Zero Punctuation: Super Mario Galaxy 2
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Although I can agree to the assertion that SMG 2 definitely had the feel of "bring in the new people" from the packaging, I must say that most casual players will not be getting the first 120 stars. Some of those levels are incredibly frustrating, though nothing beats the first "Luigi on Mario" level from SMG 1 for sheer frustration.
Hmmmm "cake".
Anyway, I personally enjoyed Mario Galaxy 2, but I have to agree with Yahtzee that it did seem rather odd that no one in the game seemed react to the fact that Bowser seemed to be pulling the exact same stunt he pulled in the first Mario Galaxy. It makes me wonder, as in the first Mario Galaxy, why Bowser even kidnapped Peach this time. If he was out to create some big galactic empire, there would be nothing to gain from kidnapping a princess from one small insignificant planet. The only explanation I can think of is because he wants Mario to try and stop him. In both Mario Galaxy games, Mario wouldn't have even been aware of Bowser's plans for galactic conquest if he hadn't bothered to stop by and pick up Peach, but because he did Mario was like "Uh oh, looks like I gotta rescue the princess. ...again." So yeah, I'm guessing it's all part of the old hero/villain rivalry thing.
Anyway, I did enjoy the game even if some of the comet challenges are console stompingly frustrating. And I HATE that chimp.
Anyway, I personally enjoyed Mario Galaxy 2, but I have to agree with Yahtzee that it did seem rather odd that no one in the game seemed react to the fact that Bowser seemed to be pulling the exact same stunt he pulled in the first Mario Galaxy. It makes me wonder, as in the first Mario Galaxy, why Bowser even kidnapped Peach this time. If he was out to create some big galactic empire, there would be nothing to gain from kidnapping a princess from one small insignificant planet. The only explanation I can think of is because he wants Mario to try and stop him. In both Mario Galaxy games, Mario wouldn't have even been aware of Bowser's plans for galactic conquest if he hadn't bothered to stop by and pick up Peach, but because he did Mario was like "Uh oh, looks like I gotta rescue the princess. ...again." So yeah, I'm guessing it's all part of the old hero/villain rivalry thing.
Anyway, I did enjoy the game even if some of the comet challenges are console stompingly frustrating. And I HATE that chimp.
I think it was around the time I started playing Mario and Luigi Partners in Time when I realized that this is all some sort of sick and twisted game for Mario, Bowser, and Peach. I mean they've been playing this same exact game since they were babies. I'm pretty sure all three of them are in on it and it's just some way for them to avoid doing actual work. Bowser puts on a facade of being big and evil, finds some way to terrorize Mushroom Kingdom and then just waits it out. Mario pretends to be the hero when really he just wants to cause some chaos, and Peach just wants to do nothing all day.
EDIT- Oh and also, the best part of Super Mario Galaxy 2 is at the start when Bowser becomes giant and suddenly he can fly. Being Giant = Flight in the Mario Universe, remember that kiddies.
EDIT- Oh and also, the best part of Super Mario Galaxy 2 is at the start when Bowser becomes giant and suddenly he can fly. Being Giant = Flight in the Mario Universe, remember that kiddies.
really? Complaining about the plot in a Mario game, where the story is the least important aspect of the experience? Complaining about a slight flick of the wrist, as if the Wii were asking you for a full-on, arm waving pseudo workout? Complaining that a sequel has the same basic formula as its predecessor? This is new, exciting, and refreshing for Yahtzee!
PS. The cake joke was funny...as was the slapping
PS. The cake joke was funny...as was the slapping
That was amusing, but it bugs me that everyone here seems to comment on how much they hate Mario just because he does.
Your girlfriend sounds as cool as my wife. I salute your good fortune and may the love never die, good sir. *salutes*lfielding02 said:
Maybe it wasn't clear in the game but I heard it said in some sort of Nintendo press conference, this mario galaxy was meant to be a sort of alternate timeline to the first mario galaxy
Nice Simpsons reference, but I think alot of people will disagree with when The Simpsons started to go bad. I, personally, say the 10th season was their last good season.
I still need to pick up Super Mario Galaxy 2. It's been a while since it came out.
I still need to pick up Super Mario Galaxy 2. It's been a while since it came out.
Speaking of stagnation: I guess people don't care that he's basically used the same joke for the 25th time or something. This is why I facepalm when people take Yahtzee as a serious critic rather than a comedian...
Wait, so if variety is the spice of [games], and repetition is the starch, then that means, as per a previous metaphor, it's not good to have an excessive amount of variety, as that's like eating spoonfuls of the spice straight from the jar.
So the best balance is clearly a little variety to spice up what would otherwise be repetitive additions to a franchise. Like the switching settings in the Mario games, or, in the case of NSMBW or Galaxy 2, new worlds and powerups.
So... this IS a good game? I am confused!
So the best balance is clearly a little variety to spice up what would otherwise be repetitive additions to a franchise. Like the switching settings in the Mario games, or, in the case of NSMBW or Galaxy 2, new worlds and powerups.
So... this IS a good game? I am confused!
Must... not... try to defend game...
Argh what's the use. Fanboy mode engage.
Nintendo's Mario franchise, excluding the RPGs, have never been story intensive outside Mario rescues princess and/or Yoshis. I understand this irks people because of the nature of games as a storytelling medium. The thing is though this should not ruin a game wholesale, because even if the story's consistant at least it's good, or not bad at least. Keeping the story simple, Hero rescues Princess from Dragon in _________ setting with the help of __________, is fine by me so long as the controls are good, visuals charming, and experience gratifying. The Paper Mario and Mario RPG series have done a great job in the storytelling department, but I don't see that transitioning well to a Platforming Mario very easily without making a mistake or two, something I think they're playing safe with since this is their biggest IP.
Does this mean they shouldn't? No, because I would love to see a Mario Platformer written by "Intelligent Systems," the company behind Paper Mario.
Now if you'll excuse me I'm kind of in the mood for cake now.
Argh what's the use. Fanboy mode engage.
Nintendo's Mario franchise, excluding the RPGs, have never been story intensive outside Mario rescues princess and/or Yoshis. I understand this irks people because of the nature of games as a storytelling medium. The thing is though this should not ruin a game wholesale, because even if the story's consistant at least it's good, or not bad at least. Keeping the story simple, Hero rescues Princess from Dragon in _________ setting with the help of __________, is fine by me so long as the controls are good, visuals charming, and experience gratifying. The Paper Mario and Mario RPG series have done a great job in the storytelling department, but I don't see that transitioning well to a Platforming Mario very easily without making a mistake or two, something I think they're playing safe with since this is their biggest IP.
Does this mean they shouldn't? No, because I would love to see a Mario Platformer written by "Intelligent Systems," the company behind Paper Mario.
Now if you'll excuse me I'm kind of in the mood for cake now.
