No, seriously, CAD sucks
(And Tim Buckley's an arrogant jagoff)
http://encyclopediadramatica.com/Tim_buckley
(And Tim Buckley's an arrogant jagoff)
http://encyclopediadramatica.com/Tim_buckley
Zero Punctuation: Webcomics
- Thread starter Yahtzee Croshaw
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Order of the Stick. That comic was the essence was well-executed Cerebus Syndrome (the term for the humor-to-drama). It added a more serious plot, fleshed out the characters, but perhaps most importantly, STAYED FUNNY. Actually, it may have become MORE funny after it added the DRAMA?. Also, it didn't jump into it in just one strip, but rather it was a gradual change. Managing to stay funny while adding DRAMA? is tricky, but is very possible. Order of the Stick is living proof.sandswipe said:
Let's compare Ctrl+Alt+Del. Before the DRAMA? happened, it was a fairly lighthearted comic. Suddenly, something as gravely serious as a miscarriage is thrown in seemingly out of nowhere. This might have worked if not for the fact it went back to wacky gaming strips shortly afterward. The juxtaposition of a comic with a very serious story line with purely random comics doesn't work. THAT'S what ruined the miscarriage arc, before anything else: You can't have something as gravely serious as a miscarriage come out of nowhere and then get back to Dungeons & Dragons humor two strips later.
In the end, the biggest problem with the miscarriage is how out of place it felt. You can have curveballs like that if you've already established DRAMA? at least somewhat in your strip, but throwing in said curveballs out of nowhere constitutes a Wall Banger.
I'm not certain why you write off its fans as "morons", but then again I have never understood the hatred towards the "new episodes" of The Simpsons. Sure, they're not as good as some of the older ones, but it's still funny and better than most of the stuff on TV.LazyAza said:
At less than a minute in, it was clear this was about CAD. I'm not even done the video, and he's listed all the major characteristics of that abomination.
Out of gaming comics I really like Fanboys. It does follow the two-boys-one-girl-and-she's-the-mc's-girlfriend, but it still manages to feel more fresh then any of the other gaming comics I've read. First off, the main character is not based on the creator (though I guess he looks vaguely like him) and all of the other characters feel well-rounded and human.
The drama is light, and the characters like to flaunt their respective stereotype.
The drama is light, and the characters like to flaunt their respective stereotype.
Except for PvP, I agree completely. Dr McNinja is the best thing ever. ("Yeah...you're adorable. You've inspired me. I'm gonna paint an adorable little bunny rabbit on the wall right now. With your adorable blood.")LordMonty said:
I guess i'm the only one who finds it sad a grown man spent time to make a video to explain to everyone how much he hates a webcomic. But then again, i also find it sad that South Park is still on TV while Firefly was canceled after one season. Obviously there is no God nor is there an ounce of justice in the universe, thus explaining Yhatzee's popularity, South Park's continued existence and Sara Silverman being born, all at once.
Uh...yes?
I knew if i said i hated South Park someone would flame me. Well let me shock you again, i hate Penny Arcade too. It's about as funny as a kick to the head. But then i find 99% of all webcomics earthshatteringly unfunny.
VG Cats is hit or miss though, but i'm not a fan of it either.
Oh i guess my internet ego should be wounded. Wait let me find it...
I knew if i said i hated South Park someone would flame me. Well let me shock you again, i hate Penny Arcade too. It's about as funny as a kick to the head. But then i find 99% of all webcomics earthshatteringly unfunny.
VG Cats is hit or miss though, but i'm not a fan of it either.
Oh i guess my internet ego should be wounded. Wait let me find it...
I'm an intensely humble man, Arntor. In fact i'm practically a God of humility, i'm so humble Jesus and Ghandi both came to me to learn how to be humble. I'm so humble, i scare Mother Theressa, she's like "Whoa, dude, simmer down! Save some for the rest of us!" and i'm like, "Go back and tend to orphans, newb!"
