Funny events in anti-woke world

[Phoenixmgs]

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To live in such a simple world must be absolutely amazing for you

You can train your body to not have constant food cravings throughout the day. If you don't wanna do that, just admit it instead of coming up with some excuse for why you can't. There's many ways to get there and there's at least 1 or more ways that would work for anyone. You can use a drug to make willpower a lot less of an issue. You can do it slowly like say give up caloric drinks the 1st week (or month or whatever time frame you want), then add in say chips the next time period, then firies, then stuff like pizza with a bunch of bread, then fried foods, etc. Not that you can't ever eat those things but they can't be eaten routinely. If you wanna be healthy, you have to eat a healthy diet, there is no cheat / no hack around doing that.

For any problem, I get straight to the root and cut out any bullshit. So yeah, I keep everything as simple as possible, KISS.

 

[tippy2k2]

You can train your body to not have constant food cravings throughout the day. If you don't wanna do that, just admit it instead of coming up with some excuse for why you can't. There's many ways to get there and there's at least 1 or more ways that would work for anyone. You can use a drug to make willpower a lot less of an issue. You can do it slowly like say give up caloric drinks the 1st week (or month or whatever time frame you want), then add in say chips the next time period, then firies, then stuff like pizza with a bunch of bread, then fried foods, etc. Not that you can't ever eat those things but they can't be eaten routinely. If you wanna be healthy, you have to eat a healthy diet, there is no cheat / no hack around doing that.

For any problem, I get straight to the root and cut out any bullshit. So yeah, I keep everything as simple as possible, KISS.

I'll give you some credit (I don't know if I misunderstood or if you just hadn't said this) that you're willing to go far enough to say that people sometimes do need help with the willpower part.

Because that was my main issue with your post as I had read it to imply that all you needed to do was just not buy bad food and ignoring all the other side factors we've been talking about (depression, addiction, our brains are just assholes sometimes, etc). But if that's not what you were saying or implying, I take back my snarky meme.

I'd love to be able to just stop buying junk and just eat cleanly but for myself at least, I needed help with it (in my case, drugs) because of a bunch of other factors including depression, chronic pain, and addiction. I've got one hell of a trifecta going!

 

[Elijin]

Sorry what?

"For the purposes of national security and freedom throughout the world, the United States of America feels that the ownership and control of Greenland is an absolute necessity"

The US president elect just tweeted that?????

 

[Gergar12]

Sorry what?

"For the purposes of national security and freedom throughout the world, the United States of America feels that the ownership and control of Greenland is an absolute necessity"

The US president elect just tweeted that?????

I mean yeah? Don't let enemies of the US; the CCP of China control mining companies in Greenland if you don't want that which they have been doing more of.

China Steps up Its Mining Interests in Greenland

China’s growing involvement in Greenland presents risks and opportunities.

thediplomat.com

 

[Hades]

Sorry what?

"For the purposes of national security and freedom throughout the world, the United States of America feels that the ownership and control of Greenland is an absolute necessity"

The US president elect just tweeted that?????

Is anyone surprised? The whole world knew he was a loony who'd say things like that. Also I think he brought up the issue before.

 

[Phoenixmgs]

I'll give you some credit (I don't know if I misunderstood or if you just hadn't said this) that you're willing to go far enough to say that people sometimes do need help with the willpower part.

Because that was my main issue with your post as I had read it to imply that all you needed to do was just not buy bad food and ignoring all the other side factors we've been talking about (depression, addiction, our brains are just assholes sometimes, etc). But if that's not what you were saying or implying, I take back my snarky meme.

I'd love to be able to just stop buying junk and just eat cleanly but for myself at least, I needed help with it (in my case, drugs) because of a bunch of other factors including depression, chronic pain, and addiction. I've got one hell of a trifecta going!

I've said a few times already that the main problem I see with ozempic is how it's been marketed as a drug you take long term. A drug that suppresses your appetite, a key issue with eating properly and eating less obviously, can simply be used as a tool for a short period so that you can get over the sugar (carb/processed grains) withdrawals much easier. You can switch over your diet much easier and possibly negate much of the downsides (or at least the willpower aspect as you won't be hungry) of the withdrawals and thus enable people to basically switch their diet "cold turkey" to healthy foods that they probably wouldn't have been able to do otherwise or found it very hard. Getting your body used to using fat as your fuel source is the mountain you have to climb, but once you get over it, it is really easy (I never felt better just energy-wise in my life than when I was losing weight). Then once that source is gone and you sorta stabalize to where you're not using weight, it's again another challenge to just keep to your diet and not fall back. I never once denied myself food when I was hungry outside of that very 1st week or so.

