Zero Punctuation: Prototype 2

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Warforger

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TheCaptain said:
Did anyone have the feeling that the original Prototype was to be taken seriously? I mean, there was the odd bit of storytelling here and there, and the web of intrigue appealed to the weird compulsion to collect every bit of scrap left lying around, but the game was so hilariously over the top that I always just assumed it to be written in a slight tongue-in-cheek-way.

Bottom line, if Prototype 2 is exactly like Prototype 1 only newer, Mr. Heller and I are going to have a blast :)
But honestly I was hoping to see if there was more about how repetitive Prototype 2 was to 1, I mean I think I went halfway through Prototype 1 before never picking it up again because I just got so bored since it was so repetitive. Yah it wasn't bad it's just even with all the abilities it got old real fast especially when all the new enemies are just beefier versions of ones you've been fighting for a long time.
 

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I can agree with Yahtzee on this one. Prototype 2 was fun while it lasted, but once it's done, it's just... done. And forgettable. I remember it holding my attention at the time, but I honestly don't recall much of what happened in the game.

The ending is also incredibly dumb and very rushed. But I have to say, there's something awesome about moving the way Heller does. I wouldn't pay for this game, but it was a fantastic rent.
 

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Caramel Frappe said:
GeorgW said:
I knew you'd like it, even though it's been getting ripped by critics. I haven't played it, but I did like the first one. Lots of funny parts, the pretty one and Liverpool especially.
In truth, I don't really take critics that seriously besides just a few like Yahtzee himself. Most of them tend to judge the game on quality, on plot, and on facts such as gameplay while they're not interested from the start but play it anyways due to being paid. For Yahtzee, the reason he liked this was because it improved from the first Prototype along with having much to do if you're killing time.

But yeah if a ton of critics are ripping a game then it does leave you wondering.. anyways I liked this review and I laughed quite a few times. Good show of course Yahtzee, i'll probably never get bored of your episodes (besides, I myself have seen every single one so.. doubt I will stop now anyways for whatever reason).
Of course there's a lot of difference between reviewers and you have to find a good fit for yourself. In the end, as long as you're enjoying a game the review shouldn't matter, I only use them when deciding on what games to get. Don't know what kind of odd review you'd prefer, but I'd rather prefer a review to judge a game on quality and gameplay facts... ^^
 

Covarr

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More Just Cause 2? Yahtzee, are you mad? Between the boring as boring driving missions and the extremely repetitive combat, there just isn't enough game there to really justify saying studios should do more of it. Even the best parts of the game are just "run grapple shoot repeat".

P.S. Thanks
 

duchaked

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Escapist Expo?? Finally something I can go to without a plane ticket or multiple tanks of gas :D
 

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ANeM said:
The Escapist Expo thing sounded interesting right up until the "North Carolina" part. It seems like if you're going to hold a convention it would probably be best not to hold it in a place that would automatically alienate a large portion of your audience.
This seems to suprise a lot of people. But North Carolina is a gameing Hub. A lot of major design schools and game developing companies are located here. Epic for example being one of the most well known.

Also The Escapist is based there and it would be QUITE silly for them to have to fly somewhere to go to their own convention now wouldn't it?

:D Lucky for me i love in NC
North Carolina is awesome :D

okay it gets pretty boring but it's a pretty safe place to live...unless you're in downtown Durham loll uh oh
 

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ImSkeletor said:
Abedeus said:
Lost it at "To the gulag!"...
ANeM said:
The Escapist Expo thing sounded interesting right up until the "North Carolina" part. It seems like if you're going to hold a convention it would probably be best not to hold it in a place that would automatically alienate a large portion of your audience.
Now, now, they're not alienating anyone.

They just want to show that there is a first class citizen.

And if are on the wrong team, you are not that first class citizen.
What are you talking about exactly?
61% of NC thinks homosexuals, bi and transgender people don't deserve the right to marry each others. Even a civil marriage.
 

Ed130 The Vanguard

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RetroFlush said:
Very fun review, as always.

Unfortunate time to mention North Carolina, by the way.
So that state IS the one that's full of homophobes. Wait I mean full of "concerned citizens."
 

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Brad Shepard said:
The ending of this game made me want to go out and punch someone in the jugular
MFW ending
http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=004719
http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=004720
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http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=004722
http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=004723
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http://mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=005345
 

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Ed130 said:
RetroFlush said:
Very fun review, as always.

Unfortunate time to mention North Carolina, by the way.
So that state IS the one that's full of homophobes. Wait I mean full of "concerned citizens."
I live Sanford, FL adjacent. Thank goodness we aren't full of homophobes. We're full of...oh, wait...
 

GeorgW

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Caramel Frappe said:
GeorgW said:
Caramel Frappe said:
GeorgW said:
I knew you'd like it, even though it's been getting ripped by critics. I haven't played it, but I did like the first one. Lots of funny parts, the pretty one and Liverpool especially.
In truth, I don't really take critics that seriously besides just a few like Yahtzee himself. Most of them tend to judge the game on quality, on plot, and on facts such as gameplay while they're not interested from the start but play it anyways due to being paid. For Yahtzee, the reason he liked this was because it improved from the first Prototype along with having much to do if you're killing time.

But yeah if a ton of critics are ripping a game then it does leave you wondering.. anyways I liked this review and I laughed quite a few times. Good show of course Yahtzee, i'll probably never get bored of your episodes (besides, I myself have seen every single one so.. doubt I will stop now anyways for whatever reason).
Of course there's a lot of difference between reviewers and you have to find a good fit for yourself. In the end, as long as you're enjoying a game the review shouldn't matter, I only use them when deciding on what games to get. Don't know what kind of odd review you'd prefer, but I'd rather prefer a review to judge a game on quality and gameplay facts... ^^
Yea I see where you're getting at. It's like those critics who judge a movie for being poorly done yet it's far more amusing and entertaining then say an oscar winning movie that bored me to death. All depends on people's tastes as far as one could guess, and we all can agree that if Yahtzee had a positive feeling for this game, then it's got to be good somehow when playing it no?
But movie critiquing is entirely different, the enjoyment of them is largely subjective, and movie critics focus on entirely the wrong things. First off, they don't handle genres the way we do. For games, a genre is how the gameplay is, which will cater to different people. Within this predefined gameplay frame, which the audience already knows it likes, the game can either succeed or not, which is an objective statement. However it can succeed in different ways, and some will appeal more to different people, but usually game reviewers will present these differences for the player to decide for themselves if they succeeded.

For movies, genres aren't defined by how it will affect the audience, but rather about how it succeeds at fulfilling certain pre-decided plot lines and twists. In my opinion, the first part is vastly more important regarding what kind of audience will like the movie. Secondly, most movie critics will value specific genres over other, and not really address what kind of audience will like the movie, assuming every moviegoer is like them. That way they aren't leaving it up to the audience and are therefore completely worthless in my opinion. Moviebob understands that, and that's why he's the only movie critic I like.

Anyway, this became quite the tangent. The point is, you can't really compare game reviews and movie reviews. Additionally, you can't see Yahtzee as a reviewer, he's a critic. The difference is that he isn't judging the game objectively. He's saying if it's fun or not for him, and different people will find different things fun. If Yahtzee has a good feeling for a game, that's only meaningful if you have the same taste as Yahtzee. People need to realise this is only for entertainment purposes and stop taking it so seriously.
 

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Vault101 said:
wow..yahtzee was surprisingly light on this one
He judges games based on how much gratification a game gives him, not the overall design, though he mentions that poorly designed games are rather bad as well.
 

Chunko

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This has got to be my new favorite Zero Punctuation. Can't stop laughing lol.