Zero Punctuation: Max Payne 3
- Thread starter Yahtzee Croshaw
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I actually thought it was a more interesting setting, I have seen a million hardboiled cop in new york/new jersey it is kind of rare to fight though these cool glitzy high rises and poor down trodden favellas(although that seems to be becoming a shooter staple).JokerboyJordan said:
Kinda of incorrect as you don't need New York for noir. In fact one of the most notable noir films is Brazil (though is kinda bit sci-fi).Anoni Mus said:
Character wise MP3 is very noir and the noir was first coined to refer to use of lighting in 1920s arthouse films. Also you didn't mention MP1 does that mean you consider MP2 the only noir one of the triology?
Ah. I thought you just spoilered that your employer is also your secret twist-revealed end boss. I didn't listen to the part when Yahtzee said "Okay, this now may be considered a spoiler", so I thought that "employer is enemy" thing you told was exactly the spoiler Yahtzee was about to say.canadamus_prime said:
If that isn't the case: I apologise.
He never mentioned a location?alrekr said:
So why are you drawing how "You don't need New York for noir", It's not about New York, it's about the setting.If i was in some random city during the night i would have no problems with it, but its about random locations in Brazil switching from rich area to poor area and day to night.
Lighting is the most important thing if you want to create a Film Noir game.
Look at Mafia II, game looks fantastic during the night and adds a lot to the immersion and atmosphere of the setting.
Same thing in GTA IV (Needs a bit of changing in Display settings with colors and brightness) looks incredibly Noir-ish during the night, try it while driving around with Fusion FM/JNR/The Journey on the radio.
General quietness in most games help too.
While I agree with most of Yahtzee's vids, and even when i don't still LOL, as someone who recently bought Max 1&2 on Steam to get myself in the mood for Max 3 i have to say if you remember Max 1 he has a VERY good reason for being messed up, he was literally about 10 seconds too late to save his wife and newborn baby, actually hearing the shots that killed them as he ran up the stairs.
Whether or not you think someone could get over that without years of therapy is one thing, accepting that would seriously mess someone up is quite another. I had forgotten how truly cold and vicious the backstory in Max 1 was until I played it again but knowing that just five minutes would have changed your life HAS to mess you up. I know Waylon Jennings ended up in a mental hospital because he flipped a quarter with Buddy holly for a seat on the plane and the thought that if it would have landed tails he'd be dead drove him bonkers, but to have something as trivial as "if you ran that last stop sign your family wouldn't be dead" would have to seriously mess up your mind.
Whether or not you think someone could get over that without years of therapy is one thing, accepting that would seriously mess someone up is quite another. I had forgotten how truly cold and vicious the backstory in Max 1 was until I played it again but knowing that just five minutes would have changed your life HAS to mess you up. I know Waylon Jennings ended up in a mental hospital because he flipped a quarter with Buddy holly for a seat on the plane and the thought that if it would have landed tails he'd be dead drove him bonkers, but to have something as trivial as "if you ran that last stop sign your family wouldn't be dead" would have to seriously mess up your mind.
To me, this seems like Max Payne with a Rockstar coat of paint and I mean both in terms of style, story and gameplay.
Okay firstly I was using New York as an example of generic big city and secondly I already mentioned the importance of lighting; you know when I said thats where the name for the genre comes from. Also the random location change is quite common place in Noir though usually its just office-bar-alley-rooftop with sometimes a casion, mansion or dockyards to break it up.PoweD said:
I have the same problem with the Spiderman movies; he spends half the movies shuffling around moaning how he doesn't want to be spiderman.
The reason for the relentless misery is that Max is an addict, and this is pretty accurate for how addicts tend to look at their life.
The juxtaposition between a mind-blowingly awesome action stunt and the killjoy reaction that vacuums all the fun out of the room, is most likely deliberate.
The juxtaposition between a mind-blowingly awesome action stunt and the killjoy reaction that vacuums all the fun out of the room, is most likely deliberate.