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This news would be exciting if it wasn't for CP2077 launch. I love the game as it is, but I think we can all agree that the launch was a disaster and the development leading up to the launch was shocking.

AND they are partnering with Epic? I'm smelling something worse than CP2077 here
I don't know. Cyberpunk certainly hurt their credibility quite a bit. But hopefully the studio learned the lessons from it and can pull back to bring a better title. This game is like a 2030 release anyway at best so it's nothing to get excited for or anything like that. All we can hope for is a good game and they'll either deliver that or they wont.
 

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I don't know. Cyberpunk certainly hurt their credibility quite a bit. But hopefully the studio learned the lessons from it and can pull back to bring a better title. This game is like a 2030 release anyway at best so it's nothing to get excited for or anything like that. All we can hope for is a good game and they'll either deliver that or they wont.
And you bet your ass, there are people who will already try to pull a forgive and forget situation or try to pretend like the Cyberpunk, disaster was not that bad. I can already see the boot lickers and genital suckers now.
 

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And you bet your ass, there are people who will already try to pull a forgive and forget situation or try to pretend like the Cyberpunk, disaster was not that bad. I can already see the boot lickers and genital suckers now.
I mean one bad game doesn't ruin a studio for everyone. So what would you have people do? Forever shun the studio because they made a bad game, that they did patch and fix as much as possible?

Fallout 76 sucks dick, but if Starfield ends up being amazing you bet people will forgive and forget Bethesda. A studio is only as good as their last game. And if the Witcher 4 ends up incredible, then Cyberpunk will be completely forgotten, that's how this shit works.
 

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I mean one bad game doesn't ruin a studio for everyone
Ahahaha!

So what would you have people do? Forever shun the studio because they made a bad game, that they did patch and fix as much as possible?
I didn't say for them to be shunned. They're supposed to stay on the alert, but a majority of them will not do that. They'll try to pass it off as water under the bridge, forgive and forget, or "it's in the past or old news". And I called out this mentality years ago. I remember people were panicking and giving me crap back on the old version of the site, because I said things weren't looking right with all the delays, and the rumors of the crunch for started around 2016 and 2017. Even you gave me somebody to grief over it at the time. From what I remember.

Fallout 76 sucks dick, but if Starfield ends up being amazing you get people will forgive and forget Bethesda. A studio is only as good as their last game. And if the Witcher 4 ends up incredible, then Cyberpunk will be completely forgotten, that's how this shit works.
Bad comparison and analogy. Bethesda has not even tried for years. Their mainline Elder Scrolls/Fallout games has been running on the same out of date engine since 2007/08. I definitely don't trust Todd Howard's lies. And Todd Howard has lied and made false promises more than he cares to count. Regardless if it dealt with Elder Scrolls, Fallout, or not.

I don't care if Witcher 4 is incredible or not, I don't trust the people in charge of CDK. If you have a problem with it, too bad. If you want to blindly and foolishly jump in, that is no one fault but your own. I'm not saying you are, but that you in this case are to the gaming audience in general. Now, if you personally believe everything will turn out fine, then shame on you for being fooled twice.
 
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r "it's in the past or old news". And I called out this mentality years ago.
I mean this is just people in general. It's why people live on Earthquake faults and under Volcanos. People never think the "next time" will happen to them. And when it comes to entertainment products it's even worse. Look at Sonic fans, they constantly get shit but every time a new game is announced they get all blue about it.

Back comparison and analogy. Bethesda has not even tried for years. Their mainline Elder Scrolls/Fallout games has been running on the same out of date engine since 2007/08. I definitely don't trust Todd Howard's lies. And Todd Howard has lied and made false promises more than he cares to count. Regardless if it dealt with Elder Scrolls, Fallout, or not.
And yet you know damn well people will be praising the sun if Starfield is good.

I don't care if Witcher 4 is incredible or not, I don't trust the people in charge of CDK.
This doesn't matter if you trust the studio or not. All the matters is the game that comes out. A good game made under bad management is still a good game. A bad game under good management is still a bad game. The circumstances of the game's creation do not matter to the consumer.
 

