Zero Punctuation: Tomodachi Life - Nintendo Life Simulator

[Razorback0z]

Are there prizes being handed out for defending homosexuality or something? Seems like the thing to do these days if you have a public voice. Personally Id be pretending to care about womens rights, more likely to get a root that way at least.

Geier makes a good point, there are 100 minority groups not represented in the mainstream media, I guess this is just the one that's trendy right now. "ooh look Ive got gay friends and I understand their needs".

Yeah most impressive.

 

[Johnny Novgorod]

Like a fitness simulator in which there're no fat people.

You seriously used that example for this response?

And I thought I was Asperger's.

Calling me autistic because you don't like my choice of analogy is very rude and mean, good sir. You're class of 2009, you should know your Code of Conduct by now.

 

[Razorback0z]

Like a fitness simulator in which there're no fat people.

You seriously used that example for this response?

And I thought I was Asperger's.

Calling me autistic because you don't like my choice of analogy is very rude and mean, good sir. You're class of 2009, you should know you Code of Conduct by now.

Pot/Kettle.

Read Geier's post. You may as well have called him fatass.

 

[Johnny Novgorod]

Like a fitness simulator in which there're no fat people.

You seriously used that example for this response?

And I thought I was Asperger's.

Calling me autistic because you don't like my choice of analogy is very rude and mean, good sir. You're class of 2009, you should know you Code of Conduct by now.

Pot/Kettle.

Read Geier's post. You may as well have called him fatass.

I did no such thing. He equated lack of obesity in a relationship game to a lack of possible relationships in a relationship game. All I did was explain why in my opinion that reasoning was illogical. No personal attacks were hurled.

 

[Zontar]

Wait, wasn't the reason behind the removal of gay relationships due to the fact that the same part of the program which ran them also caused save file corruption?

 

[Rebel_Raven]

Lack of LGBTQ aside, *Insert mutterings* I like the game. Yeah, there's not a ton to do, but it's oddly something that I like playing. There's a demo out now, so I suggest at least that.

Also, yeah, I lied to the game about my gender, so it could be worse. I mean make a Mii that looks like you, but the other gender, an fill in the rest as you normally would, and it's close enough. Not great, but close.

Also, I wish he included his QR code in the review.

 

[Coolblue]

I really hope this game inspires you to make a Super Smash Yahtzee All Stars game In which we can have all of your characters and imps and whatnot beat the crap out of each other at the whim of your uncaring disembodied hands.

After every match you can tell us all how our technique sucks while not pausing for breath.

Occasionally someone will land a solid upper cut and an image of Jim Sterling will appear shouting TOASTY! Just because.

Half of your idea already exists, it's called the Mii Fighters in the new Smash Bros games.

 

[Kingjackl]

That was the funniest ZP I've watched in ages. I loved the references to Mogworld and jam in there.

I want the next 'Let's Drown Out' to be of Yahtzee's Tomodachi Life game.

 

[AdagioBoognish]

Oh God, that ending credits animation!

That's so wrong and yet so hillarious.

I almost didn't watch the whole episode for not giving a shit about the game, but that animation made it worth it.

 

[Strazdas]

I'm pretty sure most people were outraged at what Nintendo did rather than how much work it would have required to do the right thing, much like with Ubisoft.

I think in both cases it was what they said once it'd started becoming a thing. The initial issue wasn't good to make them look great, but then they reached for their keyboards and typed themselves in much deeper.

oh, yes, totally.

" we fixed a bug that was deleting save files and bricking 3DS for some people"

"you fucking homophobic monsters"

 

[xyrafhoan]

Yahtzee is spot-on about this thing. This barely qualifies as a game. You feed and clothe and house your Miis and (vaguely) direct who they can or cannot be friends or "sweethearts" with, but your input is absolutely minimal. Who knows what the criteria is for various levels of friendships. Why are my Miis rolling on the ground of their apartments? Why do they have all this junk to hand out to me like they raided the local Goodwill? How could banana splits be anyone's worst food of all time?!

But it's so damn weird sometimes that you end up spending several hours watching this bizarre spectacle of your Miis hooking up and having surreal dreams and spawning mutant children. I made my tabletop group's Shadowrun characters and having my OTP hook up in the game made me unreasonably happy considering how little influence I had on anything but the proposal. I got my money's worth out of this, somehow, but this "game" should probably be free or at least sub-$10 considering every day has the same progression, just a slew of different items to collect and the possibility that more of your Miis will intermingle and do something weird for your amusement.

