actually, from what I understand, they're not ALL blue. Just a good number of them. But I never really got into 40K.MacNille said:I was also under the imperssion that they were blue too. So wrong i have been.Tarkand said:I was under the distinct impression that the space marines in 'Space Marine' were blue, not brown
He hates game with built in cover - Space Marines didn't have that.
He hates regenerative health - Space Marines didn't have that.
He like to run & gun - Space Marines allows this approach, not only that, it favors a mix of close combat and shooting as the only way to stay alive.
He hates brown shooter - Ultramarine are blue, ork are green, the chaos marine were purple, the daemons are red... Many stages had tons of colors and different hues going on.
[http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/443/warplq.jpg/][http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/94/spacemarineo.jpg/]
I mean there's so much brown there, right?
The game is far from perfect of course (I think the 78 it has on meta-critic is pretty accurate. Add 10 points if you're a fan of the ip), and there's plenty of thing to find to hate about it I'm sure, and Yahtzee sure did hate it... but it feels it's mainly because he hates the IP, which he's allowed of course and Yahtzee has never been known for his objectivity... but still, it's rather odd to see a game get so much right from the Yahtzee's 'What make a good game check list' and still earn his vitriol.
LOL everyone! Ultramarins are Ultramarine!MacNille said:I was also under the imperssion that they were blue too. So wrong i have been.Tarkand said:I was under the distinct impression that the space marines in 'Space Marine' were blue, not brown
I know colors
.Lets ignore the obvious point, now lets mention the primary colors of the Tau and Chaos Space Marines
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Well he nailed it, the game is very much lacking variety, sure it's leaps and bounds above the modern warfare shooters but others still do things better.
As for the plot, I was in "*dropped jaw* what the shit is going on here" mode from the first cutscene on, really can't make out what they were trying to put together.
As for the plot, I was in "*dropped jaw* what the shit is going on here" mode from the first cutscene on, really can't make out what they were trying to put together.
But most importantly, Yahtzee likes pissing off fanboys. And that he did.Tarkand said:Further point is also that Yahtzee isn't immune to pre-fabricated opinion.CrossLOPER said:Yes, but the point is that they were blue in the game, not brown.CM156 said:Actually, from what I understand, they're not ALL blue. Just a good number of them. But I never really got into 40K.MacNille said:I was also under the imperssion that they were blue too. So wrong i have been.Tarkand said:I was under the distinct impression that the space marines in 'Space Marine' were blue, not brown
He hates game with built in cover/chest high wall - Space Marines didn't have that.
He hates regenerative health - Space Marines didn't have that.
He hates game with bland character design - Every single character in SM is immediatly recognizable for what it's supposed to be because of design and color choices.
He like to run & gun - Space Marines allows this approach, not only that, it favors a mix of close combat and shooting as the only way to stay alive.
He hates brown shooter - Ultramarine are blue, ork are green, the chaos marine were purple, the daemons are red... Many stages had tons of colors and different hues going on.
[http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/443/warplq.jpg/][http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/94/spacemarineo.jpg/]
I mean there's so much brown there, right?
The game is far from perfect of course (I think the 75 it has on meta-critic is pretty accurate. Add 10 points if you're a fan of the ip), and there's plenty of thing to find to hate about it I'm sure, and Yahtzee sure did hate it... but it feels it's mainly because he hates the IP, which he's allowed of course and Yahtzee has never been known for his objectivity... but still, it's rather odd to see a game get so much right from the Yahtzee's 'What make a good game check list' and still earn his vitriol.
Shooter Season 2011 is pretty good so far. Lot of interesting titles and interesting takes on all of them. I look forward to seeing how Rage stacks with the rest. Moreover, did Yahtzee get the PC or console or both?
