Zero Punctuation: Red Steel 2

[MicrosoftPaysMe]

It seems like this review was really short. O well can't wait for him to review Conviction

 

[Daystar Clarion]

Yet another bullshit Wii game review from Yahtzee.

If I need to freking spell it out for you all, I will.

THE WII IS A PERFECTLY GOOD CONSOLE WITH PLENTY OF GOOD GAMES.

All you Yahtzee fanboys who blindly follow his opinions despite the fact that he WANTS people to have their own opinions need to die, preferably in a fire.

I don't really know why I keep commenting on these, Yahtzee is still going to make these unfunny bullshit "reviews" that serve no purpose other than to make me want to punch him in the face over the internet.

Anyway, Red Steel 2 is awesome. Buy it.

So agreeing with an opinion makes someone a fanboy? Also, if you don't like the reviews, why watch them and make angry comments telling people to die? Obvious troll is obvious.

 

[hcig]

yea, this would have been funnier and better if it wasnt for the wii trashing, or rather, the WM+ trashing, he is completely dishonest about what the WM+ does...

I dunno...it seemed more like he was delivering a backhanded compliment than bashing it.

Not so sure about the upgrades, though. Even if you don't upgrade your katana strength, all you need to do is force the enemy into a weak position and finish them (personally, I love the Guillotine->Matador and Matador->Shot combos). The complaint seemed to be that some of the automatically unlocked moves are rather overpowered.

well, maybe, with yahtzee i suppose its hard to tell, at least when it comes to anything wii related (take that backhanded comment at the beginning about the wii being a home for innovation, for example)

well ive been playing though on ninja, with weapons vanilla (except for revolver accuracy, its horribly off shot in the beginning) and pacing my special moves unlocks, and the game is significantly harder (if you input the nihonto hana code, its even harder, because its a wakizashi)

but it also seems to vary by fighting styles, Jason V, the director says he has noticed people have distinct fighting styles, and apparently "the gamer" or, the guy who doesnt give a damn, and rushes in to kill everything, tends to have an easier time with the game, because he is so focused on raging through the whole fight, he seems to almost become bulletproof, hahaha.

im a bit similar to you though, but without the guillotine, i spend alot of time moving from one enemy to another, taking down immediate threats, and chipping away at armor and health as i dash around the room, then once i get an opening, i use the reaper, the matador, or the shot to finish them off.

the reaper and matador are EPIC against shinjiro, and if you use the eagle, you can start a short mid-air battle

 

[Omega Hunter 9]

Huzzah, loved the Reboot reference!

 

[itsmeyouidiot]

I'm not trolling, I'm flaming.

Wait, that came out wrong.

 

[Boaal]

Well, while I did get a laugh, and I loved the Hobbes bit, this was ENTIRELY PREDICTABLE.
he is however right - three and half years and the fact that nintendo allowed wii music to exist... shows something of a deficiency in the company.

 

[hcig]

Yey. Back to a good standard!

I love my Wii, but I love hearing Yahtzee tear it to shreds.

Now what the Wii needs is someone to burn all those casual games and start again. Even if there were good games on Wii, at the moment its too embarrassing rummaging through "My favourite pet kitten", "Barbies Magical Adventure" and other such made up titles which wouldn't shock my if the did really exist.

Wii was supposed to be a new and futuristic gaming system, not just another way to play chess.

p.s. Does anyone know if "Sadness" will ever be released? Along with Zelda, it was one of the reasons I bought the Wii on release date but seems to have vanished/been cancelled.

1.sadness was vaporware, sorry, but shattered memories is similar in concept, and it way friggin awesome (also very graphically appealing)

2.casual games dont need to burn, there are people that enjoy those games, the problem is the STIGMA needs to burn, so developers will put in proper time and money (like with RS2, silent hill, and monster hunter tri) to make a good game, sadly, RS2 isnt doing very well (though it has alot working against it) but silent hill sold well, and in japan, monster hunter tri sold the BEST of all the console MH games (still hard to compete with the psp market thought, as it is a portable version)

3.also, i like chess, but we need advance wars online instead

 

[KillerRabbit]

Yet another bullshit Wii game review from Yahtzee.

If I need to freking spell it out for you all, I will.

THE WII IS A PERFECTLY GOOD CONSOLE WITH PLENTY OF GOOD GAMES.

