Zero Punctuation: Pikmin 3

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PsychedelicDiamond said:
Yahtzee, being german i'm offended by your reference to german scatporn.

Not only does ignore all the other varieties of hardcore fetish porn my great country produces, it also completely disregards the high quality scatporn made by other countries which i'm sure is going to offend shit fetishists from all over the world. I demand that you change it to something less inflammatory until next week otherwise i'm afraid i'm going to have to complain on the internet and pretend that anyone cares for my hurt feelings!
Being of German descent I have to agree with this sentiment, it is a great injustice that the Germans have been labeled as scat fetishists and Yahtzee should feel ashamed for perpetuating this stereotype. I will now proceed to hold my breath until Yahtzee edits this video and personally comes over to my house to apologize to every single German relative I have.
 

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I was originally going to make a joke about being offended but I see everyone already beat me to it. Going to be interesting to see how this all works out, maybe we'll end up with two versions of ZP, a politically correct one and an entertaining one.

That said I don't own a gamecube or a Wii U so I've never actually played a pikmin game. The concept always interested me, being a lover of RTS games but I think I grew out of Nintendo.
 

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Dante dynamite said:
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Genocidicles said:
I'm sorry but the references to the Battle of Somme were highly distressing to me. The Battle of Somme is one of the bloodiest battles in human history, where over a million men were wounded or killed. It makes me sick that such a thing was made light of, and I request that it be changed.

I can't in good conscience continue watching Zero Punctuation after that. It made me feel uneasy, and I'm ashamed Mr Croshaw brought it up.
Ahahaha, I love this. We should crusade to get some little detail changed in every video from now on.
Yeah I agree but I've got a better example let's say that sex dungeon joke is a rape joke and ***** like crazy about it

Captcha: burning oil. Hell yeah lets start a flame war.
Sounds like dickwolves all over again.

Either way, not surprised he had an issue with the controller. Motion controllers have never been his strong suit - not that I can blame him, they all handle like arse.
 

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Raiyan 1.0 said:
Looks like the Escapist community is being extra juvenile today.
I know right. You'd think that you were dealing with a bunch of 12 year olds. Jokes are funniest if they are posted ad infinitum, especially when it is such a nuanced and clever one.
 

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Balkan said:
Is he serious? You can't use the touch screen ? Isn't that like making a PS3 shooter where you aim with the d-pad?
You do use the touch screen, but not for gathering the pikmin or throwing them.
You have 3 characters so basically you can control one char manually while the two others can do stuff like move to new locations and explore etc, and that's what the screen is used for, exploring.
Personally I think they could've used the touch screen more and in varying ways depending on what suits oneself best, but overall I enjoyed the game, even thou it was a bit short with only 10 hours of story gameplay + minigames (maybe 3-6 extra hours).
 

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PsychedelicDiamond said:
Yahtzee, being german i'm offended by your reference to german scatporn.

Not only does ignore all the other varieties of hardcore fetish porn my great country produces, it also completely disregards the high quality scatporn made by other countries which i'm sure is going to offend shit fetishists from all over the world. I demand that you change it to something less inflammatory until next week otherwise i'm afraid i'm going to have to complain on the internet and pretend that anyone cares for my hurt feelings!
Mmmmh... Sie haben Mais gegessen!
 

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Abomination said:
Either way, not surprised he had an issue with the controller. Motion controllers have never been his strong suit - not that I can blame him, they all handle like arse.
Motion controll??
There is zero/nill/0 motion controlling in Pikmin 3 on the WiiU when using the gamepad as the controller...

People need to stop thinking that the WiiU is an exact copy of the Wii, The only motion stuff I've ever done with the pad when gaming on the console is when flying Samus Arans ship in NintendoLand and when using the sniper/turret in ZombiU, in any other of the games I've played there's no moving around like with the WiiMote, what-so-ever, only buttons and the touch screen.
 

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Are people serious with these comments? Complaining that yahtzee didn't try the wii mote/ nunchuck controls or that he is anti nintendo or saying that he is bias. First, of course he is bias, everyone is bias. I have never read a review that is not bias. Next, does the game recommend for you to use the nunchuck/wiimote, cause that would be weird since this is the Wii U and they are trying to show the worth of the gamepad.

