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Again, if you're seeing me post stuff that seems to defend Trump, one, I didn't vote for him, two, I didn't invest in his meme coins, which I could have made money on by buying then and selling. But the idea that Trump is stupid, or a Russian agent is false. He's a dark triad CEO like the PayPal Mafia people(Elon Musk, and Peter Thiel for example). I am trying to be more truthful than your average CNN, MSNBC, or even Vox news outlet.

The Europeans can handle Putin, the Ukrainians may not be able to handle Putin, but if he goes to Poland, Putin will lose as, but the cost is what will be high we are talking about atleast a million Ukraninan KIA, MIA, and a few tne thousand Polish dead again that's horrible, but the US has other pressing concerns in the Pacific, and Africa that will ensure US stability in the long run.

Every Himar missile sent to Ukraine could mean a US Marine squad doesn't get fire support over the South China Sea, or near Taiwan or even South Korea. Again Russia could become an ally, but if we destroy the Russian military too soon, that could have ramifications in the future when US troops, and possibly NATO troops, are forced to go into Russia to defend them against China possibly. Again I can't predict the future, even Biden was slow to escalate because of Jake Sullivan, one of the best National Security advisors we have ever had, likely knew what I knew to a much higher degree, and had classified intelligence and long run projections. Even if China doesn't invade Russia, the US doesn't like to destabilize nuclear-armed countries, if we did a coup or help a coup in Pakistan's PM, for example, we made sure he was replaced with someone in the military, again a guess.

From a Russian point of view the EU is a threat to them alongside Japan, and China. in the Medium, and short term since Russia has former German, and Japanese land. What's in Europe's interests isn't in the US interests 100% of the time. And the US could have protected all free trade by just building destroyers, and let China be the hyperpower, but then China would have leverage over the US.

Again, AI could soon make nuclear weapons obsolete, even hypersonics. An AL swarm could swarm every submarine, air-base, and even slio and there goes your nuclear weapons capability.

For the intel sharing, every time we share intel China learns a little bit of how good our imagery is, and every war fought with US equipment, China gains insights. They restructured their military after the first Gulf War.

Wars in my view have an escalation threshold and median/correct amount of action for winning that depends on the type of war, and a country's capabilities determine how much escalation dominance a country has.

The five social media I have seen even mention something like this are the Binkov battlegrounds, Geohussar, Caspian Report, Peter Zehian, and the Intel Guy, and all of them are varying degrees of political alignments, and do get some things wrong. The Intel guy got nuclear weapons vs AI wrong, Peter Zehian got China wrong on Chinese collapse as of right now, Caspian Report gets some facts wrong, but not most, and Binkov avoid Belarus, and got drones wrong, but they are much better than a CNN, MSNBC, Fox News, or even Vox channel on this subject. There are so many YouTubers complaining about how the US is evil, wrong, will lose their empire, etc.

How we will lose our 'empire' is if we do imperial overreach like the Iraq War, like defending Ukraine too much. I got Myanmar wrong, I think the US should have sold arms to the rebels(however, on social media, I did troll a few of them), but then China could have armed the cartels in Mexico with anti-air weapons, again I am not perfect.

Again, even Obama and Biden did tariffs. Biden correctly put tariffs on China that contributed to inflation somewhat, and Obama attempted steel tariffs but failed. Trump is likely too strong on them, Obama too weak, and Biden closer but bad at other areas like marketing, campaigning, and domestic stakeholder management. They are all human.

Plus if Trump was anti-American, he would have gotten sacked by JD Vance and Co. Even the deep state hasn't done anything to Trump right now because their analysts have concluded he's a correction on some policies like the size of the government in terms of population of people who are government workers vs the private sector where you are forced to work harder generally, and received less pensions.

Now if Trump overcorrects too much he could get his cabinet to sack him, and JD Vance will replace him. Again, my dad does own Tesla and Palantir Stock, and he also drives a Tesla I brought for him so full disclosure, because at that time he had cancer, and I wanted him to drive one before I assumed he died(he didn't), so I gave it to him even though I warn him over being overleveraged on Tesla. Elon Musk is likely the best CEO in the world given his wealth... when he's a CEO and not trying to do two jobs at once. But no man can do everything. Also don't invest in Tesla at least right now because the vision of Tesla is that it's the future of humanity, but when people don't believe in it, the valuation will fall.

Again, a state's/elite class's interests aren't an individual citizen's interests which aren't their collection of allies' interests which aren't the world's interests.
 

