Correct, it's on the continued and constant maintenance of an entire society.
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You would disregard reason and moralize the death of millions for the opportunity to flip off religion. That's blind hatred.
Building a broader strawman out of that one line is disingenuous. I mean, this isn't the first time this topic has come up and we know tstorm's position on the matter, right? Even in a broader sense when the discussion has been about marriages and relationships and so on.
Right. But that dependence is not only of a much lesser nature, but also a minor part of my mode of existence. I exist as a constituent part of a society, but I also exist as a distinct entity with interests and wishes that are apart from society and all my own. An organ, and a zygote, do not. They have no separate interests or wishes and their dependence is the entirety of their mode of existence.
The functional difference between a zygote and an organ comes down to potential. The potential to become a thinking, choosing human experiencing life. On that count it shares the same potential as a separate sperm and egg.
I scarcely see how that's a strawman, but rather a necessary logical conclusion of the position as stated. If one believes that the existence of human life is always and absolutely the best choice, trumping all other concerns, then it necessarily follows that everyone should sacrifice their own wellbeing to bring more human life into existence, even if that human life is unsustainable and miserable.
Yes, and I believe there are inconsistencies there.
Flipping off religion is the epitome of reason. So fuck anyone and their religious beliefs that would force someone to carry a pregnancy against their will.
And now I can only hope that reasonable people never respect another word out of your mouth. "Flipping off religion is the epitome of reason"? Basing your position off of hating another will never make you right no matter how right or wrong the thing you hate is. You let the things you resent define you, and everything downstream of that is worthless.
He just wanted to be Donald Trump minus all the legal issues. Turned out Trump's supporters don't care about those in the least.
Although I just want to point out that Winston Churchill actually won when it really mattered. Hence why his quotations have so much impact.
Of course, if you rephrase that as "It's not the winning that matters it's the taking part", that's normally the sort of thing Ron in happier days would have laughed off as soft, weak wokeism.
Oh they care. Being a lunatic who can't stop committing crimes just happens to be appealing to them....for some reason. I've heard analysts describe ''Trump with competence and without the crazy'' to be a losing strategy because Trump's voters love the incompetence and crazy more than any actual policy Trump has.
To be fair, that's only a tranche of Republican voters. Just, unfortunately, the ones most engaged with the political process who select their candidates. (The Republicans aren't unusual in this: most party memberships overrepresent cranks, extremists and weirdos.)
It's obvious a lot of Republican voters are frustrated with, disillusioned by and even hate Trump. But come an election, they'll be faithful to the party and stick an X by his name.
It's almost like actions have consequences or something. Didn't a political party spend decades telling us that?
It is reasonable to expect things of society generally. It is even reasonable to expect certain things of individuals. Incubation until birth against that individual's will is not one of them. Moreover, we should want the people who are going to have children to want to have children. Obviously. If you still want to see less abortions, there are plenty less invasive ways of pursuing it: make it less expensive to have children-- both in the maternity ward and then to raise them. Encourage contraception. What absolutely should not be done is to enslave the pregnant to carry unwanted children to term and then risk their lives or health in childbirth.
Besides, he's going to be "in debt" in the way most very rich people are ever in debt, which is potentially have to flog a portion of their copious assets when they don't want to. Like they've got $50 million in shares, $10 million in property and $1 million in the bank, and try to make out that a $5 million bill is going to leave them paupers.
No, I don't understand Mr. Tate and I'm a little afraid to.