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If there was a bigger story there of why they were detained, we'd already know it probably.
There's really no reason for this to be a story (at least yet) in the first place.

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Like Gordon said, it doesn't seem like ICE was doing anything out of the ordinary. They had reason to be looking for that guy; they found him, questioned him, and let him go.
I'm sure if the other people he was driving with that ICE took away was just ordinary people that legally belong in the US, we would know about them by this point. Again, this is a complete nothing burger of a story so far and you guys are whining about it, not me.
So in short: you're just happy to assume the targets deserved it. Even though the driver was wrongfully detained, and they carted away two other people who they weren't even looking for when they stopped the car.

You're just allowing enormous assumptions to deliver you to the conclusion you wanted to come to anyway.
 

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So in short: you're just happy to assume the targets deserved it. Even though the driver was wrongfully detained, and they carted away two other people who they weren't even looking for when they stopped the car.

You're just allowing enormous assumptions to deliver you to the conclusion you wanted to come to anyway.
Unless there's evidence to the contrary, why would I assume they didn't deserve it? When I see a cop that pulled someone over on the way home, am I supposed to assume the target didn't deserve it? If a cop pulls someone over for say speeding and they find the person has warrants on them, are they not supposed to arrest them? Why would you assume ICE took those people away for no reason? They probably found something on them in the legitimate search for the guy they wanted to question. This is standard police procedure type stuff. Unless there's evidence to the contrary, why would I care? Am I supposed literally research and look up every single person that is detained by some kind of enforcement agency to make sure it was legit?

You guys should be talking about the guy from the college that is being detained, that's a story, this is not.
 

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Unless there's evidence to the contrary, why would I assume they didn't deserve it? When I see a cop that pulled someone over on the way home, am I supposed to assume the target didn't deserve it? If a cop pulls someone over for say speeding and they find the person has warrants on them, are they not supposed to arrest them? Why would you assume ICE took those people away for no reason? They probably found something on them in the legitimate search for the guy they wanted to question. This is standard police procedure type stuff. Unless there's evidence to the contrary, why would I care? Am I supposed literally research and look up every single person that is detained by some kind of enforcement agency to make sure it was legit?
"Standard police procedure" doesn't involve handcuffing and detaining someone for whom there is no warrant. Given that that happened, and given that we know why they stopped his car and it wasn't for the passengers, there's good reason to be bloody sceptical of their motives. Especially since we know for a fact they've been arresting other legal residents with the President's blessing.

You guys should be talking about the guy from the college that is being detained, that's a story, this is not.
I literally brought him up. And you dismissed it by saying the courts could overturn it. You didn't seem to give any more of a shit about him.
 
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"Standard police procedure" doesn't involve handcuffing and detaining someone for whom there is no warrant. Given that that happened, and given that we know why they stopped his car and it wasn't for the passengers, there's good reason to be bloody sceptical of their motives. Especially since we know for a fact they've been arresting other legal residents with the President's blessing.



I literally brought him up. And you dismissed it by saying the courts could overturn it. You didn't seem to give any more of a shit about him.
Yes it can. The Tyreek Hill video where he got handcuffed and there was no warrant for him:



Again, I didn't dismiss it, I said that was bad. I pointed out that the courts will overturn it because they will. Just like when they removed Trump from ballots (I took the "receipts" of democrats being anti-democratic) and I knew it was unconstitutional, would get overturned, and felt no need to worry about it.
 

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Sir "never trust the official narrative" predictably rolling over like a simpering cuck to show lovely soft white belly to literal unchecked kidnap squads
Presuming you're talking about who I think you are, it's the guy who proudly talks about supporting Bernie Sanders - who is literally the only self-declared socialist in the Senate - for president and then writes about socialism being a load of crap that will never work. Or starts banging on about the Scandinavian system being better and then rejects every policy that would ever move the USA anywhere towards it. That's the level of joined-up thinking going on.
 

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Yes it can. The Tyreek Hill video where he got handcuffed and there was no warrant for him
No warrant was the wrong term. No warrant or observation of a crime involving the individual. Tyreek Hill was pulled for speeding and reckless driving, apparently. Jensy Machado was not observed committing any crime and nor was any crime reported for which he was suspected.