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Again, AI could soon make nuclear weapons obsolete, even hypersonics. An AL swarm could swarm every submarine, air-base, and even slio and there goes your nuclear weapons capability.
Yeah, no.

While swarms of drones that simultaneously attacked and destroyed every nuclear asset would end a nation's nuclear weapons capability, the same is true if the attack came from well co-ordinated musketeers, there's nothing magic about drones. If you can hit every submarine, air-base, and silo an enemy has, simultaneously, you are playing on God mode anyway. How are you going to distribute your drone swam through the heartland of say, the US, without being noticed? How are you going to find and destroy every SSBN patrolling somewhere in the oceans of the world?

If you are in an all out war, and targeting nuclear assets, you better be very, very certain you will absolutely get 100% of them, otherwise a large number of people in your country are going to have a very bad day. Do you want to risk the future of your country that way?


Plus if Trump was anti-American, he would have gotten sacked by JD Vance and Co. Even the deep state hasn't done anything to Trump right now because their analysts have concluded he's a correction on some policies like the size of the government in terms of population of people who are government workers vs the private sector where you are forced to work harder generally, and received less pensions.
You have a lot more faith in the motives of "the deep state" than is justified.

Elon Musk is likely the best CEO in the world given his wealth
In that he has amassed a lot of money, that's a certain definition of "best", I guess.

Again, a state's/elite class's interests aren't an individual citizen's interests which aren't their collection of allies' interests which aren't the world's interests.
In this I agree completely.
 
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Again Russia could become an ally, but if we destroy the Russian military too soon, that could have ramifications in the future when US troops, and possibly NATO troops, are forced to go into Russia to defend them against China possibly. Again I can't predict the future, even Biden was slow to escalate because of Jake Sullivan, one of the best National Security advisors we have ever had, likely knew what I knew to a much higher degree, and had classified intelligence and long run projections. Even if China doesn't invade Russia, the US doesn't like to destabilize nuclear-armed countries, if we did a coup or help a coup in Pakistan's PM, for example, we made sure he was replaced with someone in the military, again a guess.
Trying to replace Europe with Russia for an ally like the Trump administration wants is just an objectively bad trade. Russia is not a major power. Its a deeply declining regional power that's going to be crippled the moments its gas runs out. And sure, Europe has declined too from the days of its globe spanning empire, but its a managed decline, and it is still one of the richest regions on the planet with big potential for military development. Russia meanwhile is a declining, backwards hellhole with an army that's exposed as a paper tiger.

If the US allies with Russia it will likely end up shackled to a corpse not unlike Germany was shackled to Austria in WWI. Not to mention that with how unstable Russia and its leadership are they'd just be a distraction, being too busy starting wars all over Europe and its other neighbors to offer any real help against China.

And Russia likely doesn't even want to be America's ally. It despises America. It hates the US so much it started a decades long conflict just because Ukraine wanted to trade with countries allied to America.

From a Russian point of view the EU is a threat to them alongside Japan, and China. in the Medium, and short term since Russia has former German, and Japanese land. What's in Europe's interests isn't in the US interests 100% of the time. And the US could have protected all free trade by just building destroyers, and let China be the hyperpower, but then China would have leverage over the US.
That's a foolish point of view from the Russians since Germany and Poland have long since accepted their lost lands. Meanwhile they also made it a point not to desire back lands directly occupied by the Russins such as Kaliningrade. The territorial situation in Europe was solved until Russia decided it needed to illegally grab Ukraine's lands.

I suppose the interests of Europe and America aren't alike all the time. But for the most part they are aligned which makes Trump's betrayal of us not only vile but also foolish. Its beyond any and all logic. Even the ''pivot to Asia'' angle doesn't really work since the US gains nothing from trying to face China alone, or worse face it with the disloyal, declining and incompetent wreck that is Russia shackled to them.
 

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Trying to replace Europe with Russia for an ally like the Trump administration wants is just an objectively bad trade. Russia is not a major power. Its a deeply declining regional power that's going to be crippled the moments its gas runs out. And sure, Europe has declined too from the days of its globe spanning empire, but its a managed decline, and it is still one of the richest regions on the planet with big potential for military development. Russia meanwhile is a declining, backwards hellhole with an army that's exposed as a paper tiger.

If the US allies with Russia it will likely end up shackled to a corpse not unlike Germany was shackled to Austria in WWI. Not to mention that with how unstable Russia and its leadership are they'd just be a distraction, being too busy starting wars all over Europe and its other neighbors to offer any real help against China.