I find it odd that Yahtzee (who often complains about sameness and repetition in AAA games that I enjoy) was actually less bothered by the lack of variety in this game than I was, also I would add to the list of problems with this game the fact that enemies take way to many shots to bring down but aren't actually that threatening so the game ends up losing the frenetic pace that makes games like painkiller awesome, that and the thrice damned slow ass menu screens make me want to tear my hair out
I have a question: Who on earth is that face that Yhatzee keeps uusing over and over again in all his reviews? Like in this one, when he mentions Shooter Season 2011, he has the guy with a bandana on. I'm just curious who this person is.
Also, liked the review.
Also, liked the review.
Finally a review where I mostly agree with Yahtzee again (used to happen a lot, has been happening much less in the last 2 years)
I actually didn't like this game for the simple reason he said, robots just aren't that fun to shoot to be honest.
I actually didn't like this game for the simple reason he said, robots just aren't that fun to shoot to be honest.
He most certainly did yesLobsterFeng said:But most importantly, Yahtzee likes pissing off fanboys. And that he did.Tarkand said:Further point is also that Yahtzee isn't immune to pre-fabricated opinion.CrossLOPER said:Yes, but the point is that they were blue in the game, not brown.CM156 said:Actually, from what I understand, they're not ALL blue. Just a good number of them. But I never really got into 40K.MacNille said:I was also under the imperssion that they were blue too. So wrong i have been.Tarkand said:I was under the distinct impression that the space marines in 'Space Marine' were blue, not brown
He hates game with built in cover/chest high wall - Space Marines didn't have that.
He hates regenerative health - Space Marines didn't have that.
He hates game with bland character design - Every single character in SM is immediatly recognizable for what it's supposed to be because of design and color choices.
He like to run & gun - Space Marines allows this approach, not only that, it favors a mix of close combat and shooting as the only way to stay alive.
He hates brown shooter - Ultramarine are blue, ork are green, the chaos marine were purple, the daemons are red... Many stages had tons of colors and different hues going on.
[http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/443/warplq.jpg/][http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/94/spacemarineo.jpg/]
I mean there's so much brown there, right?
The game is far from perfect of course (I think the 75 it has on meta-critic is pretty accurate. Add 10 points if you're a fan of the ip), and there's plenty of thing to find to hate about it I'm sure, and Yahtzee sure did hate it... but it feels it's mainly because he hates the IP, which he's allowed of course and Yahtzee has never been known for his objectivity... but still, it's rather odd to see a game get so much right from the Yahtzee's 'What make a good game check list' and still earn his vitriol.
.The Extra Punctuation column where he tore into 40k got much more replies than the average EP column.
The portal opens in act 3 and casts a purple/blue light on everything there after. Pretty much any indoor mission also has green-ish/blue-ish hues.poiumty said:You're cherry-picking. Most levels (apart from the very last) were brown and had a brown hue to them, the armor color was faded blue and the orks almost looked brown themselves. The lighting was also brown. It did have other colors, but faded brown was the dominant one.Tarkand said:[http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/443/warplq.jpg/][http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/94/spacemarineo.jpg/]
I mean there's so much brown there, right?
I liked Space Marine because it was just so camp and ridiculous, but it really didn't offer much in the way of innovation.
The fact that you're looking over the shoulder of a blue giant fighting green monster also oughta count for something. Game is certainly a lot more colorful than Gear of Wars 3 or any of the MoW or CoD games, that can't really be denied - I'm not saying it's Viva Pinata colorful mind you, but as far as shooter go, it's certainly in the more colorful half.
I kind of agree with what your saying, but in other cases I think a mod could help improve the life-span, and even the sales of a game. DLC are technically 'mods' for that game to improve the lifespan, but they just have a price-tag associated with them. I didn't care too much for Oblivion when it came out, but a mod got me interested in purchasing that earlier this year. The mod was okay, but it gave me a chance to play Oblivion more to find it a pretty decent game (still no Morrowind, but still a good game).coldalarm said:
"Hard Reset" is a disgraceful game, a piece of caramelized shit wrapped into a packaging made of broken nostalgia. Honestly, the only game that was worse this year is S.P.A.Z., which was a "we were wondering why nobody made games like these anymore so we made our own" piece of crap game (It's our first game! Come on! Like it!).