Yahtzee consistently bring up important problems and inconsistencies in games that no one else mentions. What makes these videos great is that Yahtzee is not a nintendo fanboy (or a fanboy of anything) so he actually points out dumb things in nintendo games (and all games) and does not let nostalgia get in the way.

Another great video Yahtzee!
 

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j-e-f-f-e-r-s said:
Why would you want to? The Wiimote and Nunchuck give you objectively more accuracy than analogue sticks. You can even target specific body parts of enemies with the Wiimote, which you can't do with analogues. You can indeed play with the Pro controller, but why would you deliberately pass over a control method that gives you greater control?
o hai jefffers, I'm slightly amazed you don't have me on ignore.
But anyway, to answer the question of why I would rather use the Pro controller:
1. The Wiimote is finicky and inaccurate,to the point where even simple motions like trying to do a search on netflix is a pain in the ass.
2. I played the Wii version of Pikmin 2 once, and despite having beaten the GC version twice I could barely survive the early game and found myself wishing for the GC controller.
3. My Wii is in front of my couch, so I like to lounge when I play, which makes aiming with the Wiimote even harder.
 

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Dunhart said:
I must admit I can't tell if you're serious about this or not. Pretty good job there.

In the off-chance that you are, using something bad as a point of comparison isn't as offensive as you make it out to be. Hiroshima is frequently used like that and nobody bats an eyelash.
Zombie_Moogle said:
Wait, we're being serious now? It's fo-realz time?

We've noticed that the "offended party" goes by the handle "Genocidicles", right?
Ha! You both fell into my incredibly elaborate and well-planned ruse, and by that I mean I'm not being serious at all. It's a crack at people who thought Yahtzee should remove a transexual joke in the same review as a holocaust joke, because clearly hurting a few people's feelings with a joke is a much bigger reason to self-censor than making light of the holocaust.

major_chaos said:
Can't you just use the pro controller and dispense with the shitty motion controls altogether? Because if you can I may just buy a WiiU for this.
Yeah, the pro-controller works but it's pretty much the exact same as the controller. Still... why not just use the motion controls? Using a pro-controller for this game is like using a controller for a PC RTS and not using the mouse because of some irrational hatred for mouses.
 

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Wow so Germans are all a bunch of shit eaters and scat lovers? I'm posting this video in german communities on social networks let's see if they find it funny.
 

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saxman234 said:
Are people serious with these comments? Complaining that yahtzee didn't try the wii mote/ nunchuck controls or that he is anti nintendo or saying that he is bias. First, of course he is bias, everyone is bias. I have never read a review that is not bias. Next, does the game recommend for you to use the nunchuck/wiimote, cause that would be weird since this is the Wii U and they are trying to show the worth of the gamepad.

Yahtzee consistently bring up important problems and inconsistencies in games that no one else mentions. What makes these videos great is that Yahtzee is not a nintendo fanboy (or a fanboy of anything) so he actually points out dumb things in nintendo games (and all games) and does not let nostalgia get in the way.

Another great video Yahtzee!
Is it a problem if an Xbox One game isn't made for Kinect? Or if a DS game isn't made for dual-screen/touch-screen controls? Or if a Wii game isn't made for motion controls? No. Then it shouldn't be a problem that Nintendo made a game with a control method that isn't the Wii U gamepad in mind. Not every Wii U game has to be The Wonderful 101.
 

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Funny enough. it's implied that the Pikmin are indeed Parasites.

Pikmin (along with Timesplitters) are my fave games, can't wait to play this one!
 

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I really think that the posters here making fatuous complaints about spurious offenses in this video are missing the big picture.

Not once but twice Yahtzee references the idea of drowning innocent animals. Where is your compassion there? Where is the ASPCA, where is PETA? Who will look after our innocent four-footed furry friends? WHO!? Is there no balm in Gilead?

Also Yahtzee, my Gran was offended by some of the language used in this episode. I'm talking about the word German. She's English and is still terribly bitter over the war. Perhaps you could edit out the word German and replace it with something more my Gran friendly, the word Hun springs to mind.
 

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Well, unless Triads counts, this is the first August since well... ever, that there hasn't been a Retro Review.

