Or alternatively....
Explanation for how things are? There's a readily available, very obvious explanation: a bunch of people were taking dangerous homecures. The President suggested a particular dangerous cure. Then a few people conflated the specific dangerous cure he suggested with another common one, and other people reported on the dangers of dangerous fake cures in general.
I find it genuinely hilarious that you think it's anyone other than you being pedantic here.
I corrected people spreading false information. We've already had multiple acknowledgements that I was correct that their info was wrong. You have brought nothing of substance to this, you just don't like the implications of me being right. Let's not forget several pages ago when you said this:
Your position here is that my standards for media competence should be lower so I don't drive people away from the sources that are misinforming them to ones that you like less. You have conceded that I have the facts right on the actual news stories, but you don't find my media consumption responsible because I think the people spreading untruths are lying.
This is anachronistic. They reported on what Trump said, then later reported an increase in bleach drinking after his statements, then weeks later acknowledged that it was an issue before he said anything, and even with that data in their hands, some refused to admit he didn't cause a spike.
Yes... unnecessarily pedantically.
No, my position is that your complaints about the media should be realistic and accurate. This involves:
Well, that's kind of the problem with being a smartypants - sometimes you know too much about a topic to draw a conclusion that might be obvious to people who know less.
You categorically did not do that. You complained about accurate reporting, then offered a mess of other weak excuses for why you consider the media to blame for some people mixing things up.
No: they reported what he said. Then a single outlet reported the timing of the rise wrongly, though an understandable mistake to anyone who isn't grinding an axe, and even they did not attribute it to him.
That depends on if a side quest of what they want to do involves us getting in the way, and them killing us. Also, they could just gain sentience, and their model could be based on Hitler or Pol Pot.
In this case a matter of English language, as I thought 'ulcer' is a shortcut to peptic ulcers and similar in the GI tract. Besides, it was a coin flip whether you'd read it as the joke it was supposed to be or as something else.
With creative thinking like this we wouldn't have had a pandemic of any kind.
Yes, those are what people mostly mean by ulcers. And I should really have grasped that, but my mind got stuck on thinking about all the other forms of ulcers (e.g. pressure, bladder, genital, aortic, uterine, etc.)
Excuse me. An entirely different user said other news organizations do the same thing, and your response to them was to pretend that other organizations hadn't lied and been sued for defamation as well. And they had, multiple times, in recent memory, some paying out millions of dollars as a result. Neither of these threads would have gone this way if you just stopped treating the mainstream news media as morally irreproachable. I didn't deny Fox's actions, I didn't deflect, I just responded to you saying something wrong.
Shall we check the record?
Did you forget that your first response to me on this topic was agreeing that I was factually accurate?
Factually correct that Trump did not suggest drinking bleach (and that he suggested injecting disinfectant instead, a fact you deflected by bizarrely insisting a suggestion should not be called a suggestion).
Yes, and if only you'd stopped at correcting the record on the specific point that Trump didn't tell people to drink bleach everyone would have just accepted it and moved on.
I answered this point the first time you made it:
I don't need to answer it again. I understand the reports didn't literally say he told people to drink bleach. I also can remember the event when it happened, and people were convinced at that time that he had said to drink bleach. It's not people having a fuzzy memory 3 years later, it's not people combining different events in their memory. #dontdrinkbleach trended within days of the comments. And it is incredibly easy to see how, when the news "suggests" Trump told people to cure their covid with internal disinfectant, then talks in the articles all about not drinking bleach, then starts headlining articles about the event with "Why you shouldn't drink bleach", with eventually the entertainment industry just outright saying Trump thinks it's good to drink bleach.
You're still saying things that are wrong!
Yes, and yet you still referred to drinking bleach as a "perfect remembering" of what the media reported, which is irreconcilable with the acknowledgement above.
Except people were drinking bleach! Fucking hell, man. You've just spent multiple posts arguing over a rise in bleach and disinfectant poisonings! Put 2+2 together.
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