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And when it comes to entertainment products it's even worse. Look at Sonic fans, they constantly get shit but every time a new game is announced they get all blue about it.
Sucks to be them. It's exactly why I enjoyed the games I wanted to enjoy, and never got too deep in the fandom. The fans can't take all ty blame, Sega has plenty of moments where the process feeds into itself. They are just as responsible.

mean this is just people in general. It's why people live on Earthquake faults and under Volcanos. People never think the "next time" will happen to them.
It's called being better or...
I prefer being better and learn something. They don't want to learn, have fun being disappointed again, again, again, again, again, again, and again.

This doesn't matter if you trust the studio or not.
And that's where you're wrong. It does matter. To me and to those I care about it, doesn't matter to you "in the grand scheme of things". It doesn't matter to the ones in charge "in the grand scheme of things". It doesn't matter when they don't care about the overall quality of their product.

Relevant.

The circumstances of the game's creation do not matter to the consumer.
It does matter to the consumer, you're just obliviously naive and being blind to their lies. Lies you've been fed your whole life. Not my problem if it's taken you this long to figure it out. The consumer does matter, cuz we are the one buying these products or not. We are the true arbiters, despite whatever gamestop, some game journalism site, some idiotic YouTube critics, or the publishers and developers themselves. And I choose not to to buy certain games fot specific reasons. And if other consumers can't figure that out this white me giving warnings and giving them heads up, that's their problem they have no one to blame but themselves. I gave the warnings, but I won't cry.
 
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To CDPR's credit, although they are partnering with Epic, the game won't be an EGS exlcusive:

This makes sense, considering they own GOG and they probably saw bigger sales on steam, and it would be a massive shitstorm if the game isn't released on either platform
 

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To CDPR's credit, although they are partnering with Epic, the game won't be an EGS exlcusive:

This makes sense, considering they own GOG and they probably saw bigger sales on steam, and it would be a massive shitstorm if the game isn't released on either platform
Keyword there is "planning". Companies have said that shit before, only for the plan to change apparently.
 

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More details sans Twitter -

As long as the new owners of CDPR stay the fuck out of the way of the game’s development, I’ll remain cautiously optimistic about this. I’m all for Ciri or someone else to take the playable lead as well. Please, no switching characters though for flashbacks. It’s not helping anything that a cutscene wouldn’t.
 

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Don't you want to experience "real human emotions", and see the "grey areas" for over 18 hours?!
As if the game ain’t long enough. It would’ve been more interesting to have a Witcher sense mechanic that could be developed with the more clues you find, where it’s like piecing together her whereabouts vs just blatantly giving Ciri a bunch of one-note gameplay sequences.
 
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This news would be exciting if it wasn't for CP2077 launch. I love the game as it is, but I think we can all agree that the launch was a disaster and the development leading up to the launch was shocking.

AND they are partnering with Epic? I'm smelling something worse than CP2077 here
Imagine if it's a new character. Cue all the fans howling that they want more Geralt and that (insert new character here) is just pandering to (insert special interest group here).

Imagine if it's Geralt. Cue all the fans howling that they want something new and CDPR can't innovate and is just resting on their laurels.
 
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I'm going to guess that it's a "make your own Witcher game".

Plenty of reasons to cry for "fans" when they find out the character creator has a female toggle.

To CDPR's credit, although they are partnering with Epic, the game won't be an EGS exlcusive:


This makes sense, considering they own GOG and they probably saw bigger sales on steam, and it would be a massive shitstorm if the game isn't released on either platform
Of course it's not going to be exclusive to one storefront, it'll be on PS5 too.
 

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Cd Projekt announced a new game? Already? Is it May 2012 or am I having deja vu?
 
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I having deja vu?
 

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SWITCH FINALLY HAS FOLDERS!

But you can't access them on the home screen.

To paraphrase Yahtzee: "When Nintendo gives you chocolate buttons, it has to take away heart medication with its other hand".
 
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