Zero Punctuation: Yakuza 4

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LCP

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A1 said:
LCP said:
Hehehe, but then again, Japanese ARE into some weird shit
Okay. There are at least two things about that statement that are problematic. First, it's too general. It insinuates that all Japanese people are "into some weird shit" or in other words they all have the same tastes. That's quite frankly getting borderline racist.

And second it's worth noting that there is probably a decent chance that many people in Japan think similar things about people who live in other countries, if you catch my drift.
My mistake, i meant some...

Although certain sections on certain numbered websites, specially one being the 4th letter of the alphabet is troublesome
 

plugav

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Bare-chested fist fights on top of tall buildings? The Japanese must be really into that. Wasn't it also the end of that Freudian porn game, Metal Gear Solid 4?
 

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Okay, but why is that of all the far east Japan is the most that stands out. No North Korea is not bizarre, Kim Jong-il is.
Because other eastern countries don't have as many cultural imports as Japan.

Know how not all Politicians are corrupt... in fact most of them aren't? And yet they have that reputation, why? Because the ones you DO hear about make the most noise.
 

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randommaster said:
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It'd be "I study German," I believe. I don't recall Yahtzee ever saying anything about stydying anything from Germany, though.
Germanistik = "German" (implying literature and linguistics) or "German Studies" (implying history and cultural studies), depending on the focus of the academic department in question.

SFR said:
The little disclaimer was there not because Yatzee thought he'd offend someone without out it, but instead because it was funny. Stark contrast=humor.
Actually, I think only the second part is the joke. Stark contrasts often do prompt humor, but the disaster was so serious and the review is so mocking that it's in everyone's best interests to state the limits of the criticism clearly. I appreciated it, and I still thought the review was great fun.
 

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I've always found the best way to enjoy the plot of a Yakuza game is to have a friend with you and laugh together through all the cutscenes. It's absolutely mind-boggling how insane the stories can get without the writers ever seeming to notice.

Oh, and the whole "visual novel" thing makes much much more sense when you realize that they're supposed to be digital choose-your-own-adventure books rather than games. People who play them always insist to me that some of them have really good stories, but I remain skeptical.
 

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Misho- said:
I would like to get into the Yakuza franchise, but I'm hesitant to go pick every Yakuza game evar just to get who's who.
Actually, you don't have to pick up the previous games to get caught up. All of the games in this series aside from the first one have a special "reminisce" option that shows you special movie sequences that summarize the events of previous games if you wish it. And besides, three out of the four playable characters in this game are new characters that don't appear in any of the previous games.
 

Tjoubou

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Extremely good review. I haven't played the yakuza-games but it seems that you've summarized them for me :p
 

Misho-

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A1 said:
Misho- said:
I would like to get into the Yakuza franchise, but I'm hesitant to go pick every Yakuza game evar just to get who's who.
Actually, you don't have to pick up the previous games to get caught up. All of the games in this series aside from the first one have a special "reminisce" option that shows you special movie sequences that summarize the events of previous games if you wish it. And besides, three out of the four playable characters in this game are new characters that don't appear in any of the previous games.
That's coo.

My previous experience was seeing one the first games thru the window and the demo last year for Yakuza 3 (which was hilarious in its own way and made me love the series). But yeah, that sounds nice :)
 

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brazuca said:
A1 said:
LCP said:
Hehehe, but then again, Japanese ARE into some weird shit
Okay. There are at least two things about that statement that are problematic. First, it's too general. It insinuates that all Japanese people are "into some weird shit" or in other words they all have the same tastes. That's quite frankly getting borderline racist.

And second it's worth noting that there is probably a decent chance that many people in Japan think similar things about people who live in other countries, if you catch my drift.
Okay, but why is that of all the far east Japan is the most that stands out. No North Korea is not bizarre, Kim Jong-il is.
It does seem that Japan is a very distinctive nation in more ways than one doesn't it? And I certainly don't mean that in a bad way. But as for why this is, I can't say that I know. I'm not even sure if many people living in Japan know. Does anyone really know why you are the way you are? That does seem to be a very good question and it's unlikely to have an easy and/or simple answer.
 

