Zero Punctuation: Red Dead Redemption

[Celtic_Kerr]

don't get me wrong, i think yahtze does a good job reviewing MOST games, i just think he did a piss poor job reviewing red dead redemption. I didn't have any physics problems while playing the game, maybe thats because I have a 360, and he most likely has the annoying ps3. -snip

Do you honestly think different consoles get designers to use entirely different physics engines?

I'm not even going to read the rest of your post, my eyes might just bleed.

Edward: I must say it would be interesting to try and see a company justify it all if the pulled that stunt. "Well you see in the XBOX 360 game, gravity is stronger, so good luck if you try to shoot someone from more than two feet or make your horse go at a somewhat decent pace" HAHA

Haha yeah that'd be a tough on to explain, do you own all the consoles then?

Nope. Just the PS3

 

[Khemzar]

Finally, someone else who liked the sailing parts of Wind Waker. I thought I was all alone in enjoying those.

 

[Romeka B]

Hm, he spent the overwhelming majority of the review hating on the game, and then at the end we hear the words "beautifully written and beautifully atmospheric" - have to say, didn't see that coming. Regardless, it really seems like this game is worth checking out.

... do you guys even watch these reviews?

He's saying it is, indeed, a good looking, well told video of immersion... it's just missing the whole "game" part. There's no point to getting money to buy guns or horse pills or whatever because: you're not punished in any way for dying, you get the upgrades and extras within the missions anyway, and the "challenges" offer no reward other than "fame" which doesn't give you any real, or rather, palpable advantage/reward while playing.

Watch better. You'll learn something.

 

[RJ Dalton]

Does anyone else think that Green Spleen Submarine should be the name of a band?
Not that anyone's ever going to notice this post, as late as it is.

 

[SonicKoala]

Hm, he spent the overwhelming majority of the review hating on the game, and then at the end we hear the words "beautifully written and beautifully atmospheric" - have to say, didn't see that coming. Regardless, it really seems like this game is worth checking out.

... do you guys even watch these reviews?

He's saying it is, indeed, a good looking, well told video of immersion... it's just missing the whole "game" part. There's no point to getting money to buy guns or horse pills or whatever because: you're not punished in any way for dying, you get the upgrades and extras within the missions anyway, and the "challenges" offer no reward other than "fame" which doesn't give you any real, or rather, palpable advantage/reward while playing.

Watch better. You'll learn something.

I was noting how he had mentioned little to nothing about the story throughout the entire video, and then he abruptly announced how the game was "beautifully written" - it seemed a rather out of place comment, even for a Yahtzee review. I watch his videos every week. Maybe try reading better - perhaps you'll learn something.

 

[mrbananas]

anyone else try hogtying up a woman and leaving her on the railroad tracks. The experience is mustache twirling awesome

 

[Warforger]

Weird, you'd expect a game like that to have little to no bugs considering the advertisement campaign for it, I even saw posters for it at bus stops.

 

[soultwister]

I don't get your last point, Yahtzee. Complaining about games being a time sink is complaining about the whole modern gaming industry. The last time i had some challenge was when i was playing Contra (or Atari2600 games, since the games were about high score, so it had a way to compare yourself with others, a very multiplayer style of gaming), with a fiew exeptions, ofcourse, but unless you're an old PC gamer, you haven't heard of those. Gaming right now is exactly like watching Avatar and is praised by the same kind of people. I sat through it, it was pretty and i didn't feel completely like i'm just aging watching it so i guess i can't really ask for my money back. That's about as good as it gets nowdays.

The only challenge in gaming right now (mostly because any new game is a tired and old concept that old gamers blitz though) is multiplayer, and you're not going to be talking about that ever, since it's almost impossible to review. It's mostly noticable when any MMO talk comes down to what the client is capable of. The kind of thing that's mostly irrelevant when it comes to MMOs. You'd propobly only look at the same aspects of UT3 or SC2.

 

[Calbeck]

When I heard that mountain lions will come right after your ass and slash you to pieces, needing multiple shots to be put down, I thought to myself:

"Wow. Accuracy."

 

[LakeRat]

yeah but you know whats worse than the mountain lions. The Bears, I can not explain how anoying it is to be riding through tall trees and a bear attacks so you kill an skin it then three more decide to join the party.

