School shooting at Texas Elementary school, several children reported dead

[SilentPony]

So much for living by the gun, and dying by the gun. You are SWAT officers, it's your job! If not that, then why bother signing me up?! I know protections of ones self is important, but if all you're doing is signing up to look "cool or bad ass", then stick to professional cosplay and fuck off. And if you're really that much of a coward, you might as well work Bison, Shang Tsung, or Shao Khan.

I think you hit the nail on the head. I think a lot of police culture is about LOOKING cool. LOOKING like a badass, LOOKING like someone who would be on the Avengers team fighting Thanos and saving the city.
But that's all it is. They look like people who would run into a school to save children. They're not those people of course, they just look like those people.
And apparently the Uvalda police have gotten their feelings hurt, they don't like people being mean to them, and they're refusing to go to work and police the city and have brought in units from other cities to do their jobs. Because those dumb parents won't stop bitching and complaining about their kids being killed, and they just don't understand for police their priority in the safety of the officers. The children were just not that important.

 

[Trunkage]

Throw enough shit at the wall, some of it will stick. The shit to throw is that it's the fault of anything and everything that means guns should not be restricted in any way.

The individuals in gun crowd have a variety of things they blame on gun violence. You got to spread the shit around to cover more people triggers

 

[XsjadoBlaydette]

This is an informative first hand account of police failure, mixed with that wonderful supreme court ruling to protect them from having any obligation to protect civilians.

 

[Piscian]

I gotta admit I did not see the cop thing coming. I kept an open mind up until even the ghost of Ebenezer scrooge of a governor turned his back on them. I honestly thought the state most unapologetic about gun toting hero cops wouldn't have this kinda thing happen. I always think back to the fact that the concept of police was invented to get serfs and the lower class from robbing the rich. Its a weird fact everyone seems desperate to gloss over. It seems like we really do need a complete overhaul, but I don't see it happening in my life time.

 

[Ezekiel]

I find it so stupid that when people suggest raising the age to 21, the other side points out that you can join the military at 18. Yeah, but in the military you are supervised, disciplined and well trained. When I say discipline, I mean being in an environment where you are controlled. Obedience and order. The military isn't comparable to some kid buying a rifle.

 

[FakeSympathy]

And to think I actually wanted to vote for him back in 2016. I want to slap my past self in the face

 

[Agema]

And to think I actually wanted to vote for him back in 2016. I want to slap my past self in the face

I'm pretty sure that "absent father" thing is a bit of a myth.

There's a link between children coming from broken homes and increased violence, but beyond that no greater likelihood to go on a mass shooting as far as I am aware. And even then, I don't know if it will be as simple as that broken homes cause violence. Potentially, broken homes and violence share the same root cause(s), or are part of a series of issues (including poverty, etc.) that overlap in complex ways.

 

[FakeSympathy]

I'm pretty sure that "absent father" thing is a bit of a myth.

There's a link between children coming from broken homes and increased violence, but beyond that no greater likelihood to go on a mass shooting as far as I am aware. And even then, I don't know if it will be as simple as that broken homes cause violence. Potentially, broken homes and violence share the same root cause(s), or are part of a series of issues (including poverty, etc.) that overlap in complex ways.

I agree. I especially urked hard when “declining church attendance” was mentioned.

As a Christian myself (I am much open-minded!), i know violence can come from religious families. In fact, I once knew someone who was a devoted christian and a family man, he swore he was reformed after his first time in prison, but still ended up killing his wife with a gun and went back toprison

i was shocked and appalled. Like, the dude seem like a hard-working guy and an awesome person to hang out with, but with one swift action he ruined all that.

I think he’s the reason why i have trust issues

 

[Trunkage]

So the good guy with a gun stopping a bad guy with a gun

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Maybe we should be more gender specific about the word guy

 

[TheMysteriousGX]

So the good guy with a gun stopping a bad guy with a gun

Redirect Notice

Maybe we should be more gender specific about the word guy

Sounds like she deserves 40% of the city budget

 

[The Rogue Wolf]

And to think I actually wanted to vote for him back in 2016. I want to slap my past self in the face

Yeah, I too miss the days when Daddy stuck around to abuse his wife and kids, like God intended.