Loved the Genocide magazine joke and found the episode hilarious, I would get the game but that would involve getting a Wii U as well as playing the game. Can't wait for the Saints Row IV review.
 

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PunkRex said:
Funny enough. it's implied that the Pikmin are indeed Parasites.
Well, actually, Pikmin aren't parasitic as a whole, but one subspecies of Pikmin are parasitic and you can control the fan-favorite Bulbmin: Bulborbs infested with the parasitic species of Pikmin. [/Played too much Pikmin back in the day]


As for myself; my issues with Pikmin 3 are two-fold, unfortunately. The first thing are the controls. I'm sorry, but they're just not good. The Wii U gamepad is decent in that it gives you a map on the touch screen, you have a full set of buttons to work with, etc. Unfortunately, the controls for the cross-hair to throw your Pikmin with is "about as tight as a female pornstar in German Scat Porn"[sic] and flies all over the damn place with little rhyme or reason making aiming a nightmare. The Wii-mote has the decency to have better aiming controls (assuming your Wii-mote isn't being a finicky pain in the ass that given day), but you lose your map (yes, I know you can still use the touch pad while controlling with the Wii-mote, but I don't have 4 arms, and setting down one controller every time I need to pick up the other is just stupid) and good camera controls. Instead of being able to pan your view naturally, you are limited to only being able to lock the camera on the enemy or auto-correcting the camera to be behind your captain, causing your camera angle to jerk and careen about in a ridiculous, jarring fashion.

As for the game itself, it just doesn't feel like its own thing. It tries too hard to be like "hey, remember all this cool stuff from the first two games?" without adding anything interesting of its own. Even the final boss, the Plasma Wraith, is nothing more than a nod to the super creepy Water Wraith from Pikmin 2 - a boss enemy that appears a single time in one of the optional side dungeons hidden in the game. Pikmin 3 is just so short, having completed it 100% in less than 8 hours, and doesn't leave any real lasting impressions aside from the fact it looks very nice. There's barely any content outside of the main game (where there is a SINGLE save file, and they expect you to "replay" days to get your money's worth out the game) and the few bonus missions, which are simply boss rematches and playing in a small section of the levels already present in the main game with some collection goal. Compare to Pikmin 2, where the bonus missions were self contained areas with a completely unique design and enemy set up. There's no "Piklopedia," the fantastic option from the second game that gives information about all the enemies, plants, and even collectables in the game.

...Ehh, let's just say Pikmin 3 is another example of those amaaazzzziiinnggg Nintendo titles that have nothing really wrong with them, but they're so by the numbers and play it safe to the point that they come out simply mediocre if you're looking for something new and interesting or with any real depth to it.

TL;DR

Uuuuuuuuuuuurrrrrrrrrrrgggggggggggggg
 

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I laughed at the German text for a few minutes. For reference, on the box it says "The nicer shit" while the TV text is "MMM You've eaten corn" XD
 

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Llarys said:
PunkRex said:
Funny enough. it's implied that the Pikmin are indeed Parasites.
Well, actually, Pikmin aren't parasitic as a whole, but one subspecies of Pikmin are parasitic and you can control the fan-favorite Bulbmin: Bulborbs infested with the parasitic species of Pikmin. [/Played too much Pikmin back in the day]
I too clocked silly numbers on the previous games, I used to just sit in the Forest Navel and listen to the music, thats my fave game level... alongside Black Velvetopia from Psychonauts. I'd love for Nintendo to realease an artbook with some Pikmin biology stuff in it.

Llarys said:
There's no "Piklopedia," the fantastic option from the second game that gives information about all the enemies, plants, and even collectables in the game.
Woah, woah, woah, wait a minute... they removed the Piklopedia!?
 

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j-e-f-f-e-r-s said:
Aside from that, I love how Yahtzee complains about how modern games are so drab and brown and gritty, yet when a game comes along with some actual colour and some fantastic art design, he mocks it for being 'twee' and 'for babies'. I mean, people stopped using that argument years ago, when the common consensus became that it's actually a damn good game franchise.
I think that it has less to do with the game actually being for kids and more with the fact that Yathzee is pretty much the most bitter person on this site. I mean, I don't have a problem with colourful, for example, but I don't watch MLP* because it looks so saccharine that I can't handle it.





*And I won't watch it, shut up bronies.