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Bwahahahaa -- nice opening loved it! "Japanese are into some crazy shit!" right after a heartfelt balanced statement over the recent tragedy -- ah Yahtzee you cheeky bastard -- Another good quote "sumptuous fruit basket for your fist" -- Milk. Nose. Mess. I wasn't going to buy this game anyways - having watched the earlier Escapist review -- but now I am definitely not. I don't want to read the bottom of my tv for the sake of "realism". Realism where I am a kung fu god single handling kicking the ass off of everyone as long as I am in the right place to do it. Pshhhfft. Meh.
It's not about "realism" as few if any video games are truly realistic, it's about authenticity. When a game takes place in Japan it's only logical that the people actually speak Japanese.

And Kung Fu is Chinese, not Japanese.
Wow thanks for that. So a game that's not realistic (as few games are) needs to be authentic? Well that makes sense, when it's actually a game and I am waggling thumb sticks. Surely the game would have been ruined to have the English option. Don't mistake authenticity for cheaping out on additional voice acting... Technically, if you want the experience to be authentic there shouldn't be subtitles... I don't believe subtitles pop under folks in Tokyo while they are talking. I guess you are taking exception to the my use of the word "realism" and instead prefer authenticity -- for me and for the purpose of what I was saying the two could be interchangeable.

An on the Kung Fu thing being Chinese. You best get on Yahtzee for that -- check out 01:22 of the video. That's what he called it.

Edit: http://thesaurus.com/browse/realism

Main Entry: realism
Part of Speech: noun
Definition: authenticity
Synonyms: naturalness, reality, truth, verisimilitude, verism, verity
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Needed more imps but other than that it was a great review. I see why he did the statement in the beginning. It probably saved him a lot of trouble from having to respond to whatever "politically correct" wingbat pops out from under the nearest rock and proceeds to defecate on his jokes. Basically a CMA. It sucks that you had to do it Yahtzee.... You were probably forced to or something.
 

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jack583 said:
"constable blimy chips"
hate to say it, but i'd play that.
I was just going to ask if I was the only one who thought that sounded like an awesome game... Something along the lines of an open world game of the Rivers of London books maybe.
 

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redbeta22 said:
Why are Japanese games full of weird reaction noises? Wah? Huh? I've always thought they were there because of the translation from Japanese to English, but if they're in the Japanese VO as well? Could somebody explain?
I think it's both a question of culture and language. In Japanese, you often leave out the subject of a sentence, in particular if you are the subject yourself. Japanese people are encouraged (or stimulated if you prefer a more technical term) to be reserved in public-- in Finland, really in all of northern Scandinavia, they have a very similar cultural stimuli. Northern dialects of Swedish and Finnish, and to some extent Norweigan, also have many empty interjections-- but together with subject omission it actually says alot more than you might think. Japanese is spoken in a very context-sensitive way, as are many dialects in northern Scandinavia. They have in common that they sometimes omit entire sentence structures for a few words, often ended by a single morpheme (a "noise").

However, many of the weird reaction noises are also a matter of style. The style in Japanese games, comics and the weird "live action anime" film genre have some pretty strong stereotypes-- all the empty interjections and incessant "boku wa~~" aren't how most adult Japanese people speak....

But, hey, do YOU speak like a video-game character?
 

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zombie711 said:
does anyone get a "God hand" vibe from this game.

PS what is a hostess club?
Cute.
It is a club in to which you go in, pay yourself broke in order to get a girl to sit next to you, drink with you, sing karaoke or what ever you consider as entertainment. Rules are simple, youa re not allowed to touch the girls, they just sit next to you, flirt with you and so on. And they get paid well! Specially if they fit to the clients desires.
 

zombie711

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SinisterGehe said:
zombie711 said:
does anyone get a "God hand" vibe from this game.

PS what is a hostess club?
Cute.
It is a club in to which you go in, pay yourself broke in order to get a girl to sit next to you, drink with you, sing karaoke or what ever you consider as entertainment. Rules are simple, youa re not allowed to touch the girls, they just sit next to you, flirt with you and so on. And they get paid well! Specially if they fit to the clients desires.
that sounds Kinda stupid.