Zero Punctuation: Sonic Unleashed
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I just saw the gamedamage trailer. Did I just see Yahtzee with a chainsaw? If yes, then I feel the need to quote Roger Daltrey: "YEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH!!!!!!"
Notice I mentioned nothing of slowness or dueling (-_-Super Racer Z said:
Anyways, I'm just saying it seems kinda strange that one day at Sega Headquarters, they'd suddenly decide to give Sonic the ability to become a cross between a werewolf and Mr. Fantastic. Then ship him straight to medievil times to take up swordsmanship (why he even needs a sword is beyond me though, when he can take down skyscraper-sized robots anyways).
Also I'd like to bring up Sega Superstar *Tennis*...do I sense a trend?
Hey, how many of you have actually played the game? Just wondering, because a lot of people like to talk between their teeth and bad mouth a game to jump on the bandwagon before they even play a game. I like to say that if you haven't played more than 2 hours of the game (one hour is only a first impression), your opinion on a game isn't credible. With a demo, it's around 30 minutes minimum. Err, IMO that is.
And stop making comments insulting people who like the game. It's annoying, to say the least.
And stop making comments insulting people who like the game. It's annoying, to say the least.
Jeez that was pretty harsh, I almost felt like I had to defend the game from such harsh criticism. Of course I haven't played it so I'd probably feel the same way if I had played it.
I do have to agree with him though the franchise just never seems to get it right (His analogy to washed-up rock bands is well put). But I doubt Sonic Team gives a shit anyway, they still make great sales regardless because the kids and loyal fanboys (how many are still around?) still play the darn things.
EDIT:^^ Hey buddy, chill out man! I can see you're a Sonic fanboy. Here's my advise, just ignore opinions. If you like the game, fine, more power to ya, but don't start stressing yourself over it...
I do have to agree with him though the franchise just never seems to get it right (His analogy to washed-up rock bands is well put). But I doubt Sonic Team gives a shit anyway, they still make great sales regardless because the kids and loyal fanboys (how many are still around?) still play the darn things.
EDIT:^^ Hey buddy, chill out man! I can see you're a Sonic fanboy. Here's my advise, just ignore opinions. If you like the game, fine, more power to ya, but don't start stressing yourself over it...
Well you have to remember, Mario is guilty of way more of this way before Sonic did it. And if you think about it, how the hell did they come up with a blue spiky humanoid that has red shoes, can run at the speed of sound, has a villain who is a fat evil genius with a big mustache and a hover mobile and takes over the place and builds a bunch of robots use his animal friend inside of them for their power? It's staggering really, especially how it came out to be a hedgehog. Basically I'm saying it's not too fantastic. Maybe he got the idea from Ristar and.....all I can come up with is drugs. I think that's how Sonic came to be too...SuperGoomba64 said:Notice I mentioned nothing of slowness or dueling (-_-Super Racer Z said:
Anyways, I'm just saying it seems kinda strange that one day at Sega Headquarters, they'd suddenly decide to give Sonic the ability to become a cross between a werewolf and Mr. Fantastic. Then ship him straight to medievil times to take up swordsmanship (why he even needs a sword is beyond me though, when he can take down skyscraper-sized robots anyways).
Also I'd like to bring up Sega Superstar *Tennis*...do I sense a trend?
Yeah, you pretty much have it down. As long as people are throwing money, the developers will just sit back and soak it in, figuring they have the winning formula. If only game developers today had the passion of some of those modders out there (emphasis on some). They make these amazing creations, yet charge nothing.Proto Cloud said:
They feel content with the accomplishment and the happy gamers being their reward, and they even keep maintenance on it (fixing exploits and bugs) while others would slap it on the shelf to start filling their wallets as soon as possible.
*sigh* Money...such corruption and evil it carries inside it's seemingly harmless paper exterior...
Not to mention evil turtles, plants that only grow in pipes, walking mushrooms, along with a fireball shooting plumber...some seriously strange stuff if you think about it.Super Racer Z said:Well you have to remember, Mario is guilty of way more of this way before Sonic did it. And if you think about it, how the hell did they come up with a blue spiky humanoid that has red shoes, can run at the speed of sound, has a villain who is a fat evil genius with a big mustache and a hover mobile and takes over the place and builds a bunch of robots use his animal friend inside of them for their power? It's staggering really, especially how it came out to be a hedgehog. Basically I'm saying it's not too fantastic. Maybe he got the idea from Ristar and.....all I can come up with is drugs. I think that's how Sonic came to be too...SuperGoomba64 said:Notice I mentioned nothing of slowness or dueling (-_-Super Racer Z said:
Anyways, I'm just saying it seems kinda strange that one day at Sega Headquarters, they'd suddenly decide to give Sonic the ability to become a cross between a werewolf and Mr. Fantastic. Then ship him straight to medievil times to take up swordsmanship (why he even needs a sword is beyond me though, when he can take down skyscraper-sized robots anyways).
Also I'd like to bring up Sega Superstar *Tennis*...do I sense a trend?
