Don't bother, I tried telling Aiddon the same thing and has apparently ignored me and seems to have ignored my previous wall of text pretty much saying the same thing you are.Warachia said:
"It's interactive, etc."
Zero Punctuation: Metroid Other M
- Thread starter Yahtzee Croshaw
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"It's interactive, etc."
Monk Ed said:
Wow, really? That...I mean...wha-
*head explodes*
That's incredibly disappointing. Now I'm curious as to what caused the shift.
The identity of the Assassin "Deleter" was actually told to you, just not directly. MB kills him after Samus leaves the room. If you've played the game you'll know what I'm talking about. the story can get bad at times, but I wasn't distracted by it. I was more concerned with the gameplay than the story and I've run into a few issues with it that it seems nobody bothers to mention. Also, everything that Yahtzee said has been said by someone else already.
I completed the game today, died around 8 times total, 80% collection rate. Deaths were due to the insta kill scenes, 1 death at the Ridley fight and 1 at the end due to poorly implemented forced first person fighting scene.
I actually really enjoyed the game on the whole and the good parts of the game make up for the bad. It's not perfect by any means though.
Another thing, the reason why the one character had to sacrifice himself in order to detach the part of the facility was because the only way to detach it was if the inside of the facility sustained enough internal damage. There was no handy dandy button on a wall somewhere that could have been pressed to detach it safely. The things inside the facility could NOT be defeated by any means that Samus had, she would have been killed.
I completed the game today, died around 8 times total, 80% collection rate. Deaths were due to the insta kill scenes, 1 death at the Ridley fight and 1 at the end due to poorly implemented forced first person fighting scene.
I actually really enjoyed the game on the whole and the good parts of the game make up for the bad. It's not perfect by any means though.
Another thing, the reason why the one character had to sacrifice himself in order to detach the part of the facility was because the only way to detach it was if the inside of the facility sustained enough internal damage. There was no handy dandy button on a wall somewhere that could have been pressed to detach it safely. The things inside the facility could NOT be defeated by any means that Samus had, she would have been killed.
That was my favorite part of the plot, and I thought it was really well done. Initially I just assumed that it was KG, because he was the only one listed as missing and I had forgotten his true fate, (but that's what made him such an excellent red herring). Then I read the answer and reasoning on wikia and was like "Whoa, that makes so much sense!" I love mysteries where the answer is not handed to you, but you know it when you find it.rabidkanid said:
Wholesomely agreed and it was the point Aiddon decided to ignore. The japanesse way of making somebody tridimensial lately is making them an angsty emotional train wreck. I don't know about you, but last time I checked, in the real world you avoid those types of people simply because they annoy you to no end with their ramblings. Like I said, if after 8 years you are still in utter emotional chaos, chances I have no intention of relating to you unless this is a Silent Hill game and you are giving me the ride of my life.Nocturnal Gentleman said:
Also, this works in a JRPG simply because there, the narrative is the whole incentive, you NEED a strong narrative for it to work. An action shoter doesn't have that requirement, here it only makes you move your head in disgust at how 5 seconds ago you were blasting everything to high hell with finishers lack queen badassia only to have it stop, have her exposition and mope for 5 minutes while Adam bitches. A silent protagonist is not a bad thing by a longshot, and if the best you can come up with is the japanesse emo stereotype (because I've seen it enough to see it for what it is, lets stop acting like it had any real thought or depth put into it, 50 bucks say you are a Sasuke fan, or at least were till the series started getting... variable) chances it's how it should remain.
Finally, read the goddamn manga, there you have all the backstory Samus ever needed and it makes sense from an emotional, localization and temporal perspective and fits in quite nicely in the whole narrative. The story of Other M basically decided to jam the whole manga Samus growth story down your throat in a timeline where it doesn't make any sense and that's why its a wreck, she supposedly already went trough most of that when she was a teen.
Why?Vhite said:
And what does "stoped" mean?
Do you like Metroid Other M so much?
Are you really so much of a pansy that you can't take it when someone says that the game is bad, or why didn't you like it?
Even with the Birdie thing, it didn't really make 100% senses to me until the explanation. After that, I was able to piece together situations in the story and understand completely what happened with the Birdie and how one of the team members were killed by it.
Even with the Birdie thing, it didn't really make 100% senses to me until the explanation. After that, I was able to piece together situations in the story and understand completely what happened with the Birdie and how one of the team members were killed by it.
you forgot to add 'and still getting the most money'.se7ensenses said:
Speaking of repeats, isn't it just great how everyone suddenly jumped on the 'gimmick' bandwagon?
