Revolutionaryloser said:
Whoever is defending this game probably hasn't actually played it. I had to concur with nearly everything Yahtzee said. The motion controls in particular were some of the worst I've had to endure ever. I appreciate it may not take the title for "least original game ever" but it certainly isn't escaping a "pretty unoriginal" stamp. They could have given up making these bloody games. It was forgivable the first few times but now it's just ridiculous.
itsmeyouidiot said:
I don't exactly know what you are trying to prove. Pointing out that Skyward Sword is more original than "Call of Duty, Assassin's Creed, Saints Row 3, Dead Rising 2/Off the Record, Arkham City, Gears of War 3, Uncharted 3, and even Skyrim." is just saying it's the warmest block of ice. All those games have repeatedly been called out on the fact that they are just copies of the last game in the series. That does not redeem this game from being a reskinned version of a game I played 12 years ago.
Wow. They changed ALL of the story. AND they changed 3 whole items from the ORIGINAL 1998 game. Fuck. That is perhaps a bit too much innovation.
You obviously haven't played Skyward Sword. If anything, you have played Twilight Princess and you think you played SS. But I doubt you even have a Wii. You probably just jumped on the bandwagon and hate everything that is even a bit Nintendo related.
Here is a video of those "worst" motion controls ever made.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=p_aGjL1bwN0
Riiiiiiiiiiight. They don't work at all... wait what? They work almost perfectly? Hmmmm... the video is probably fake. It must me. There is no other explanation. Gamespot said so. But lets ignore the fact that they admitted being wrong and that the controls work better than any other motion control. Ignore the fact that the player doesn't know to move his arms because he lost all body coordination during playing CoD.
You can save your pretty unoriginal stamp for every other game that came out this year but didn't get ANY hate at all.
Let me quote you
All those games have repeatedly been called out on the fact that they are just copies of the last game in the series.
Really? Skyrim got called out for being a copy of the last game in the series? I'm not sure, but I think i read somewhere that it got the GotY award from almost every site who gives those awards. Ohh poor Skyrim. Everyone hates it for being the same as Arena just bigger. They hate it so much that that they can't stop talking how
awesome awful the game is. Right?
Assassins Creed got also some rewards... hmmm... funny.
Uncharted 3... yeah... that game that Yahtzee said even tho it has many flaws, he still likes it. Lets ignore for a second that it's basically Uncharted 2 without any changes beside the terrain. That Uncharted 2 is basically Uncharted 1 which is a Prince of Persia clone with guns to make the kids in puberty think they are badass.
Face it, no other game and company is hated as Zelda and Nintendo. For no obvious reason.
A game that has everything new but keeps the nice, fuzzy, warm, well-known feeling is the same as the previous, while a game that is dumbed down with every sequel and is just bigger gets the GOTY.
IncredibleKoosh said:
What sites hate Nintendo?
Without checking I'd guess that nearly all their big 1st party releases score 85+ on Metacritic.
Even Yahtzee doesn't hate them. At least no more than anything else. In fact he openly LIKES Mario Galaxy.
As for saying that he was moaning about the motion controller 4 years ago, and that he shouldn't do it now as it's getting old... Maybe he STILL thinks that it's a badly implemented control scheme?
Well, if you look at other games that get a 9 or higher from the same site, you will notice that they aren't really fair. CoD MW 3 got a 8.5 from Gamespot while Skyward Sword got a 7.5.
Main flaws of Skyward Sword - NOTHING innovative and bad controls (but they admitted later that they where wrong and still kept the lower score for bad controls, fuck logic).
Positive about CoD MW 3 - guess what, they say it's fucking innovative. FUCKING CALL OF DUTY IS INNOVATIVE!!!!
A game that brought motion controls to a whole new level is not innovative while a reskined CoD is? Would you say that that is fair? That it was reasonable giving a lower score to Skyward Sword than to CoD? Gears of War 3? Uncharted 3?
I will not talk about Skyrim this time and it's score because I fucking love the game and I'm playing it now. But the other games that are praised so much don't deserve nothing above a 6 (which is still a above average game since 5 is the average)
Also Yahtzee liking just one Nintendo game doesn't prove him wrong. What was the last time that he said something positive about Nintendo? When the Wii was released? When the 3DS was released? When the DS was released (when everyone including Nintendo thought it's going to be a flop)?
He bitches how there is no improvement in games, how no one is doing anything to improve the gaming experience, to bring it on a whole new level. But when Nintendo releases something new that CAN bring the gaming experience on a whole new level, than he's a lazy ass hypocrite who can't move his arm for more than 20 seconds without needing to go to a clinic.
And look at the youtube video I posted. Tell me if that looks like a badly implemented control scheme.
I understand not liking the game, but people HATE it without even playing it. They HATE it for things that aren't true. They HATE it simply because it's a Nintendo game and they want to be cool for hating a game "for children".