Anyways I'm not too worried about the trend as long as it doesn't evolve into Master Chief playing soccer with Duke Nukem...
I'd rather be known as a fan. I know a bad game when I see it, I don't try to get every game, and I play lots of other games. I just like the story and characters and all of that, plus he was one of my first just for fun games (my first was a preschool game on the computer if I remember correctly). That, and I picture fanboys as lifeless crazy people who will blindly buy everything with their idle's name on it and love it no matter what.Proto Cloud said:
P.S. I think it's also my love for speed, as I like car games and cars. But what really makes me think it is that I love karting, and kart racing at 20 mph is as good (better, no, must think equal, as karting cost so god damn much...) as Sonic, although way more freaking expensive...that, and scraping the wall gives you one tough kick (And almost cost me my lead on the last lap. I did two races and won both...hehe).
I probably shouldn't but I'm gonna ignore the last few pages and just jump right into here before I forget what I was gonna say.
First off, I really enjoyed this review and also noticed that Yahztee seemed unusually angry at the game. However, I actually understand his sentiment, because like him, I think that games which try too hard to be difficult (and often resemble horrible romhacks like he mentioned) just aren't what gaming in general needs. If the hardcore little kiddies wanna get jazzed up about that sorta thing, go play/make another version of Kaizo Mario or Metroid Redesign.
Secondly, I'm curious as to why Yahztee went (yet again) for a Wii version of a game that's on multiple consoles. Didn't his Force Unleashed review teach him to research the games first? I've heard many people talk about how Sonic on the Wii was designed by a different company altogether (the one that makes the horrible GBA and DS ones) and that Sonic Team was involved in the Sony and Microsoft versions.
I'm not sure which version of the game I wanna try. I really don't want anything to do with the Wii Version after Secret Rings scarred me for life on Sonic games for the Wii (I'm still hoping that Black Knight will be better), and so I'm considering getting the PS2 version. Maybe Yahztee just picked the worst version. *shrug*
EDIT: Super Goomba and Super Racer bring up an interesting point. Mario does get away with a lot of shit (I personally can't stand most of his newer games save for the RPGs), and I am not surprised to see that Sega (who used to compete with Nintendo) is trying to mimic some of their old adversary's ideas for their own mascot. And just like Mario, Sonic has been suffering a fair deal the last 6 or 7 years.
First off, I really enjoyed this review and also noticed that Yahztee seemed unusually angry at the game. However, I actually understand his sentiment, because like him, I think that games which try too hard to be difficult (and often resemble horrible romhacks like he mentioned) just aren't what gaming in general needs. If the hardcore little kiddies wanna get jazzed up about that sorta thing, go play/make another version of Kaizo Mario or Metroid Redesign.
Secondly, I'm curious as to why Yahztee went (yet again) for a Wii version of a game that's on multiple consoles. Didn't his Force Unleashed review teach him to research the games first? I've heard many people talk about how Sonic on the Wii was designed by a different company altogether (the one that makes the horrible GBA and DS ones) and that Sonic Team was involved in the Sony and Microsoft versions.
I'm not sure which version of the game I wanna try. I really don't want anything to do with the Wii Version after Secret Rings scarred me for life on Sonic games for the Wii (I'm still hoping that Black Knight will be better), and so I'm considering getting the PS2 version. Maybe Yahztee just picked the worst version. *shrug*
EDIT: Super Goomba and Super Racer bring up an interesting point. Mario does get away with a lot of shit (I personally can't stand most of his newer games save for the RPGs), and I am not surprised to see that Sega (who used to compete with Nintendo) is trying to mimic some of their old adversary's ideas for their own mascot. And just like Mario, Sonic has been suffering a fair deal the last 6 or 7 years.
How come he hasn't reviewed any PS3 titles yet? I want to see a Little Big Planet review!
Or at least Resistance 2.
Or at least Resistance 2.
That'd mean that Duke Nukem Forever's come out then. Hehehe.SuperGoomba64 said:
Anyways, about poor Sonic: it's impossible to have a really 'great' game in 3D. Either:
- It's really, really fast, and you hurtle into spike pits/obstacles without a hope in hell of avoiding them.
- It's not that fast, and then gets ragged on hard for not playing like a sonic game 'should', I.E. fast:
- It's not about Sonic running around at all, instead he's... doing something else. So then it gets righteously ripped for an completely unexpected genre change.
The best thing they could do with the inexplicably blue hedgehog at this point is pull the same trick that Bionic Commando: Rearmed did. Take an old game, reskin it to new graphics without messing around in that third dimension, and release it not as it's own $60 package, but more like a $20 download.
Oh yeah, and about this review? Brutal. That's the harshest I've ever seen a ZP get, and I know he's said more favorable things about some truly AWFUL games, so this one must just take the cake of bad.
I'm surprised. With all the games out there that everyone didn't expect to suck (and don't) that you chose one that gleamed with shit that could be seen from a mile away. Still funny, though.