 

[42]

SNIP

TL;DR: Stop giving Nintendo garbage for things they're not even intending to say or do. They're not looking to hurt anyone, and they'd be better off with people like you jabbing at their backs and cutting them every time they walk out of rhythm.

^ what he said and also this
I really don't think the developers honestly went in with the intention of lets upset the LGBT community by not including same sex marriages, when clearly they were aiming the game at kids. If this is the pinnacle of LGBT rights then they're beginning to grasp at straws.

 

[Foolery]

This again, huh? I find it strange how few people are willing to take the time to acknowledge the fact that this game wasn't crafted with Western sensibilities in mind. Foreign markets are not the primary audience. It was made in Japan, for Japanese people. A country where gay marriage isn't legal and hardly spoken about.

 

[AvsJoe]

Yes but more importantly who married Slippery John? I won't be able to sleep well until I know.

I'm curious about this as well, what with him now having been cuckolded when Mr. Wonderful moved in on his comatose, non-consenting, player-character "wife".

 

[Vie]

I'm sorry, I know we are supposed to be having a constructive debate about the issues raised.

But seriously, am I the only person weirded out by Mr Penis face having a tongue - that comes out of his face penis?

 

[Zombie Badger]

I fail to see a problem with excluding LGBTQAQ. I'm obese. Just like 50% of americans and mexicans or 30% of the germans. How many games are there that let me play as a fat guy?
Ask any fat person how they are treated from others. I don't think LGBTQAQ are treated worse then fat people. Am i supposed to protest now until all games include fat people?

Because in most American states fat people are not allowed to marry.

 

[Zombie Badger]

SNIP

TL;DR: Stop giving Nintendo garbage for things they're not even intending to say or do. They're not looking to hurt anyone, and they'd be better off with people like you jabbing at their backs and cutting them every time they walk out of rhythm.

^ what he said and also this
I really don't think the developers honestly went in with the intention of lets upset the LGBT community by not including same sex marriages, when clearly they were aiming the game at kids. If this is the pinnacle of LGBT rights then they're beginning to grasp at straws.

The problem wasn't that the game didn't have gay relationships in the first place, it was that after they removed them (they were added by a bug) their response was an extremely patronising, "We we were only trying to make a whimsically fun game, not political commentary", thereby implying that gay people are restricted from ever being whimsical fun and that acknowledging their existence constitutes a political statement.

Imagine if this was about the subject of race, for contrast. If a Nintendo life sim had only been designed with white characters and then a glitch allowed black people, but Nintendo's response was 'We didn't include black people because it wasn't meant to make political commentary'.

 

[Pebkio]

Oh this isn't a video game. It's a screensaver that requires input from you on occasion. It's like if that old maze thing people used to think was so cool had a pop up whenever it was done exploring each dead end to ask if you'd like it to move on to the next level that looks exactly the same.

 

[Coolblue]

This again, huh? I find it strange how few people are willing to take the time to acknowledge the fact that this game wasn't crafted with Western sensibilities in mind. Foreign markets are not the primary audience. It was made in Japan, for Japanese people. A country where gay marriage isn't legal and hardly spoken about.

EXACTLY! And the fact that people are willing to fully ignore this and try and tear down Nintendo is just fucking garbage. Yeah, keep tearing away at Nintendo for every little god damn slip up that they fucking make after they've gotten your message. See how much more money and respect and shit that'll get them once they start following what you said and are making themselves better for everyone, and after your hands are bloody little stumps from STILL scratching at the same old point when they've already taken care of that point and you still haven't let up about it. The hate for Nintendo just needs to stop. Because they are listening, and they ARE trying to do better. Everyone needs to just back the fuck up and let Nintendo do their job.

Also, on a completely-unrelated-but-sorta-related-note, anyone else disappointed that Yahtzee didn't bring up the box art? I mean I thought that warranted a joke/mention all by itself.

 

[Erttheking]

Wait, wasn't the reason behind the removal of gay relationships due to the fact that the same part of the program which ran them also caused save file corruption?

Yeah, but that thing was actually an exploit. Homosexuality was never in the original game to begin with, which some people took issue with.