Anyway...seriously though, i just find these "internet rivalries" to be childish in the extreme. CAD may not be funny, but neither are staggeringly obvious "parodies". And neither is Sara Silverman. Which is not to say i dont appreciate the irony of two grown men tossing insults back and forth across the ether of the interwebs like High Schoolers quarelling over a girl...i guess thats funny.
Anyway...seriously though, i just find these "internet rivalries" to be childish in the extreme. CAD may not be funny, but neither are staggeringly obvious "parodies". And neither is Sara Silverman. Which is not to say i dont appreciate the irony of two grown men tossing insults back and forth across the ether of the interwebs like High Schoolers quarelling over a girl...i guess thats funny.
Ah yes, because that immediately makes it bad, and even though you have no idea what it is you are obviously an authority to talk about it. I understand now. I see it clearly for the first time. Thank you for taking the scales from my eyes.Triffid said:
Enough about trolls lets talk about the subject matter.
This review was crap for the same reason about 90% of modenr parody movies are crap. There is a fine line between making light of a subject and being a prick, and Yhatzee planted himself on the prick side of the line ages ago.
He says he's aware of the hypocritical nature of it all but he clearly isnt, he seems to genuinely believe that he's funny or witty. As someone said WAY back about, oh, three pages ago...most of his reviews are complete BS. If you own these games you'll understand but he takes small problems and seems to imply they take up a whole game, and otherwise makes up problems out of whole cloth (the supposedly "slipery" controls of Turok, which werent, for example). I think he seems to have leapt onto the AVGN's bandwagon without noticing that the Nerd is being self-consciously ironic, and not serious. In effect, Yhatzee IS an angry video game nerd, only he's not playing a character he really is one.
Is it funny? Yeah sometimes. Other times the open dishonesty of some of the "reviews" is simply too much to deal with. And then there's this. I've never read CAD but the word on the interwebs is that Yhatzee and Buckley are rivals. I find this just hilarious. I'm reminded of high school, where two pawing, friendless dorks would try and cling to a little rivalry or something and toss spitballs at one another from across the class. It was childish and stupid then and it's even more so when the two dorks are grown men. But thats the one truism found in Penny Arcade...normal people, given the obscuring mists of the internet, become Jeckyl and Hyde when they realize no one can really retaliate.
I'm sure flames will rain down on me for saying this, of course. I guess i should be...scared or whatever. But i'm sorry, having both a girlfriend and functional genetals i simply dont care to put up with such High School 'tardery. I graduated, i did my time.
This review was crap for the same reason about 90% of modenr parody movies are crap. There is a fine line between making light of a subject and being a prick, and Yhatzee planted himself on the prick side of the line ages ago.
He says he's aware of the hypocritical nature of it all but he clearly isnt, he seems to genuinely believe that he's funny or witty. As someone said WAY back about, oh, three pages ago...most of his reviews are complete BS. If you own these games you'll understand but he takes small problems and seems to imply they take up a whole game, and otherwise makes up problems out of whole cloth (the supposedly "slipery" controls of Turok, which werent, for example). I think he seems to have leapt onto the AVGN's bandwagon without noticing that the Nerd is being self-consciously ironic, and not serious. In effect, Yhatzee IS an angry video game nerd, only he's not playing a character he really is one.
Is it funny? Yeah sometimes. Other times the open dishonesty of some of the "reviews" is simply too much to deal with. And then there's this. I've never read CAD but the word on the interwebs is that Yhatzee and Buckley are rivals. I find this just hilarious. I'm reminded of high school, where two pawing, friendless dorks would try and cling to a little rivalry or something and toss spitballs at one another from across the class. It was childish and stupid then and it's even more so when the two dorks are grown men. But thats the one truism found in Penny Arcade...normal people, given the obscuring mists of the internet, become Jeckyl and Hyde when they realize no one can really retaliate.
I'm sure flames will rain down on me for saying this, of course. I guess i should be...scared or whatever. But i'm sorry, having both a girlfriend and functional genetals i simply dont care to put up with such High School 'tardery. I graduated, i did my time.