All you Yahtzee fanboys who blindly follow his opinions despite the fact that he WANTS people to have their own opinions need to die, preferably in a fire.

I don't really know why I keep commenting on these, Yahtzee is still going to make these unfunny bullshit "reviews" that serve no purpose other than to make me want to punch him in the face over the internet.

Anyway, Red Steel 2 is awesome. Buy it.

You do realize it is his niche to flame everything, whatever game or console the game is played on? Fail?

 

[hcig]

Yet another bullshit Wii game review from Yahtzee.

If I need to freking spell it out for you all, I will.

THE WII IS A PERFECTLY GOOD CONSOLE WITH PLENTY OF GOOD GAMES.

All you Yahtzee fanboys who blindly follow his opinions despite the fact that he WANTS people to have their own opinions need to die, preferably in a fire.

I don't really know why I keep commenting on these, Yahtzee is still going to make these unfunny bullshit "reviews" that serve no purpose other than to make me want to punch him in the face over the internet.

Anyway, Red Steel 2 is awesome. Buy it.

So agreeing with an opinion makes someone a fanboy? Also, if you don't like the reviews, why watch them and make angry comments telling people to die? Obvious troll is obvious.

i still watch to be entertained
i have to say, this was way better than what he usually does with wii (this had backhanded compliments instead of straight out hateful insults) but you have to admit, yahtzee has a track record of flat out, sony level lying about the wii, and you know he does it just to spark ire. (trolling)

oh, and buy red steel 2, its awesome, despite what yahtzee says, the combat makes it worth it.

 

[SkullCap]

I have to admit this game looks rather good. Definitely worth a rental to check it out.

I must say this is Yahtzee's first Wii review in several months which made me curious as to why he has not reviewed No More Heroes 2. Regardless of that, this Red Steel 2 review was a nice surprise.

 

[facecream]

I like the Big Boss reference.

 

[hcig]

I have to admit this game looks rather good. Definitely worth a rental to check it out.

I must say this is Yahtzee's first Wii review in several months which made me curious as to why he has not reviewed No More Heroes 2. Regardless of that, this Red Steel 2 review was a nice surprise.

he joked about "too good to rip on" before but im almost certain he cant complain enough to justify it

or maybe its because it doesnt release until the end of next month

 

[Lucky Grim]

That was probably my favorite ZP yet. I can't say why, or what led me to that conclusion, but I walked away from the Red Steel review in better spirits than I have before when watching his reviews, so grats! Keep up the good work.

 

[Enigmers]

Seeing Hobbes for a split second made me much happier than it probably should have.

 

[RTR]

I think it's weird how Yahtzee hasn't commented on getting spoofed in Doraleous and Associates.

 

[Shadow-Fox]

did anyone else notice the awful lot of masturbation jokes? I think Yahtzee is finally paying the price for his attitude towards relationships. ^^

 

[Madmanonfire]

Yahtzee, you're a great reviewer, and God, I love ya', but I really hope your constant disappointment with anything made by Nintendo is more about your intent to come off as a people-hater than to genuinely be dissuading people from looking into it.

I agree as much as you will that motion control is just a long-term experiment, much like 3D movies. The only reason it's got such a free ride is because it's different. It's a gimmick if there ever was one. But even if I personally don't like using it and will prefer plugging in the Gamecube controller whenever I (rarely) play a Wii game, I understand the necessity of it all.

Look, the Wii is definitely designed around the casual gamer, and for many but the most devoted of Nintendo fans, a lot of it won't seem made for them. A lot of it will seem really easy, almost insultingly so, but I think that's the truth of it all. A LOT of the Wii ISN'T for those of us seeking greater and greater challenges, not to say the first-party Mario titles ever disappoint even now. Nintendo realized there was a vacuum in the market for games and consoles priced and intended for gamers who were never gamers before. They realized that just as they had raised our generation of now-hardcores' back in the NES/SNES/64 days, so too did the newest generation need the same thing. Except nobody else in the gaming industry was prepared to do that.

Back in the golden age, we had Atari, Sega and Nintendo, all GAMING companies. Since then, the two new big guys have stepped in and made a name for themselves, and as a whole Playstation and XBox are distributing gaming to the masses adequately. But the problem is, Sony and Microsoft aren't GAMING companies, they're massive multinational corporate empires, and they're less concerned with the ultimate fate of the gaming industry than they are about appealing to what people seem to want here and now.