The problem with HR is that it only pretends to be old-school. Sure it has waves of enemies, a non-regenerating health and secrets scattered around... but it also has an idiotic upgrade system, because every game must have one nowadays, it's probably written in the constitution somewhere. An upgrade system that rewards you if you scout every little corner in search of N.A.N.O., which breaks the flow of the game. An upgrade system that punishes you for making wrong choices like HUD upgrades and not taking the Plasma Mortar upgrades (the only decent starter weapon). It has regenerative shields as well... "Halo" style, because as we all know that game was a pants load of jolly good fun.
HR is the only meaty shooter that has nor blood nor meat in it... Wait, what? (excuse me for using such an outdated cliche). It also features a story that had been slapped on at the last minute, a story that makes no sense whatsoever. Yes, did I mention bad controls? It has that too. Strafing is as slow as a turtle and jumping is as low as maybe twenty centimeters, all of which makes dodging immensely hard and even impossible in the heat of battle, oftentimes too because there is simply no room for dodging. Exploding environment (barrels especially) everywhere that kill you more often than your enemies... And the sprint... the sprint, the sprint that makes you feel as if though you're approaching the speed of light since it can apparently twist the space-time around you, the sprint that always takes too long to activate, the sprint that makes the confusing graphics even more confusing due to the overuse of filters...
I give up, this game is a steaming piece of junk. Games like these make me feel ashamed of being a gamer and a game programmer / game dev to be.
P.S.: Oh, yeah, who's bright idea was it to make two weapons going for five each and NOT JUST MAKE ONE WEAPON GOING FOR TEN!?! Freakin' morons.
The problem with HR is that it only pretends to be old-school. Sure it has waves of enemies, a non-regenerating health and secrets scattered around... but it also has an idiotic upgrade system, because every game must have one nowadays, it's probably written in the constitution somewhere. An upgrade system that rewards you if you scout every little corner in search of N.A.N.O., which breaks the flow of the game. An upgrade system that punishes you for making wrong choices like HUD upgrades and not taking the Plasma Mortar upgrades (the only decent starter weapon). It has regenerative shields as well... "Halo" style, because as we all know that game was a pants load of jolly good fun.
HR is the only meaty shooter that has nor blood nor meat in it... Wait, what? (excuse me for using such an outdated cliche). It also features a story that had been slapped on at the last minute, a story that makes no sense whatsoever. Yes, did I mention bad controls? It has that too. Strafing is as slow as a turtle and jumping is as low as maybe twenty centimeters, all of which makes dodging immensely hard and even impossible in the heat of battle, oftentimes too because there is simply no room for dodging. Exploding environment (barrels especially) everywhere that kill you more often than your enemies... And the sprint... the sprint, the sprint that makes you feel as if though you're approaching the speed of light since it can apparently twist the space-time around you, the sprint that always takes too long to activate, the sprint that makes the confusing graphics even more confusing due to the overuse of filters...
I give up, this game is a steaming piece of junk. Games like these make me feel ashamed of being a gamer and a game programmer / game dev to be.
P.S.: Oh, yeah, who's bright idea was it to make two weapons going for five each and NOT JUST MAKE ONE WEAPON GOING FOR TEN!?! Freakin' morons.
I'm not denying mods can improve a game (DLC is often an official mod, but as it's rarely counted into a game's review we can ignore it just the same), but if a game sucks without mods then it sucks, and counting mods into the review stops it being an accurate portrayal of what that game is.Voltano said:
If it was, say, a GotY/Complete edition being reviewed, DLC would count into it. An example would be DA:O's Ultimate Edition, and a reviewer could mention that the Feastday items completely destroy the reputation system with your companions.