Griffolion said:
Just a quick question about the whole not liking the current console generation due to lack of backwards compatibility thing. Were people really prepared to pay the likely $600 - $800 for one that did have native backwards compatibility?
I sure wasn't. Even if they offered a BC PS4, I'd have bought the non BC one and just kept my PS3. Like I already did.
BC is nice to go on about a the start of a new generation, but once it gets going and the library for actual games on that new console gets going, nobody tends to care anymore. I think Nintendo did it right with the Wii, actually. Have it for a while and then as time goes on and nobody cares anymore (and any new purchasers are finally diving in for the library of Wii games, not to play GameCube games), drop it to cut costs.
Hutzpah Chicken said:
What happened to Spunk-gargle-wee-wee? It's a very good phrase to sum up things.
What happened to a derogatory phrase used to describe "realistic" modern military shooters? It probably stayed home today because Killzone is neither "realistic" or modern.
Sniper Team 4 said:
I'm just wondering, but am I the only person who think that the Helghast are actually bad guys? Okay, yes, they got the short end of the stick. No, that wasn't fair that the ISA pulled such a dick move. Germany also got the short end of the stick at the end of World War I, yet I don't see anyone going around saying that the Nazis had good reasons to do what they did.
No you are not the only person who thinks the Helghast are actually the bad guys. They are the bad guys and anyone who tries to deny it needs help. Yes, their anger and their desire to get Vekta back is warranted, but the way they go about it makes them evil. Killing innocent civilians of both races (fuck, in Killzone 2 Radec kills one of his own soldiers for a dress code violation). Stealing nuclear weapons and using them on their own civilians. Trying to blow up Earth with future sci-fi nukes.
And the ISA didn't even pull that dick move. The ISA's orders to Sev and his group were to surrender to the Helghast. Obviously a bad move considering what the Helghast would have done, but those were their orders nonetheless. And yes, Sev never intentionally nuked Helghan, he was trying to stop Stahl from blowing up Earth and when the ship full of nukes crashed, it set off a chain reaction with the raw materials still in the planet and BOOM.
The ISA certainly aren't white knight 100% good all the time good guys (especially in Shadow Fall, where they changed their name to VSA for some reason that was never explained). But the Helghast are most assuredly 100% the bad guys with absolutely no gray areas at all. Or at least the Helghast military is. They are evil sons of bitches.
SNCommand said:
I thought the ending to Killzone Shadow Fall was rather surprising, yes the main character and the Helghast lady was kinda bland, but I think the ending made up for it
[Spoilers abound]
The player character, a really bland space marine like most killzone protagonists, reach the main villain, and is so close to ending the war before it has really begun. But, just as he's about to take the villain into custody the villain gets executed, and you get shot as well, dropping to the ground. You then see your mentor and surrogate father appear, deciding to use the situation to start a war and wipe out the helghast once and for all, his hatred so great he doesn't hesitate to execute the person he viewed as a son
The player character is then dead, but the game doesn't end there, you then end the game as Echo, real name is Maya Visari, granddaughter of Scolar Visari, the man who started the original war. You then end the game by assassinating the man who killed the player character, avenging the man who tried to prevent the war at all cost, but by avenging him kickstarting the war.
Actually, that's why I found the ending to be absolutely shit. "I raised you like a son. But I'm racist as hell and since you don't agree with me that we should kill a whole shitload of innocent civilians, fuck you, you die."
Terrible, terrible,
terrible writing.
At least the multiplayer is good and helps make up for it.