The real war crime was the Boors we met along the way.Every boor has an excuse.
The real war crime was the Boors we met along the way.Every boor has an excuse.
Swap the second o for an e and you can make that sentence nice and dark.The real war crime was the Boors we met along the way.
You said you had relatives in the army I believe? (Forgive me if I'm mistaken, the comment I'm thinking of is buried in that other thread)News flash: I don't give a hot damn what you think about how I react to people lying about the Iraq War.
Not when the topic of discussion has been so thoroughly debunked and covered not just in politics-junkie circles, but the mainstream media at large for nineteen years predating the Iraq invasion itself, that it is indeed common household knowledge and has been a decisive factor in the past four consecutive Presidential elections. Not when someone is pushing back at a time when Bush's legacy is being actively whitewashed by contrast to Trump, and in that specific context, using the specific lies pushed by neoconservative revisionists to do it, and in no small part to run interference on behalf of Biden who was the war's chief celebrant on the Democratic side of the aisle.
Lying about the Iraq War is something of a red line for me, which I won't entertain under any circumstance regardless which asshole is in office or what the political bent of the speaker is.
I'd rather not share that information, but let's leave it at I've heard more than my fair share of stories about kids versus machine guns, high explosives, and incendiaries in bullshit wars built on lies from two generations.You said you had relatives in the army I believe? (Forgive me if I'm mistaken, the comment I'm thinking of is buried in that other thread)
Of course. If you don't want to talk about it then that's fine. I just thought I'd ask so as to understand your perspective on things better.I'd rather not share that information, but let's leave it at I've heard more than my fair share of stories about kids versus machine guns, high explosives, and incendiaries in bullshit wars built on lies from two generations.
My brother, uncle and cousin all served in Iraq as well, as most of my GW2 guild, however, they are not telling me the same thing you are either.I'd rather not share that information, but let's leave it at I've heard more than my fair share of stories about kids versus machine guns, high explosives, and incendiaries in bullshit wars built on lies from two generations.
4/10/01 | Lone CIA analyst known only as “Joe” tells top Bush brass that aluminum tubes bought by Iraq can only be for nuclear centrifuges. [Date the public knew: 8/10/03] |
8/10/01 | Major air raid on Iraq. |
My family and friends served in Iraq as well, one of my guildies is the only person who survived from his unit. That does not give me an excuse to make an arse of myself if I misunderstand what someone is addressing.Of course. If you don't want to talk about it then that's fine. I just thought I'd ask so as to understand your perspective on things better.
The Bush administration were not innocent victims of their own micromanaged and personally expanded intelligence community.My brother, uncle and cousin all served in Iraq as well, as most of my GW2 guild, however, they are not telling me the same thing you are either.
I was specifically referring to this( from your links above):
4/10/01 Lone CIA analyst known only as “Joe” tells top Bush brass that aluminum tubes bought by Iraq can only be for nuclear centrifuges. [Date the public knew: 8/10/03]
THAT is EXACTLY what I was talking about here and confirms what I just told you. Calling me a liar when your own evidence states the exact same thing I did is pretty messed up tbh. Bush did not receive evidence to to contrary until AFTER the bombs already started to fall.
8/10/01 Major air raid on Iraq.
I was only trying to gain insight into his experience. I did not mean to come off as trying to justify or discredit anyone's arguments based on it.My family and friends served in Iraq as well, one of my guildies is the only person who survived from his unit. That does not give me an excuse to make an arse of myself if I misunderstand what someone is addressing.
I never said that the Bush administration was innocent. Far from it. Cheney is practically Satan himself. I just stated that Bush himself acted on bad intel, not intentionally lying himself about trying to bomb to prevent WMD. The bombs were already dropping before he found out that it was bad intel. Now I wouldn't even doubt if another in his administration set up the bad intel, I just don't think Bush himself knew about it ahead of time. There were plenty of shady as hell POS in his administration at the time so no telling if any of them were involved. Bush was easily manipulated, he wasn't exactly the sharpest tool in the shed.The Bush administration were not innocent victims of their own micromanaged and personally expanded intelligence community.
Just the way Republicans like their leadership: cocky, stupid and credulous.Bush was easily manipulated, he wasn't exactly the sharpest tool in the shed.
If being incompetent produces indistinguishable results from being heinous, and he has apologized for neither, why forgive him?I never said that the Bush administration was innocent. Far from it. Cheney is practically Satan himself. I just stated that Bush himself acted on bad intel, not intentionally lying himself about trying to bomb to prevent WMD. The bombs were already dropping before he found out that it was bad intel. Now I wouldn't even doubt if another in his administration set up the bad intel, I just don't think Bush himself knew about it ahead of time. There were plenty of shady as hell POS in his administration at the time so no telling if any of them were involved. Bush was easily manipulated, he wasn't exactly the sharpest tool in the shed.
Who is asking you to forgive him? Be specific.If being incompetent produces indistinguishable results from being heinous, and he has apologized for neither, why forgive him?
Anyone who’s trying to compare him favorably to Trump as far as I’m concerned.Who is asking you to forgive him? Be specific.
Leftist candidates and policies are divisive, we should remember the glory days of war criminals.Anyone who’s trying to compare him favorably to Trump as far as I’m concerned.
There are less obnoxious places and ways to pick a fight if you're that desperate for a little sparring.Anyone who’s trying to compare him favorably to Trump as far as I’m concerned.
I am an obnoxious boor. I personally don’t care if acknowledging reality is that bothersome for you.There are less obnoxious places and ways to pick a fight if you're that desperate for a little sparring.
Ah, so you're going with the classic defense of assholes everywhere: "That's just who I am and you're too PC to handle it."I am an obnoxious boor. I personally don’t care if acknowledging reality is that bothersome for you.