I was responding to McElroy saying that willpower and appetite are things. I essentially replied back with what about just giving into your appetite but choosing to eat good foods instead? Instead of eating chips/fries/sweets, eat nuts or a steak or an omelette or whatever. If you wanna say just eating less isn't a choice because of appetite and brain signaling and all that, you can certainly choose the thing you actually pick to eat when you're hungry, right? This could be another way that can work for someone, telling them they can eat all they want, but just eat good foods when you are hungry. Someone not having to deny themselves food when hungry could be the thing that works for them as I think most people don't go on diets because that's what they think a good portion of being on a diet is and that's a massive turn off. I feel like the main systems of counting calories (or a point system) is just a horrible way to try to eat healthy. My one friend was on Weight Watchers for a bit and she commented on how she really can't order a ribeye (as I had ordered one) when we were out eating dinner because it essentially took up all her allowable points for a day (and thus would have to plan to not eat anything during the day to have a ribeye for dinner). I said that was pretty stupid that a weight program is not incentivizing eating good foods. She was off of that in probably less than a month as programs like that just don't work, plus it's dumb having to count up calories or points for everything you eat.

 

[Agema]

does Trump thing know Greenland is not as big irl as it looks on a Mercator projection?

I guess the USA can get right on that after it's finished taking over Canada.

 

[McElroy]

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I wrote "appetite" instead of "hunger" purposefully to include more than the typical feeling of hunger.

Anyway, over here if somebody wants to start an incretin analogue for weight loss they are usually (especially if they want the government to reimburse some of the cost) required to fix their diet first and lose some weight. Not a heavy calorie restriction like before a gastric bypass or sleeve surgery, but still something that shows results. Ozempic and co. are about keeping those results rolling. And if you quit the drug those results seem to roll back. Thus it seems that a threshold after which things get "easy" doesn't exist for a statistically significant amount of people.

 

[Chimpzy]

I guess the USA can get right on that after it's finished taking over Canada.

Canada, Mexico, Panama, Greenland. Maybe others. Not Puerto Rico tho.

Anyway, so many new states. But in what order tho? We can turn that into a game, take bets on it.

 

[Phoenixmgs]

I wrote "appetite" instead of "hunger" purposefully to include more than the typical feeling of hunger.

Anyway, over here if somebody wants to start an incretin analogue for weight loss they are usually (especially if they want the government to reimburse some of the cost) required to fix their diet first and lose some weight. Not a heavy calorie restriction like before a gastric bypass or sleeve surgery, but still something that shows results. Ozempic and co. are about keeping those results rolling. And if you quit the drug those results seem to roll back. Thus it seems that a threshold after which things get "easy" doesn't exist for a statistically significant amount of people.

Yes, because they are given the drug as the solution instead of using it as a tool to get you to the actual solution.

 

[Silvanus]

((Pt 1, in which Thames Water accrues over £14bn of debt in loans, which the franchise holder Macquarie uses to pay shareholders, and illegally dumps raw sewage into the river;

Pt 2, in which the Tories draw up plans to transfer the cost of that debt to the public purse;

Pt 3, in which Macquarie is allowed to acquire 100% equity in the energy generated through our national grid (that 14bn remains outstanding, remember);

Pt 4, in which Thames Water is given the go-ahead to raise prices by 35% to plug that debt, while also still paying tens of millions a year to shareholders. ))

Revealed: Thames Water diverted ‘cash for clean-ups’ to help pay bonuses

Exclusive: UK’s biggest water company assessed risks before cutting back on cost of environmental work, investigation shows

www.theguardian.com

Now we get some more juicy background! Last time customer prices increased, the given reason was investment for over 800 vital public works projects. Now it turns out they called off almost 100 of those projects (including some on tackling phosphorus river pollution) in secret, without informing the regulator. And diverted the money to... bonuses and dividends.

 

[Silvanus]

I was asking who's actually paying the price you claimed it cost and it's hardly anyone.

Because most cannot afford it.

Do you think the price is only the price when its paid? I.e., if a seller puts a £10 dollar pricetag on a bottle of water, and nobody buys it, somehow the price of the water isn't £10?

You said you'd rather have medical professionals deciding what people need than insurance companies, that's not always the case.

It is always the case. There is no scenario in which I'd have more trust in some businessman who has a profit motive to refuse me coverage, rather than someone with medical training and expertise.

Well, unless the doctor is Harold Shipman or something.

 

[Phoenixmgs]

Because most cannot afford it.

Do you think the price is only the price when its paid? I.e., if a seller puts a £10 dollar pricetag on a bottle of water, and nobody buys it, somehow the price of the water isn't £10?



It is always the case. There is no scenario in which I'd have more trust in some businessman who has a profit motive to refuse me coverage, rather than someone with medical training and expertise.

Well, unless the doctor is Harold Shipman or something.

We were talking about how much the drug actually costs and how much Novo Nordisk was making. You put forth a claim that was wrong (and so did I as I originally linked the video about how expensive the drug was and tstorm corrected me). The people that need it can get it most of the time.

