Well, very good. All the criticisms were pretty well-founded. Easy boss battles (I say they're pretty fun and epic, though), same ol' premise, and an arbitrary, dated life system. But in reality, these are really very minor issues compared to what Mario Galaxy is as a whole.
Zero Punctuation: Super Mario Galaxy
- Thread starter Yahtzee Croshaw
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To me, SMG felt so dumbed down. Maybe it's because I played SM64 when I was a toddler, but this game was easier than playing Halo against an Altoid.
I agree with just about everything else though.
I agree with just about everything else though.
I was hoping for COD4 but oh well excellent review as always is it just me or are games actually becoming fun for you as opposed to "a second job"
This review is like 99% positive
very true quote from gamasutra:
Again, just as with Zelda: the same characters, the same plot, the same goals every time doesn't matter for these games, because it's about the rules, not the representation ^_^ (yeah zelda is way more in the middle)
(I am a representation gamer though (or a vorthos for knowers of magic-slang) so I don't have galaxy yet and also startb to wonder why I bought a Wii >.>)
I agree, I thought the gravity was a nice gimmick, that really set it apart from the others.Darkong said:
Of course, I also forgave the abundance of extra lives by saying that the reason for it is probably that Nintendo didn't want to HAVE a life counter in the first place, and giving so many one-ups was the next best thing to getting rid of it altogether. Now, as for why they didn't ACTUALLY get rid of it altogether, well, that's a bit of a conundrum.
EDIT: Oh, and I too noticed that Yahtzee seems to be talking a lot slower than normal. What's up with that? Ah well, the drawings were great.
Oh, and I thought Super Mario Sunshine was one of the best games in the Mario franchise, and while I should probably know better than to say that in a ZP thread, I loved the game, so fuck you.
Good review of SMG, but like others said, it sounded like Yahtzee was drunk, bored, or didn't care about this episode. He also slowed wayyy down. Finally, not that I'm an uptight prick, but the gratuitous toilet humor and cursing is distracting, not funny here.
MTG nerds FTW! (I'm a Johnny myself.)tobyornottoby said:This review is like 99% positive, nice
very true quote from gamasutra:
Again, just as with Zelda: the same characters, the same plot, the same goals every time doesn't matter for these games, because it's about the rules, not the representation ^_^
(I am a representation gamer though (or a vorthos for knowers of magic-slang) so I don't have galaxy yet and also wonder why I bought a Wii >.>)
I'm with you there, although I don't have SMG and I probably won't get it unless I get a steady flow of cash very soon.
This review was surprisingly positive and I might actually go buy Super Mario Galaxy if I ever have the chance, but I'm saving for a PS3 and I need money set aside for Brawl. Boooo @ being poor. =(
No, I have no idea what the fuck you mean with that bizarre example.dv8withn8 said:
I understand that games don't need plots to be fun, but I don't understand why people are embracing that Nintendo is being lazy/blatant fanservice by doing the exact same thing over and over again with no variation or explanation whatsoever, even though, when you look at it objectively, the whole thing is completely nonsensical.
3 complaints I don't understand about SMG:
- "You get so many lives". Yes, they have basically taken the concept of lives out of the game, it's irrelevant these days anyway.
- "It's hard to figure out what's going on when you go upside down/sideways". Of course it is, that's the point. Otherwise you might as well put the whole game on one plain.
- "The storyline is always the same". Who the hell cares about the storyline in a level-based platformer? It's a game about jumping between coloured blocks - do they really need to go into detail about your motivation?
- "You get so many lives". Yes, they have basically taken the concept of lives out of the game, it's irrelevant these days anyway.
- "It's hard to figure out what's going on when you go upside down/sideways". Of course it is, that's the point. Otherwise you might as well put the whole game on one plain.
- "The storyline is always the same". Who the hell cares about the storyline in a level-based platformer? It's a game about jumping between coloured blocks - do they really need to go into detail about your motivation?
The story line has been the same in every mario game since super mario for the NES. THAT is what he meant
As always I mostly agree
Nintendo needs to shelve mario and come up with something new.
Mario Sunshine was crap
They need to work more on the story and boss fights.
The live system is pointless especially when they take them all away when you save and quit.
The only point when I disagree even a little is the gravity changing at times it adds a little variety but I HATE it when they put you on upside down and sideways platforms and make you do precise moves and jumps.
The starbits thing feels like something randomly through in to make the wii mote seem more important for the game.
But the game overall is FUN.
It took me a while to remember what you meant by the second fucked up moment then i remembered the queen bee part.
Nintendo needs to shelve mario and come up with something new.
Mario Sunshine was crap
They need to work more on the story and boss fights.
The live system is pointless especially when they take them all away when you save and quit.
The only point when I disagree even a little is the gravity changing at times it adds a little variety but I HATE it when they put you on upside down and sideways platforms and make you do precise moves and jumps.
The starbits thing feels like something randomly through in to make the wii mote seem more important for the game.
But the game overall is FUN.
It took me a while to remember what you meant by the second fucked up moment then i remembered the queen bee part.
Personally, Galaxy is probably one of my favorite games this year. I encountered very few camera or control hitches, and the shaking-the-Wiimote-to-spin thing never really bothered me (I actually thought the spin attack was a good inclusion, since the angles can sometimes make jumping on enemies hit-or-miss).
I knew not to expect a headcrushingly deep storyline, since Mario's never been about that. I play Mario games for lots of creative and fun platforming, and Nintendo sure as hell didn't disappoint in that respect.
I liked the review though. Gave me some laughs, as always. Some of you may complain that it's "more of the same," but why try to fix something that already works perfectly fine?
I knew not to expect a headcrushingly deep storyline, since Mario's never been about that. I play Mario games for lots of creative and fun platforming, and Nintendo sure as hell didn't disappoint in that respect.
I liked the review though. Gave me some laughs, as always. Some of you may complain that it's "more of the same," but why try to fix something that already works perfectly fine?
I'm soooooo happy for you. Fortunately for me I don't give a shit about that "console war" and I really don't care if you think that those who play Mario deserve go to heaven or they are better persons and those who play Halo deserve to be rape by giant grasshopers with Goebbels face (in hell obviously).njsykora said:
Anyway, in my case I guess I can be described as a Butthurt Nintendrone, Xbox-owner-who-fells-into-a-narcoleptic-coma-if-I-don't-kill-anything-in-45-seconds, and a Games-are-art-hippie (yes, Psyconauts is art). I prefer that sort of schizo bahaviour rather than clasify people in top of the others just for the games they play