- Jun 6, 2008
Halo 2 had the player character holding the same weapon in cutscenes as he was in the preceding gameplay.
Holy shit I'm not actually the only person who played it? Too bad I hated it though...Boris Goodenough said:And here I thought Requiem: Avenging Angel was the first game to introduce "bullet time".
He wasn't such a whiny little ***** in MP1 and MP2. I think that Rockstar completely missed the point of his character in MP3. Yahtzee has a point when he says it's depressing. All of a sudden Max more miserable than ever and he's drowning in self-pity. And how many years have passed since MP2? It doesn't compute! He's not even remotely interesting in this one. He's quite annoying actually. I don't understand why he's doing any of the stuff in this game. It would make more sense in his current state of mind to just say "fuck it" and go someplace nice instead of feeling sorry for himself in a middle of a gunfight. Gameplay is amazing, story is not. Probably the weakest one Rockstar made thus far.JokerboyJordan said:Totally agree with the lack of a likeable character in Max, I honestly didn't understand his appeal in the previous games. He's such an emo wanker.
There is a thing called "moving on" and he did just that in MP2. Really, from what I've seen and heard so far, the character development of Max Payne has been completely disregarded to make this cash-cow of a game.KiKiweaky said:
What are you talking about, at least MP3 suceeds at this compared to other games. It is mature and serious and just as playable as the old ones. The whole tone is a bit different but it`s still Max Payne. Since the focus is more on Max and his inner struggle i care even more about him. The humor is a bit toned down but it`s still there.CaptainOctopus said:Another game fallen victim to the "-We must make more 'mature' and 'serious' titles!" bullshit trend we seen far too often the last couple of years. Max Payne 1 & 2 had not only great gameplay but also for its time a fantastic story and atmosphere. A gritty neo-noir mixed with excellent writing, humor and satire, filled with interesting characters and a protagonist you actually care about.
All of this of course ironically makes the older Max Payne games a lot more mature, memorable and not to mention much more enjoyable than the new game ever could be, even though or perhaps because the old games were kinda silly and didn't take itself too serious.
Extra credit brings this issue up perfectly in their latest episode where they also compare the difference between the old and new Max Payne games. http://penny-arcade.com/patv/episode/hard-boiled
Moving on? You try 'moving on' after your wife and child have been murdered, despite getting the pre pay thingy on steam I never played max payne 2... woops :|mad825 said:There is a thing called "moving on" and he did just that in MP2. Really, from what I've seen and heard so far, the character development of Max Payne has been completely disregarded to make this cash-cow of a game.KiKiweaky said:
No it's more accurate to say that people don't like one dimensional characters like the new Max.NuclearShadow said:I think those who dislike Max's character simply do not like a humanized character. Not every hero has to be a macho brute with no emotions but anger. Max was a common man who was deeply emotionally scarred because of the events that took place, he became a addict and shows true humanity in him. He is flawed and that is his appeal.
The game-play criticism is fair enough but I think Yahtzee was just looking for something to complain about beyond that and targeted the character. He also seems to fail to realize that we are suppose to judge Max in our own way. So whether you find Max to be a tragic character that you sympathize with or one that you think is over emotional and looked down upon, the character worked perfectly as intended. It's a shame to see him express his dislike against the stereotypical macho characters in the past and then position himself against the very opposite of that here.
So in closing, either Yahtzee just needed another complaint and attacked the well developed character or Yahtzee really just doesn't understand the arts.
Erm...okay...KiKiweaky said:Moving on? You try 'moving on' after your wife and child have been murdered.mad825 said:There is a thing called "moving on" and he did just that in MP2. Really, from what I've seen and heard so far, the character development of Max Payne has been completely disregarded to make this cash-cow of a game.KiKiweaky said: