Zero Punctuation: Webcomics
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Good review, although CAD can be funny (Go Chef Brian!) and my personal fav is still PVP Online. Thumbs up, Yahtzee.
I don't *dislike* CAD; it's occasionally amusing enough to be worth the 10 seconds it takes to read it- but that was an awesome video. Seriously, the whole miscarriage thing was incredibly misguided. I also see a VG Cats swipe there, which is also deserved. VG Cats has had some true moments of brilliance, but it's been a long time since it was anything but filler.
There's nothing wrong with a serious storyline, and CAD had potential with the miscarriage.
However, everything is wrong when said storylines are dealt with in a completely fucked up manner, swerving between HAHAZANY and OHGODWERESERIOUS panels. That kind of schizophrenic writing is not deep or original - it's just sloppy and badly done. Sadly, you make that kind of remark and you're accused of "not getting" CAD.
However, everything is wrong when said storylines are dealt with in a completely fucked up manner, swerving between HAHAZANY and OHGODWERESERIOUS panels. That kind of schizophrenic writing is not deep or original - it's just sloppy and badly done. Sadly, you make that kind of remark and you're accused of "not getting" CAD.
I must say that I disagree with his opinion on webcomics. I'll admit that there are many, many, bad webcomics out there. Such as the entirety of DrunkDuck.com's collection. However, I am a fan of a few webcomics, particularly CTRL ALT DEL, which Yahtzee seems to rag on a fair bit. I'm also a fan of MegaTokyo.
For the hundreds of badly made, no effort involved, webcomics "MegaMan and Kirby Neo X 2099" and such, there are one or two good webcomics which are actually good. I'd highly recommend Purgatory Tower as a prime example.
It seems that lately, all Yahtzee seems to do is try to annoy as many people as possible, to get his popularity up - after all, controversy sells. This has been true for Metal Gear Solid 4, The World Ends With You, and Super Smash Brothers Brawl. I do feel that this is going a step too far though as he's throwing every webcomic, ever, into the same pot and trying to claim they're all the same.
For the hundreds of badly made, no effort involved, webcomics "MegaMan and Kirby Neo X 2099" and such, there are one or two good webcomics which are actually good. I'd highly recommend Purgatory Tower as a prime example.
It seems that lately, all Yahtzee seems to do is try to annoy as many people as possible, to get his popularity up - after all, controversy sells. This has been true for Metal Gear Solid 4, The World Ends With You, and Super Smash Brothers Brawl. I do feel that this is going a step too far though as he's throwing every webcomic, ever, into the same pot and trying to claim they're all the same.
...except that Yahtzee is actually funny and not just a attention-whoring dick who doesn't know when to write one sentence about something and when to write four paragraphs.portuga-man said:
So it's perfectly fine for him to rag on something if it doesn't have a legion of fans that see nothing wrong with the game? <_<SamW89 said:
I have to say that I was quite disappointed with this week's feature. Up until now, I was amused by Yahtzee's reviews very much, even if I disagreed with some of them (Painkiller a good game? WTH?), but this was somewhat arrogant. Is there some personal history behind the authors of Zero Punctuation and CAD? Because I have not yet found any reason Tim to be "Up his ass" or "A twat"- He writes mostly enjoyable web comics which are simpler than PA (Which is at places too abstract and weird for my personal tastes), and from his blog he seems to be quite a normal guy. If this is only about adding drama to CAD, it's even more appaling and elitist- The miscarriage relevation was very tastefully done, had buildup and was indeed sad. There's nothing wrong about that, because he had a girlfriend once who miscarried and simply wanted to process this in his comic even before he finished the story arc. He does not need any reason to change the comic akin to this for a period of time, so I do not see what the bashing is for. Let those who have fun reading it enjoy it, and those who dislike it ignore it. Hate and disrespect should not spread. I thought Yahtzee was smarter than that to join that gang. ANd i take that no one watched Scrubs around here? It is indeed possible to mix drama with humour. Ever heard of tragic comedies?
My god yes. Frankly CAD has always been rubbish, but the point of this wasn't CAD at all, it was the legion of dross that seeps across the internet masquerading as humour, or maybe art.
While I've never burst into uncontrollable laughter over cad its had its moments of humour in the past but sadly they're as rare as finding diamonds in your toilet. PA is genious, cad is like the newer simpsons eps, smart people know its shit but the morons are still going to love it.
What is the point of attacking those who read it? It's a one-page webcomic with four panels! You read it, get a few chuckles out of-(Or not) and forget about it. It's not as elaborate as, say, the Simpsons, which, I agree, did get shit recently. So, where can I find any indication of Tim's uber-ego? I may lack background info to see this in the big picture.
http://www.duelinganalogs.com/comic/2008/02/11/the-control-alt-delete-theorem/
Don't know if that has already been posted, but digging through 13 pages doesn't sound like a wise time investment.
Don't know if that has already been posted, but digging through 13 pages doesn't sound like a wise time investment.
Well i'm not one to bother posting on any forum very often but having read all your reviews since you started I thought it was about time I posted.
I generally don't have the time for gaming a lot at the moment but I do read a number of web comics and Zero Punctuation each week and frankly I have to say thanks for poking at CAD for the god awful miscarriage story arc... not that CAD is great but its on my list of ten or so online comics I visist now and then and its lost the plot to be honest.
Web comics are really meant to be funny shorts which can have some story arc but not loose its self in them. And if your a gaming comic which is light hearted, miscarriage is the last thing I'd want to read about... and the abortion pre-story, sweet god no!
What I like is Penny Arcade, PvPonline, The Adventures of Dr McNinja and Looking For Group, there are others but there are the best four, each does things very differently but all keep me hooked each week. Don't know if people agree? but these are how I think people should make webcomics.
Oh and may i say as another mean hearted English git; keep it honest, keep it mean Yahzee, and I'll keep turning in!
I generally don't have the time for gaming a lot at the moment but I do read a number of web comics and Zero Punctuation each week and frankly I have to say thanks for poking at CAD for the god awful miscarriage story arc... not that CAD is great but its on my list of ten or so online comics I visist now and then and its lost the plot to be honest.
Web comics are really meant to be funny shorts which can have some story arc but not loose its self in them. And if your a gaming comic which is light hearted, miscarriage is the last thing I'd want to read about... and the abortion pre-story, sweet god no!
What I like is Penny Arcade, PvPonline, The Adventures of Dr McNinja and Looking For Group, there are others but there are the best four, each does things very differently but all keep me hooked each week. Don't know if people agree? but these are how I think people should make webcomics.
Oh and may i say as another mean hearted English git; keep it honest, keep it mean Yahzee, and I'll keep turning in!