And Russia likely doesn't even want to be America's ally. It despises America. It hates the US so much it started a decades long conflict just because Ukraine wanted to trade with countries allied to America.
Not to mention that even at the best of times, swapping your allies for your enemies is going to involve a lot of disruption in the short term.
 
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Republicans are introducing a bill set to define opposition to Trump as mental illness.


I know @Tstorm will love this, since he believes that the only reason anyone would ever disagree with him about anything is because of mental degradation.
 
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Republicans are introducing a bill set to define opposition to Trump as mental illness.


I know @Tstorm will love this, since he believes that the only reason anyone would ever disagree with him about anything is because of mental degradation.
If this is not a mental illness, than what is?

 

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Yeah, no.

While swarms of drones that simultaneously attacked and destroyed every nuclear asset would end a nation's nuclear weapons capability, the same is true if the attack came from well co-ordinated musketeers, there's nothing magic about drones. If you can hit every submarine, air-base, and silo an enemy has, simultaneously, you are playing on God mode anyway. How are you going to distribute your drone swam through the heartland of say, the US, without being noticed? How are you going to find and destroy every SSBN patrolling somewhere in the oceans of the world?

If you are in an all out war, and targeting nuclear assets, you better be very, very certain you will absolutely get 100% of them, otherwise a large number of people in your country are going to have a very bad day. Do you want to risk the future of your country that way?




You have a lot more faith in the motives of "the deep state" than is justified.



In that he has amassed a lot of money, that's a certain definition of "best", I guess.



In this I agree completely.
The US will take longer for their nuclear weapons to be possibly outdated due to better US experience, nuclear weapons numbers, and soon to be better air defense. By then they will replace them with, say, a kinetic strike weapon from space(again I don't know what comes after nuclear weapons, it could be nothing). I also mention could vs will, AI has been advancing rapidly too, and we went from LLMs to AI agents pretty fast. AI agents like Manus in China or ChatGPT's AI agent are basically UI Path without the needed programming and have high success rates for you Europeans out there.

The deep state motives are to advance US interests that is it.
 

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Trying to replace Europe with Russia for an ally like the Trump administration wants is just an objectively bad trade. Russia is not a major power. Its a deeply declining regional power that's going to be crippled the moments its gas runs out. And sure, Europe has declined too from the days of its globe spanning empire, but its a managed decline, and it is still one of the richest regions on the planet with big potential for military development. Russia meanwhile is a declining, backwards hellhole with an army that's exposed as a paper tiger.

If the US allies with Russia it will likely end up shackled to a corpse not unlike Germany was shackled to Austria in WWI. Not to mention that with how unstable Russia and its leadership are they'd just be a distraction, being too busy starting wars all over Europe and its other neighbors to offer any real help against China.

And Russia likely doesn't even want to be America's ally. It despises America. It hates the US so much it started a decades long conflict just because Ukraine wanted to trade with countries allied to America.



That's a foolish point of view from the Russians since Germany and Poland have long since accepted their lost lands. Meanwhile they also made it a point not to desire back lands directly occupied by the Russins such as Kaliningrade. The territorial situation in Europe was solved until Russia decided it needed to illegally grab Ukraine's lands.

I suppose the interests of Europe and America aren't alike all the time. But for the most part they are aligned which makes Trump's betrayal of us not only vile but also foolish. Its beyond any and all logic. Even the ''pivot to Asia'' angle doesn't really work since the US gains nothing from trying to face China alone, or worse face it with the disloyal, declining and incompetent wreck that is Russia shackled to them.
It doesn't have to be a US ally to be in the interests of the US to not see it collapse, so China isn't taking over Siberia. I would argue India isn't a major NATO ally given its relationship to Russia, Iran, and even OPEC+ but it's in the interests of the US to see India stronger so that it can stand up to China even if its leadership could hate the US in the future. There is no world where India isn't a major Chinese adversary given India's need for freshwater in the Himalayas.

And Germany and Poland may accept their lost lands being lost to Russia in World War 2, but lands change hands in history and what may be acceptance right now could change.

And the US isn't facing China alone, it's facing it by engaging in relationships on a bilateral basis with multiple countries who have different interests but are interested in a balance of power in the Asia vs China ruling over everything and anything. The problem with say, a TPP is that multiple countries in that negotiation could gang up on the US in those talks and outshout the US team, bilateral talks are more favorable to US interests.
 

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And Germany and Poland may accept their lost lands being lost to Russia in World War 2, but lands change hands in history and what may be acceptance right now could change.
Sort of, maybe.