Again, I didn't dismiss it, I said that was bad. I pointed out that the courts will overturn it because they will. Just like when they removed Trump from ballots (I took the "receipts" of democrats being anti-democratic) and I knew it was unconstitutional, would get overturned, and felt no need to worry about it.
Any feelings about the President explicitly endorsing his arrest and promising more?
 
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Andrew Tate news. In order of publish dates.
 
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No warrant was the wrong term. No warrant or observation of a crime involving the individual. Tyreek Hill was pulled for speeding and reckless driving, apparently. Jensy Machado was not observed committing any crime and nor was any crime reported for which he was suspected.



Any feelings about the President explicitly endorsing his arrest and promising more?
He was also in the same vehicle with people that did get taken away by ICE and they most likely committed some crime. And if he was being belligerent with them, then it's expected for that to happen. Some guy being inconvenienced by law enforcement for like an hour or whatever is not something I'm going to get up in arms about, especially when very little is known about the actual situation.

The president my have thought it was just a student visa as the guy just got a green card recently. Though it's not like Trump would ever clear that up or apologize.
 

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I am sorry to my European friends, and Canadian friends. There is no winning when you're fighting with the US. Biden, and the democrats kept kicking the can of Russia, and China down the road.

Canada may be a free country independent of US control de jure, but not de facto. They can complain all they want on TikTok, Red-note, and X alongside turncoat American influencer. Still, they cannot solve the reality on the ground that there are 10 Americans for every 1 Canadian, and that the US has the better military, and economy. China won’t help Canada; they are currently tariffing Canada. They can’t help Canada any more than the US can stop a Chinese invasion of Myanmar or Mongolia.

Europe/EU too won’t be helped by China, whom my mother regards Europe as having not changed since decades ago/is slightly backwards/undynamic. They have failed in maintaining bloc unity/reactiveness. China is competing with Europe in EV sales, and consumption of goods/trade. Europe itself has nothing to offer but people as the EU lacks the geography, and natural resources to give in exchange with China. They should have joined with Russia, which had a smaller population but a larger number of natural resources, that is a fact. The George Bush admin was afraid of the EU surpassing the US, but the EU, if they were rational state actors, should have done that when they had the chance, and now the chance will come back in decades where Europe will face another few lost decades.

China, and the US both have good GDPs, and are continental powers, but China needs more resources vs population, and the US has too few population vs resources given they have Alaska which is sparsely populated. The Canada plan was to toll road the Northwest passage in the Arctic, something the Americans wouldn’t have let happen, and are driving a hard bargain about right now about. Also, Canada was unwilling to step up its military and surveillance platforms to prepare to deter Russia in the Arctic near its north as Greenland and Denmark. They wanted the US to do it, but every US asset there is one less of us asset in the Pacific, which leads to US lives lost and increases the probability of a US battlefield defeat by a non-zero amount. Same with Russia/Ukraine/Europe.

POTUS Trump may be an outsider, but he is not anti-American, anti-western, or even pro-Russian. He sent Javelins to Ukraine; he warns Europe and forced a rethinking on EU spending on the military. A pro-Russian president would have let the Europeans not rearm and would have stayed silent. He is German British, VP JD Vance is Scots Irish. He also didn’t stop ALL intel sharing with Ukraine, only offensive related intel sharing. I don’t think the war is winnable for Ukraine, and the moment the US sends troops to win in Ukraine is the moment Xi in China attacks Taiwan, Guam, Japan, and possibly South Korea.

As a US citizen I didn’t vote for Trump or the Libertarians or any other idiot third party. But Biden didn’t get Europe to rearm as fast, he didn’t campaign as well as Trump, he offends corporate America too much domestically and should have gone easier on corporate regulations on his first term who were going to Super-Pac/donate to his opponents - him to political death, and Obama didn’t sanction enough or even react fast enough to Ukraine vs Russia. He let the Iraq War go on too long and didn’t leave Afghanistan as he campaigned on, he may have been great domestically but was awful on foreign policy.
 

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I would make a comment about boycotting the Epic by no longer buying games on their store, but that would imply people actually do that.