Ukraine

[Chimpzy]

A day after throwing out a video about being in Africa, the boss of Wagner is dead, if Russian sources are to be believed.

Wagner chief Yevgeny Prigozhin presumed dead after Russia plane crash

The Russian private military company boss was on the passenger list of the jet which came down near Moscow.

www.bbc.com

If he's actually dead, anyone taking bets on accident versus assassination? I'm betting on the latter.

If true, then that took longer than expected. Also, good, one less bastard in the world.

 

[Dalisclock]

A day after throwing out a video about being in Africa, the boss of Wagner is dead, if Russian sources are to be believed.

Wagner chief Yevgeny Prigozhin presumed dead after Russia plane crash

The Russian private military company boss was on the passenger list of the jet which came down near Moscow.

www.bbc.com

If he's actually dead, anyone taking bets on accident versus assassination? I'm betting on the latter.

His plane went down over Russia. That's enough to suggest he was shot down by Russian Air defense.

Why he thought he we safe flying over Russia I have no clue.

Alas the Hot Dog vendor has himself become a hot dog.

 

[CM156]

A day after throwing out a video about being in Africa, the boss of Wagner is dead, if Russian sources are to be believed.

Wagner chief Yevgeny Prigozhin presumed dead after Russia plane crash

The Russian private military company boss was on the passenger list of the jet which came down near Moscow.

www.bbc.com

If he's actually dead, anyone taking bets on accident versus assassination? I'm betting on the latter.

Reads like a suicide to me.
Rest in pepperoni.

 

[SilentPony]

His plane went down over Russia. That's enough to suggest he was shot down by Russian Air defense.

Why he thought he we safe flying over Russia I have no clue.

Alas the Hot Dog vendor has himself become a hot dog.

I suspect he faked his own death, knowing he's a marked man. No way he was just gonna retire to a former Soviet state. And its not like he'd care about civilian casualties.
Alternatively, he'd be stupid enough to think Putin was telling the truth, nah really fam, bury that shit its all square, come on back, I'll have a private plane meet you to fly over a remote area outside of Moscow, and listen here's 9 civilians to travel with you, I totally respect their lives.

 

[Dalisclock]

I suspect he faked his own death, knowing he's a marked man. No way he was just gonna retire to a former Soviet state. And its not like he'd care about civilian casualties.
Alternatively, he'd be stupid enough to think Putin was telling the truth, nah really fam, bury that shit its all square, come on back, I'll have a private plane meet you to fly over a remote area outside of Moscow, and listen here's 9 civilians to travel with you, I totally respect their lives.

Hopefully we get some kind of confirmation of the dead on the plane.

IF he was on that plane the man is worm food.

 

[meiam]

Aren't they making a sequel to lord of war? Maybe they should change the story to be about this guy bonkers life now that he's dead.

Wonder who the other people on the plane were?

 

[SilentPony]

Wonder who the other people on the plane were?

Well apparently a bunch of General and other officers mysteriously disappeared after the Coup - kinda like Putin was spending some time rounding up the collaborators.
Wouldn't be a bad idea to have them all in the plane you're already planning to shoot down. 10 birds with one missile as it were.

 

[CM156]

Not to victim blame, but if I had double crossed Vladimir Putin, I would simply choose to never get on a plane again as long as he was alive.

 

[Ag3ma]

Goodness me. Putin may as well be stroking a white cat saying something like "You have failed me for the last time".

 

[Ag3ma]

Well apparently a bunch of General and other officers mysteriously disappeared after the Coup - kinda like Putin was spending some time rounding up the collaborators.
Wouldn't be a bad idea to have them all in the plane you're already planning to shoot down. 10 birds with one missile as it were.

Although bear in mind that Russia is a chaotic state.

Prigozhin himself demonstrates that all sort of players are prepared to take strong action on their own initiative and Putin has vastly less control than he likes people to think. There will be a whole host of people - FSB, military, bureacracy, etc. - who may have decided to take Prigozhin out without bothering to check with Putin. They wouldn't be caught (and would anyone even look that hard?).

 

[Trunkage]

Not to victim blame, but if I had double crossed Vladimir Putin, I would simply choose to never get on a plane again as long as he was alive.

That would be true of any transport device

 

[SilentPony]

Although bear in mind that Russia is a chaotic state.

Prigozhin himself demonstrates that all sort of players are prepared to take strong action on their own initiative and Putin has vastly less control than he likes people to think. There will be a whole host of people - FSB, military, bureacracy, etc. - who may have decided to take Prigozhin out without bothering to check with Putin. They wouldn't be caught (and would anyone even look that hard?).

Totally fair. Its also possible the general wasn't on the plane at all, and this was a faked death.
This is also interesting: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/pV9N3E7FcOY

If true, all of Wagner's assets transfer over to the dude's wife.

 

[Chimpzy]

Something to consider in this: Russia making good on its promise to fight nazis.

 

[The Rogue Wolf]

A day after throwing out a video about being in Africa, the boss of Wagner is dead, if Russian sources are to be believed.

Wagner chief Yevgeny Prigozhin presumed dead after Russia plane crash

The Russian private military company boss was on the passenger list of the jet which came down near Moscow.

www.bbc.com

If he's actually dead, anyone taking bets on accident versus assassination? I'm betting on the latter.

Huh. I've never seen an entire airplane fall out of a window before.

 

[meiam]

Something to consider in this: Russia making good on its promise to fight nazis.

The nazi were in their heart all along.

Wonder if Belarus guy knew that was going to happen or if he was making his own plan to get the wagner around and now it's all gone.

 

[Silvanus]

The nazi were in their heart all along.

Wonder if Belarus guy knew that was going to happen or if he was making his own plan to get the wagner around and now it's all gone.

According to Telegram, this flight was between St Petersburg and Moscow. And the last video Prigozhin filmed-- less than 2 days beforehand-- appeared to be filmed in Africa, and was extolling the Wagner Group's operations on that continent. So judging by that, he wasn't in Belarus for a while anyway.

 

[RhombusHatesYou]

The nazi were in their heart all along.

Dammit, I had money on the nazis being the friends we made on the journey.

 

[Gergar12]

Putin is so short sighted.

 

[CM156]

The nazi were in their heart all along.

The Nazis were coming from inside the house!

 

[Gordon_4]

Huh. I've never seen an entire airplane fall out of a window before.

No, but I’d say Prigozhin fell out of the highest window it’s possible to fall out of.