But a key sort of issue here is that most modern nations don't see the point owning a territory full of people that oppose its control. Germany is not interested in Kaliningrad because it's not got any Germans in, and the Russians there don't appear to have any interest in becoming German. The one-time Polish lands don't have any Poles left in them, and so on. Russia thought it could take Ukraine because Russia's leaders appear to have fallen for their own propaganda that Ukrainians were just a subset of Russians.

In the same way, Trump's Canada delusion is that the Canadians are merely sort of Americans, who would be quite happy to swap Ottawa for Washington DC. Greenland he would just envisage swamping with Americans until the natives are a pathetic minority in their own land who could easily be ignored.

So, these attitudes might change, but it would also take a massive change to do that, and there's no evidence it's anywhere in sight in the nations you are referring to.
 

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Sort of, maybe.

But a key sort of issue here is that most modern nations don't see the point owning a territory full of people that oppose its control. Germany is not interested in Kaliningrad because it's not got any Germans in, and the Russians there don't appear to have any interest in becoming German. The one-time Polish lands don't have any Poles left in them, and so on. Russia thought it could take Ukraine because Russia's leaders appear to have fallen for their own propaganda that Ukrainians were just a subset of Russians.

In the same way, Trump's Canada delusion is that the Canadians are merely sort of Americans, who would be quite happy to swap Ottawa for Washington DC. Greenland he would just envisage swamping with Americans until the natives are a pathetic minority in their own land who could easily be ignored.

So, these attitudes might change, but it would also take a massive change to do that, and there's no evidence it's anywhere in sight in the nations you are referring to.
Modern nations aren't that different from historical powers; otherwise, the Azeris wouldn't take land from Armenia, and Russia wouldn't take land from Ukraine. ISIS wouldn't take land from both Syria, and Iraq before being subdued; Rwandan troops wouldn't want to occupy parts of the Congo; and even America wouldn't be aiming its sights on Canada, and Greenland alongside China, which wants land from Taiwan, and North Korea, which wants South Korea.

The idea is not that Canadians are Americans; it's that Albertans and other important resource-heavy regions plus the Arctic regions are different from Quebec, BC, and other liberal heavy strongholds.

By the way, to ordinary people, which includes me listening to this, this isn't great for everyone but the elite in a few great powers and the two superpowers, the US and China. In the US, there is widespread income inequality, a lack of affordable healthcare for old age, and the list goes on. In China, there are 996 workloads for tech-heavy companies, the toughest university test in the world, and a lack of good-paying jobs for all that want them. There is also, believe it or not, age discrimination in white collar jobs. And the income is around Mexico levels, even if it's rising.

But as long as there remains no world police, countries cannot sustain themselves on weak militaries and citizen decadence and consumption. The inverse of Eisenhower's speech is that every dollar you put towards well-being is another dollar you can't put towards protection. If there were a world police, say a UN military, it would probably only form to be unfied against another external threat.
 

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But as long as there remains no world police, countries cannot sustain themselves on weak militaries and citizen decadence and consumption. The inverse of Eisenhower's speech is that every dollar you put towards well-being is another dollar you can't put towards protection. If there were a world police, say a UN military, it would probably only form to be unfied against another external threat.
A world police is just one regime change from a world dictator, we saw in US that no matter what check and balance you have and whats written in the constitution, organization can change very quickly.

Ultimately, any system will have winner and loser, the loser will naturally band together and do everything in their power to change the system to one where they're not loser anymore. Winner have to prevent that, while also keeping the system afloat. Importantly, winner and loser are relative, a system that make everyone better off, just some more than other, still has winner and loser, even if the loser life improve, they'll still resent the winner for improving more. The inherent problem with "good" system that help everyone is they empower the loser along with the winner, and leave them in a position where they can take over. The liberal order was trying to make a world where hard work, talent, creativity would let people win in life (it wasn't that good at it, but it was by far the furthest we've ever been in human history). But it never really answered the simple question: what happen with all the lazy, dumb, unimaginative people? They tried to help them with wealthfare, but wealthfare can't help them more than the hard worker, otherwise the system doesn't reward hard work anymore, so they were still the loser, even if they were very comfortable by historical norm. So, when they have access to voting in someone who promise that, instead, people will be rewarded for their loyalty and belonging to the "right" group, something that require no hard work, talent or creativity, they liked what they heard and swarm them. This is what we are seeing happening across most western nation.