 

[SilentPony]

I find it so stupid that when people suggest raising the age to 21, the other side points out that you can join the military at 18. Yeah, but in the military you are supervised, disciplined and well trained. When I say discipline, I mean being in an environment where you are controlled. Obedience and order. The military isn't comparable to some kid buying a rifle.

Also, and I've never served so feel free to correct me, but guns are very well controlled in the military. Some random aircraft tech can't just walk into the armory and get loaded. And even on missions, SEALS just don't have those rifles ready do go. They're provided on an "as needed" basis.
Im sure in some units, situations they play a little fast and loose with some stuff. But an 18 year old off the bus recruit can't just ask for 2 assault rifles and armor and get it, no questions asked.

 

[Trunkage]

Also, and I've never served so feel free to correct me, but guns are very well controlled in the military. Some random aircraft tech can't just walk into the armory and get loaded. And even on missions, SEALS just don't have those rifles ready do go. They're provided on an "as needed" basis.
Im sure in some units, situations they play a little fast and loose with some stuff. But an 18 year old off the bus recruit can't just ask for 2 assault rifles and armor and get it, no questions asked.

As far as I understand, there is a 6 step process before a solider was allowed to fire at anyone in Afghanistan and Iraq, including verbal commands and warning shots. You couldn't bypass it even if a weapon was pointed at you, only when you were actually being shot at

But then, police in the US don't follow this at all. US citizens are generally seen as more dangerous than Afghanis and Iraqis

 

[SilentPony]

As far as I understand, there is a 6 step process before a solider was allowed to fire at anyone in Afghanistan and Iraq, including verbal commands and warning shots. You couldn't bypass it even if a weapon was pointed at you, only when you were actually being shot at

But then, police in the US don't follow this at all. US citizens are generally seen as more dangerous than Afghanis and Iraqis

Yup, they absolutely are. There's a dude at my gym, current beat cop wants to be SWAT. He's an ex Marine Sniper, special forces. He openly, proudly, talks about how when he's on patrol in St. Louis its like he's back in Afghanistan. And that's his mentality. The mean streets of Creve Couer near Priory High School or the Coldstone Creamery are JUST as violent and threatening and controlled by enemies as Fallujah. The West Olive movie theater, and forward operations base 2, same diff right?
And he think's he's right. He's a badass. He's a hero. He treats St. Louis citizens like enemy hostiles on foreign soil, and he's right. Fucking scares me.

 

[RhombusHatesYou]

the Coldstone Creamery

Maybe he's lactose intolerant.

 

[RhombusHatesYou]

The military isn't comparable to some kid buying a rifle.

Militaries in general have this big thing against having people wandering around carrying weapons without there being a need to do so.

 

[Dreiko]

So the good guy with a gun stopping a bad guy with a gun

Redirect Notice

Maybe we should be more gender specific about the word guy

To gun otaku out there a gun is a substitute for their dick and a woman with a gun is basically a guy.

 

[Dirty Hipsters]

To gun otaku out there a gun is a substitute for their dick and a woman with a gun is basically a guy.

...what?

 

[thebobmaster]

Looks like the new generation is starting EARLY.

Florida 5th grader arrested for mass shooting threat

A fifth-grade student at Patriot Elementary School in Cape Coral, Florida, was arrested Saturday for threatening to pull off a mass shooting via text messages, police said.

nypost.com

 

[Silvanus]

Also, and I've never served so feel free to correct me, but guns are very well controlled in the military.

I love the fact that 'serve in the military' gets truncated to 'serve', because on Grindr 'serving' is shorthand for giving oral sex with no expectation of reciprocity.

Anyway, the men who serve are society's true heroes, that's what I'm trying to say.