I don't blindly do what Bernie wants me to do. I like his policies. The only thing that will convince me if Biden still attacking moderate conservatives, and saying more progressive things vs catering to conservatives.
Democrats already proposing austerity before DNC even ends
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Are you even paying attention to what is going on?
Plan to Protect and Build on Obamacare | Joe Biden
Joe Biden will protect and build on Obamacare by giving Americans more choice, reducing health care costs, and making the system less complex to navigate.
joebiden.com
I'm not " blindly" doing anything, it is the most logical well thought out next step anyone with half a brain would do.
He has to cater to conservatives while campaigning or he will lose the districts he is required to flip to win. If that is all it takes, did you even listen to what he said about providing a public option the other night?
Biden discusses healthcare plan at Dem convention
Joe Biden discussed his proposal to improve healthcare and earned an endorsement from a major Medicare for All advocate.
abcnews.go.com
No, that wouldn't convince you either. You'd just move the goalposts again. You're doing this for pride, not principle. There is no solution that satisfies you. You have convinced yourself that 4 more years of Trump is the appropriate punishment for the rest of us for not nominating Bernie.
Are you even paying attention to what is going on?
Stop reading propaganda and pay attention to what they are actually saying. Don't just take anyone's word for it.Plan to Protect and Build on Obamacare | Joe Biden
Joe Biden will protect and build on Obamacare by giving Americans more choice, reducing health care costs, and making the system less complex to navigate.
Democrats Seem All Too Willing to Surrender on Health Care Reform
For-profit health companies are launching a new national ad campaign to persuade Democrats to abandon their plans to create a public health insurance plan — something many elected Democrats are very happy to be convinced of.
www.jacobinmag.com
So clearly the correct answer to let Trump get a 2nd term so he can kill the ACA and thousands of people will die needlessly and that will convince everyone, "Holy shit, we should have listened to Gergar12 when we had the chance! We are dumb!"Democrats Seem All Too Willing to Surrender on Health Care Reform
For-profit health companies are launching a new national ad campaign to persuade Democrats to abandon their plans to create a public health insurance plan — something many elected Democrats are very happy to be convinced of.
Or he could energize progressives nonvoters, POC, and others.
And you would insist that it's all for naught because as soon as he's sworn in he would go back on literally everything. Just like you've already asserted he's going to do. You've consigned yourself to losing, you're just trying to take as many people down with you as you can.
There isn't enough of those in the districts he needs to win. All that does is give us more votes in regions we already have too many in... That is just repeating Hilary Clinton's winning by 3 million votes but lose the election. He has to win moderate and conservative regions or he loses the election.
No, the correct answer is for Biden to be more progressive than he already is which is not a hold lot. That's my point. Stop backtracking on his promises.
Almost as if refusing to participate in our antiquated voting system is a really ineffective way of changing it.
Except you've made pretty clear that even if he said everything you wanted, you have an excuse ready to not believe him. And all the people that would suffer under a second Trump term mean nothing to you so you're okay with letting that happen.
Are you actually reading any of these links? Biden isn't dropping the public option. People other than Biden doing things and gossipin' =\= Biden.Democrats Seem All Too Willing to Surrender on Health Care Reform
For-profit health companies are launching a new national ad campaign to persuade Democrats to abandon their plans to create a public health insurance plan — something many elected Democrats are very happy to be convinced of.
No, I have accepted he either wins, and I lose or Trump wins, and I lose, either way, I lose.
Hillary tried to win in Arizona vs the rust belt.
Within twenty-four hours of the launch of the industry’s new ads, however, anonymous Democratic congressional sources were telling the Hill that Democrats likely won’t bother with the public option fight next year if Biden wins the election. Instead, they said, the party will work to tweak its 2010 health care law, the Affordable Care Act (ACA), which has done little to limit insurance or hospital costs and has failed to ensure universal coverage.
Biden has to still win conservative districts in the rust belt. Lots of Trump strongholds have to be flipped. Hillary lost.
You are linking speculation as evidence of Biden doing something wrong? Gossiping has Zero impact on what Biden actually does here.
Wouldn't your time better be spent on making calls to swing states, You are not changing my mind, and you have wasted an hour or more trying to change one voter's mind.
Reading links is apparently only for sheeple like us. True progressives don't need to vet their citations, their moral superiority makes it impossible for them to make a wrong call.
Yes, exactly, you're thinking of this election only in terms of yourself. Nobody else matters. This is the closest you've gotten to outright admitting it.
Which tells me that you only ever get involved during election season and utterly fail to keep the pressure up the rest of the time. So once again, your refusal to vote is having the exact opposite effect of making you special.
Calls are useless. Boots on the ground are what are needed. That and VOTING. LMAO I got a letter from Trump asking for donations. And rather than have it come from his campaign, it comes from " the office of the President of the United States." .. yea like that is going to happen.
Calls just piss people off.