To bring it back to a world police, lets assume it was perfect for the sake of example. Some nation would forgo army and invest heavily in improving their population, some would instead keep a large army around. The one investing in their population would prosper more than the other one. Those one would resent the new system for that. Now if they have any way to modify the world police, they would use that power to dismantle it, so that they can use their army to take over the nation that become more prosperous. And if the participant have no way to modify the system, then if the system is found to be obsolete, due to a change over time or shift in technology, there would be no way to modify it.
 

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A world police is just one regime change from a world dictator, we saw in US that no matter what check and balance you have and whats written in the constitution, organization can change very quickly.

Ultimately, any system will have winner and loser, the loser will naturally band together and do everything in their power to change the system to one where they're not loser anymore. Winner have to prevent that, while also keeping the system afloat. Importantly, winner and loser are relative, a system that make everyone better off, just some more than other, still has winner and loser, even if the loser life improve, they'll still resent the winner for improving more. The inherent problem with "good" system that help everyone is they empower the loser along with the winner, and leave them in a position where they can take over. The liberal order was trying to make a world where hard work, talent, creativity would let people win in life (it wasn't that good at it, but it was by far the furthest we've ever been in human history). But it never really answered the simple question: what happen with all the lazy, dumb, unimaginative people? They tried to help them with wealthfare, but wealthfare can't help them more than the hard worker, otherwise the system doesn't reward hard work anymore, so they were still the loser, even if they were very comfortable by historical norm. So, when they have access to voting in someone who promise that, instead, people will be rewarded for their loyalty and belonging to the "right" group, something that require no hard work, talent or creativity, they liked what they heard and swarm them. This is what we are seeing happening across most western nation.

To bring it back to a world police, lets assume it was perfect for the sake of example. Some nation would forgo army and invest heavily in improving their population, some would instead keep a large army around. The one investing in their population would prosper more than the other one. Those one would resent the new system for that. Now if they have any way to modify the world police, they would use that power to dismantle it, so that they can use their army to take over the nation that become more prosperous. And if the participant have no way to modify the system, then if the system is found to be obsolete, due to a change over time or shift in technology, there would be no way to modify it.
Well, in that system of say a UN army, the best military units would be under UN control. I guess you could make your country a heavy-handed police state, but like you stated, that may not be as wise as you think. And yes, there will always be winners and losers in this system. In this system, or what's left of it, people like me are winners since I have a roof over my head in the US vs., say, someone from the Congo who mines Rare Earths. In the next system, I could be a lesser winner, or 2nd, and a Chinese white collar worker could be the number one place.

Again, there is no best system or even a good system; every system has tradeoffs. And I doubt someone from, say, the Rust Belt, whose may be a former factory worker is really a loser who is lazy, unimagined, and dumb; they just had bad luck, and the life lottery handed them bad luck. And it's also age-dependent as well.

And yes, a world government is just a step away from a tyranny, but that's true of governments right now as well. The good thing is here; at least you can escape a bad government if you have the resources. If you're a world citizen, you couldn't. But that's not my main point. My main point is that in a chaotic world of no police/world police, you only have your country and your nation's power (both soft and hard) to rely on.
 

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Pattern recognition? Seems about every prediction that was supposedly ''deranged'' about Trump came true. Up to the attempt to topple democracy when he lost.
That didn't happen, and you're proving yourself deranged...

But also, there are people on the internet who think Trump only hasn't declared martial law and imprisoned all his enemies because he's waiting to do it symbolically on Hitler's birthday, so lets not get out of hand with the "every prediction coming true" thing.
 

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That didn't happen,
Because he was stopped, not because he didn't try.

But also, there are people on the internet who think Trump only hasn't declared martial law and imprisoned all his enemies because he's waiting to do it symbolically on Hitler's birthday, so lets not get out of hand with the "every prediction coming true" thing.
We've had Trump talk about annexing Canada, lying about immigrants eating pets, starting pointless trade wars with the US's biggest trading partners, blaming DEI for plane crashes, saying that he wants the kind of generals Hitler had, calling Zelensky a tyrant and then lying that he never said that mere days later and calling criticism of him illegal.

There is almost nothing you can accuse Trump of doing that is more ridiculous than what he actually does, even if it is true.
 

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You should take a test for TDS it looks like.
At what point does anything this administration does become fascist to you? What would it take? Or does this all seem completely normal to you?


If this is not a mental illness, than what is?

Well, not that. That's rightwing fashmedia calling a protesters actions deranged. You can see how that is not a scientific or medical diagnosis can't you?

 
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