Back in the 80's, comic books went to a point when the geekier aspect made for kids was almost chucked entirely out the window when the "Grim and Gritty" fad took over, with comics like Watchemen and Spawn forming bandwagons that everyone else jumped on, since all the older hardcore comic book fans thought it was so badass. But then, early 90's, those fans grew up and stopped buying comics out of necessity, and there were no young comic book reading kids to spur on a new generation. No Mom wanted to buy their kid "Spawn", are you kidding? And so the market imploded, and to this day you can't get kids to buy comic books, not unless they actually happen to be Japanese manga.

This can happen to gaming, and it looks all too likely that it will. Nintendo has played their cards smart, they know they need to attract and makes games for new gamers. The WiiMote and all it's motion-sensor garbage was probably a fluke, but Nintendo is going to use it, because everyone wants it. They've got themselves a mascot, a timeless symbol of gaming named Mario for the new gamers to rally behind, whereas Playstation has "BluRay Logo Man", and XBox has Master Chief, a faceless lump of emotionless armor. Casual gaming is getting parents and grandparents little kids to join the cause. And if it keeps up, gaming may stop being such an insider thing and enter the mass media, securing itself as part of our culture, the same way that comics, film and television did in their day, when THEY were the new kids on the block.

And it's working, the Wii may make a lot of shovel-ware needlessly, but it's conquering sales, and Nintendo is unthinkably on top as if the world had rewound back to the good old days. Nintendo is a gaming company, and they're willing to step back and be the elementary teachers of the new generation instead of running with their graduates, willing to immortalize gaming and do what's necessary to strengthen its weak points and its place in the world. Playstation and XBox are doing their thing just fine, but what casual game exists for the Playstation? Ratchet and Clank? That's about it. But without all those new gamers, the market will implode. And the second it does, Sony and XBox can and WILL opt out. No more Playstation, no more XBox, and they'd take a ton of 3rd party devs with them, since Nintendo will still be going, but will see no reason to keep the 3rd parties on life support. Goodbye Konami, goodbye Capcom.

Yahtzee, I understand. I know you WANT to root for Nintendo as much as anyone, but you see so little for you that you can't see how you can do that. You loved No More Heroes, so I know you're not indiscriminate, but rather than insist that however little you like it, the Wii is designed around casual and beginner gamers, you merely call the console worthless as a whole, and since so many people listen to your opinions Yahtzee, that's done far more harm than good, it's helped widen an unhealthy rift between the casual gamers and the hardcores. I'm sure that's not your intention, but the fact remains, we as gamers, hardcore or casual, need to stand as a whole for the love of our medium, to beat down the unfair negative stigmas gaming has garnered, especially to fight off the bullshit violence debate. The casual gamers are non-gamers giving gaming a go. How much more solid ground will we have if our Moms and Grandmoms become gamers in the slightest sense, no longer seeing the console as this untrustworthy bad-habit machine. We need this to get bigger, we need them on our side.

Nintendo understood this. The Wii doesn't have everything for everyone, but it just about has everything for someone, and those someone's are the casual gamers. They are necessary, and I applaud Nintendo for being the only ones to really see it, even if it means less content an experienced gamer like myself is likely to enjoy.

No-one cares

This is the kind of response you get when someone is ultimately defeated, doesn't like it, and lacks the brain power to come up with something smart.

Very nice speech. It actually has thought put into it, unlike the random Wii-haters in this thread.

OT: Despite problems, RS2 sounds much more playable than the first. Gonna rent it someday...

 

[SkullCap]

I have to admit this game looks rather good. Definitely worth a rental to check it out.

I must say this is Yahtzee's first Wii review in several months which made me curious as to why he has not reviewed No More Heroes 2. Regardless of that, this Red Steel 2 review was a nice surprise.

he joked about "too good to rip on" before but im almost certain he cant complain enough to justify it

or maybe its because it doesnt release until the end of next month

*laughs quietly to myself*

The Australian release dates do point to the possibility of No More Heroes 2 not being reviewed yet just like Silent Hill: Shattered Memories.

 

[Alon Shechter]

And yes she can read that fast!

That is one helluva special ability....

 

[sneeky033]

i had a lot of fun with this game, but i agree with yahtzee in that swordfighting is the only kind of hardcore gameplay that could be enhanced by the motionplus.

best review in a long time