Again, I linked to the video about that very thing... with a medical professional talking about it. If you think most doctors actually know the ins and outs of drugs and treatments, then you're naive. Doctors are heavily advertised to. Hell, my grandma's doctor wanted to do some surgery on her when she only had a few days to left.

 

[thebobmaster]

Because most cannot afford it.

Do you think the price is only the price when its paid? I.e., if a seller puts a £10 dollar pricetag on a bottle of water, and nobody buys it, somehow the price of the water isn't £10?



It is always the case. There is no scenario in which I'd have more trust in some businessman who has a profit motive to refuse me coverage, rather than someone with medical training and expertise.

Well, unless the doctor is Harold Shipman or something.

Hey, I never heard a single patient of Harold Shipman complain by the time he was done with them.

 

[The Rogue Wolf]

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does Trump thing know Greenland is not as big irl as it looks on a Mercator projection?

And he just throws the line in there with no kind of preamble or follow-up.

 

[Hades]

The media has a weird reputation of leaning ''left'' but with large sections of the Dutch Media its clear they've been on a campaign of punishing Saint Omzigt for being an obstacle for the more extreme far right proposals of the coalition. The largest Dutch newspaper in particular often post leaks of Omzigt's coalition partners complaining and calling his mental state into question. At the same time those papers strive to normalize Wilders. ''Geerd Milders'' and all that nonsense. Even at several left wing talk shows there's suggestion that its Omzigt who's key problem in the coalition.

Recently the issue came to a head. Omzigt got emotionally overwhelmed and walked out on an interview which the became big news. This was the focus of all the news coverage, but at the expense of something far more noteworthy. Omzigt namely revealed that Wilders, the oh so moderate ''Geert Milders'' had made proposals in the coalition talk of five year jail sentences for possessing a Koran! Total radio silence of the Media about this. All the headlines were about Omzigt being ''unstable'' and yet again being problematic.

And I get it. Omzigt's behavior was indeed worth reporting on, but it wasn't exactly newsworthy. We've known for over a year that he's a walking burn out. This event was neither surprising nor interesting. Geert Milders wanting people jailed for having a Koran however is VERY newsworthy and should be surprising for anyone naive enough to believe the Geert Milders gimmick.

 

[Gergar12]

I guess the USA can get right on that after it's finished taking over Canada.

We don't want Quebec.

 

[Elijin]

I mean yeah? Don't let enemies of the US; the CCP of China control mining companies in Greenland if you don't want that which they have been doing more of.

China Steps up Its Mining Interests in Greenland

China’s growing involvement in Greenland presents risks and opportunities.

thediplomat.com

For the purposes of national security and freedom throughout the world, Canada feels that the ownership and control of the United States of America is a necessity.

 

[Casual Shinji]

The media has a weird reputation of leaning ''left'' but with large sections of the Dutch Media its clear they've been on a campaign of punishing Saint Omzigt for being an obstacle for the more extreme far right proposals of the coalition. The largest Dutch newspaper in particular often post leaks of Omzigt's coalition partners complaining and calling his mental state into question. At the same time those papers strive to normalize Wilders. ''Geerd Milders'' and all that nonsense. Even at several left wing talk shows there's suggestion that its Omzigt who's key problem in the coalition.

Recently the issue came to a head. Omzigt got emotionally overwhelmed and walked out on an interview which the became big news. This was the focus of all the news coverage, but at the expense of something far more noteworthy. Omzigt namely revealed that Wilders, the oh so moderate ''Geert Milders'' had made proposals in the coalition talk of five year jail sentences for possessing a Koran! Total radio silence of the Media about this. All the headlines were about Omzigt being ''unstable'' and yet again being problematic.

And I get it. Omzigt's behavior was indeed worth reporting on, but it wasn't exactly newsworthy. We've known for over a year that he's a walking burn out. This event was neither surprising nor interesting. Geert Milders wanting people jailed for having a Koran however is VERY newsworthy and should be surprising for anyone naive enough to believe the Geert Milders gimmick.

News media is gonna news media. Despite Wilders still being popular obviously, he's old news and so is everything he says, which is pretty much unchanged in the last 10 years. Going after the failures of fresh, new politicians is always going to take precedent. Faber's been getting the headlines too. And previously Sigrid Kaag was getting all the attention, till she burned out.

Also, Omtzigt was already in the spotlight for being the underdog who climbed himself up to having one of the biggest political parties. For him to crash out like this it's impossible for news outlets to contain themselves with such a roast infront of them.

 

[Agema]

I mean yeah? Don't let enemies of the US; the CCP of China control mining companies in Greenland if you don't want that which they have been doing more of.

*Capitalism!
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(* Except when it doesn't suit us!)