 

[LakeRat]

I have had no graphics problems on my 360. So I guess he just has a bad system or something

 

[floppylobster]

I liked the review, especially the Green Spleen bit, but er...

All Games(tm) are Time Sinks(R).

Discuss.

Some videogames have a storyline making you feel like your accomplishments are getting you somewhere. Such as Shadow of the Colossus. These are Games (tm)

Other videogames set you tasks to complete which give you a feeling of accomplishment when you finish them. Such as Tetris. These are 'Time Sinks' (R).

Some games manage a middle ground usually leaning toward one or the other type - for example Pokemon has a storyline but leans toward being a Time Sink (R).

Nothing against any of them but I prefer games.

The best way to judge which it is, is to think how you feel about the game afterward. Do you remember the experience or just the result? Would you play again from the start if you lost save data or was everything you collected more important thing?

For example - playing through Lego Star Wars was a Game (tm). Going back and collecting everything after I'd finished it turned it into a Time Sink (R).

 

[oblivion328]

It was a relatively poor review IMHO. Most of it is spent nitpicking about various glitches and control problems, most of which I have honestly never experienced in the game myself. Also, I love how many people will decide not to get a game based on a ZP review when Yahtzee himself has said you shouldn't take his reviews that seriously.

 

[joshuaayt]

It was a relatively poor review IMHO. Most of it is spent nitpicking about various glitches and control problems, most of which I have honestly never experienced in the game myself. Also, I love how many people will decide not to get a game based on a ZP review when Yahtzee himself has said you shouldn't take his reviews that seriously.

That's the sort of thing a reviewer is supposed to nitpick about- so it was a slightly better "review" than it usually is. But about average video, I suppose.

 

[oblivion328]

I suppose. But I still say that if you you base your decision solely on Yahtzee's reviews, you're gonna miss out on plenty of great games. I enjoy Zero Punctuation as much as anyone else, but he does play up the flaws in a lot of games for humorous effect.

 

[YodaUnleashed]

I suppose. But I still say that if you you base your decision solely on Yahtzee's reviews, you're gonna miss out on plenty of great games. I enjoy Zero Punctuation as much as anyone else, but he does play up the flaws in a lot of games for humorous effect.

Totally true; sure listen to what criticisms Yahtzee doles out (and praise on the rare occasion) but don't take it too seriously. Don't base your decision to buy a certain game entirely on his opinion and experiences. I mean that whole business about his horse getting stuck into a wall has never happened to me once, and I've played the game for 20+ hours. And the same goes for all his other glitches.

He knows that people aren't as interested when he gives praise to a game, that's why he abruptly and briefly threw out all that stuff about it being beautiful looking, beautifully written and beautifully atmospheric at the end following it up with some semi-insult. If he went on about all its many good points in length then it wouldn't be as humourous. Thus he plays up the cracks.

I personally thought the main problem with Red Dead was it could get slightly repetitive or at the least predictable. Whenever you got on a carriage or accompanied some mission important person on a horse gangs of marauding horse-riders would attack you in several waves. That I felt happened too often. If however you spaced out your game time it wasn't too bad. But then of course almost every main mission involved shooting somebody. I do wish they'd injected a bit more variety throughout. That's why the last few missions which didn't involve chases or killing people were actually kinda refreshing.

Oh and the 'Red Dead' part of the title...

Spoiler

actually becomes quite at near the end when Marston dies in a pool of his own red blood in an act of selfless sacrifice which makes his redemption complete. Quite smart actually, they tell you the ending in the title, sorta. You didn't think of that did ya Yahtzee you callipygian superman.

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[0986875533423]

Does anyone else think that Green Spleen Submarine should be the name of a band?
Not that anyone's ever going to notice this post, as late as it is.

I notice you! Don't feel unloved!

 

[beema]

So, good game with terrible controls and some crappy mechanics? So many games these days put zero thought in to the control scheme, which can go pretty far towards fucking up an otherwise good experience.

grand theft horse & purple monkey dishwasher! lol

 

[krille_leijon]

You know they fucked up the ps3 port on this one right? It's smother on xbox...

 

[Giantcain]

Damn those cute mountain lions

I always feel bad when i kill a animal in this game and then skin it

there not cute when the model changes for a model of a human being but acts like a mountain lion