Zero Punctuation: Zack & Wiki: Quest for Barbaros' Treasure

DarthTirith

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Fantastic review, nice to see you do more Wii games. Looking forward to Brawl (Like the rest of the world) and Rock Band. You get two thumbs up for LOOM (Which is god) along with Monkey Island.
 

Stardude82

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Darn it somebody beat me to bring up Loom.
("I'm Bobbin Threadbare. Are you my mother?" -Guybrush Threepwood)

Anyways, what about all the innovative action-adventure games which nobody bought like Psychonauts or Beyond Good and Evil. As for Graphic Adventure Games, the new adventures of Sam and Max are pretty spiffy.

I don't think the genre is dead. I think it is worse than dead; it is unprofitable. The big knock ever since Quake has been the lack of replay value these games have had. It is the reason why Lucas Arts is now nothing more than an organ to perpetuate the popularity of a mediocre sci-fi brand. Well, that and to make boatloads of money. (Well, okay maybe KOTOR was the best RPG since FO2.)

Phantasmagoria was bad and I did hate the other Sierra GAG's.
 

DarthTirith

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Do note that KOTOR was done by Bioware (Then that other company for the second game), I don't think lucasarts did much more then lend Bioware their cash cow.
 

Ninja Dodo

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For the uninitiated: 'Newspaper under door to get key' is the mother of all adventuring clichés. It was a joke.

Xenoveritas said:
It's been out in the US for over a month as Apollo Justice Ace Attorney.
I stand corrected. It's not yet available in the old world anyway as far as I'm aware.

I think the fact that saying stupid things in court can make you lose the case adds an appropriate level of tension and with the 'health bar' there doesn't frequently result in immediate doom. The logic of the game is usually sound. It's only when you're trying to express the correct idea but are unable to find the way the game expects you to do it that it occasionally falls apart.

... but this is a common problem in adventure games.

As for Apollo Justice, I guess I'll have to see how it stacks up myself after I finish playing Trials and Tribulations.
 

solidprecedence

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As to a good adventure game where one has that puzzle where you stick a piece of paper under a door and poke the key out of the lock...

There is one I fondly remember through rose tinted glasses. Who remembers: Hugo's House of Horrors 2 (Yes, two) AKA "Whodunit?"
 

Uszi

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Kongatron said:
Uszi said:
Podcasts are fairly useless, IMO.
Und why would that be?
I personally don't find the easiest way to have ZP reviews on your iPod useless, but hey, if you'd care to make some points, I'd be happy to listen.
Huh?
After rethinking my opinion I realized that I am one of the few people I know who leaves their iPod in the car when it isn't updating. I suppose if you always had your iPod on you, and you were craving some Yahtzee in your life, it would be worthwhile.

Personally, I don't know that I would have both my iPod on me and a craving for ZP at the same time.

I also was never really into pod casts--I subscribed to Ask a Ninja and Happy Tree Friends, but then I only really watched them on my computer, and only watched each one a piece.

So I guess I should qualify my opinion: If you like podcasts, and carry your iPod around a lot, then I guess it would be cool. How many people do though?
 

Terramax

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The puzzle he was referring to at the end was from Broken Sword III: Sleeping Dragon... if anyone's wondering.

How many people like Podcasts? well, lets check how popular the concept is becoming. If no-one did, it would be at a point of decline. But no, its at a point of growth, still. So the answer would be, quite a lot.

And how may people carry their Mp3 with them a lot? I'd say, all of us. Thats what it was made for, genius, portable high volume of data in a playable form. You should probably stick with C.D.s if you leave it in the car.

So the market for this would be pretty huge.
Not at all. They're presumably cheap, if not free to make, and provide cheap or free advertising. If you put an advert on youtube you may only get 10 hits in a year, and maybe only one bought the product, but as it cost you zilch to upload the video advert on there, it was worth it to a degree.

I for one don't know a single person who listens to podcasts.
 

Uszi

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Indigo_Dingo said:
And how may people carry their Mp3 with them a lot? I'd say, all of us. Thats what it was made for, genius, portable high volume of data in a playable form.
And I'd say I can think of a lot of people who only use it when they are going for a jog, walking to class, or driving in the car. In those cases, many of those people specifically want to listen to music for those activities. In that sense, I'd disagree: definitely not all of you carry it around all the time. Unless things are different in Australia.

Or one thing I had in mind when I made my original post:
If you want an uncomfortable experience, then put in your ear-buds and listen to something funny in a public place. If you're walking down the street, laughing historically at say, Mitch Hedberg, everyone else will give you a very strange, uncomfortable look, questioning your sanity.
So I know that I, and many other people, usually save funny material for when you're by yourself or in the company of some friends.

You should probably stick with C.D.s if you leave it in the car.
Cheaper, less work, easier to organize if I forgo CDs.

So the market for this would be pretty huge.
As huge as there are ZP fans who have portable devices who would want to carry ZP around with them all the time.
 

cutekittenkyti

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*walks off in a huff*
no one liked my transcript D:

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jk

ok ok I admit i made mistakes :p
I didn't use common sense in some situations and I DO know what GameFAQs are, I've just never heard it pronounced that way...
I hole out in my room too much...

and plus I made that transcript in like 15 min...


And yes sometimes I can't understand Yahtzee because
A.) I have a Mid western accent thicker then a Cheesehead
B.) In case you haven't noticed Yahtzee talks fast
C.) People who are not native english speakers, but can read english (like one of my best online friends) Can barely understand Yahtzee and so miss out on the whole expierience.

Hence why I wanted to make a transcript...
and the spat through a spanish translator thing...
 

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Planeforger said:
As for Zack and Wiki...I dunno, I guess I prefer adventure games with more plot and less cheap deaths - but it certainly felt rewarding when I finally got the little bastards through each puzzle.
The multitudinous ways to die in Zack & Wiki don't really matter too much, because the individual stages are so short, you never actually lose very much progress.
 

Uszi

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Nah, cutekittenkyti, your transcript was good, but in need of edits.
 

Lee Christie

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cutekittenkyti said:
I DO know what GameFAQs are, I've just never heard it pronounced that way...
I seriously doubt Yahtzee says it like that normally, he pronounces things weird for comic effect sometimes. (See The Witcher: "This is a MUMORPUGER!")
 

damacus

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Tex Murphy: Under a Killing Moon! Yes! I remember that game with much love. The first time I played it I was simply blown away by the multimedia. The levels were like a new world.. felt very free. It was the second adventure game I played, second to Police Quest 4: Open Season. I miss some games like that. I also really liked the Gabriel Knight series..

LOL'd at the UND PRECICELY VON comment. So true in some of those games.

Ahh.. nostalgia. Would like to see a new contender that really fits in atmosphere and mixes puzzles with action.. but it seems like these days we really can't get that in one game. We have MMORPGs with stats and quests, first person shooters with a bunch of action, and 3rd person shooters with atmosphere and action, but not as much in the puzzle sense. (Max Payne 2 was great in that respect.)

Guess it's just a hard genre.

PS -- Love your work Yahtzee. Keep it coming!