Team Ninja, I would like to congratulate you on killing one of the most iconic franchises in video games. It's only been around since, what, the 1980s, and you've managed to bring it all crashing down in one game.
And I would like to thank Mr. Croshaw for helping me decide not to buy this game. Instead, I'll just play Metroid Prime collection and forget that Other M even existed.
and just so you can get an idea of how painful the voice acting is:
And I would like to thank Mr. Croshaw for helping me decide not to buy this game. Instead, I'll just play Metroid Prime collection and forget that Other M even existed.
and just so you can get an idea of how painful the voice acting is:
I searched on the internet and couldn't find anyting official that called it a Choogle. It's just known as "Little Birdie" or Ridley's Larva state. If you have an official website that you got the name from, I'd like to see it.SirBryghtside said:Wait, by birdie do you mean the Choogle?rabidkanid said:
I loved that thing! But Samus called it grotesque... *shakes fist*
1. The story was created by a guy in Nintendo and he was responsible for the bulk of the stories for the metroids as far as I understand it right now, Team Ninja/Tecmo only developed the fighting and actual gameplay mechanics. Also keep in mind that this was CO-developed by Nintendo and Team Ninja. But no, Team Ninja is the new thing in there so lets all blame them even though it was a team effort.Ih8pkmn said:
2. If you are going to dash away the whole series as being ruined by one game when there are many games to choose from in the back cataloge, then NOBODY should ever listen to any opinion you have about games because it's obviously flawed if you think that one game can ruin an entire series of games, that have ranged from bad to excellent in and of themselves, in one shot no matter what your opinion on the game itself is.
Also, so Metroid Prime: Hunters repetitive gameplay, repeating boss's, short levels and underwhelming premise didn't irk your ire so much as to "ruin" the whole franchise, but this one game that actually has, for the majority, very well thought out actual gameplay action sections with it's main major flaw being that Samus talks too much when before she really never said anything says more about you and your faulty opinions than anything actually negative about the game.
For the seemingly innocent Choogle to turn out to be a baby Ridley was one of the better swerves in Other M, so I don't see what's so stupid about it. It's not like it doesn't make sci-fi sense for Ridley to go from a bird-thing to a dinosaur; birds and dinosaurs are related, and Ridley's life stages are a pretty good diagram of dinosaur-to-bird evolution in reverse.
When no one was looking, Lord No u took forty Choogles. He took 40 Choogles. That?s as many as four tens.LordNue said:
And that?s terrible.
VERY detailed post that pretty much picks apart why the story and characters are badly written. [http://www.gamespot.com/wii/action/metroidotherm/show_msgs.php?topic_id=m-1-56305892&pid=960554&page=0]
Kinda interesting read, it's also hilarious how many fans try and defend the characterizations and plot holes and the guy pretty much rips them apart with logic.
Also lead me to this.
Fifteen stupid responses to criticism. [http://plover.net/~bonds/stupidresponses.html]
Bookmarked.
Kinda interesting read, it's also hilarious how many fans try and defend the characterizations and plot holes and the guy pretty much rips them apart with logic.
Also lead me to this.
Fifteen stupid responses to criticism. [http://plover.net/~bonds/stupidresponses.html]
Bookmarked.
Oh wow, talk about spot on. In all the crap about the depictions of Samus, I had completely forgotten or didn't notice all those other complaints.Flamma Man said:
It's true... Absolutely nothing that happens in Other M matters. It all would have played out the same without Samus. She didn't kill Ridley, she didn't kill MB, she didn't kill the Deleter, she didn't stop the ship, she didn't destroy the ship, she didn't save anyone... She actually accomplishes nothing at all -- not even slightly -- in her own game.
Addendum: The guy in that second link is a freakin' genius. Which is to say, I agree with him. Priceless: "...for anger is a pleasant sensation. To feel your bile rise and your blood boil, to feel a rush of fury ? why, it's the pleasure of being alive, of feeling some actual emotion instead of the constant dull fuzz of the easily contented."
No need to freak out; nothing ever shifted. Besides, is Metroid really known for great story? No, of course not, it's known for awesome gameplay, exploration, open-worlds, and worthwhile backtracking.lumenadducere said:
Actually, not so much. The first Metroid game was more heavily influenced by Gunpei Yokoi, the second was entirely made by Yokoi, and the first two Prime games were more heavily influenced by Miyamoto, who was Yokoi's protege at Nintendo and wanted to ensure they matched his version of the series.Monk Ed said: