Biden v. Trump Election Mega Thread

Who will win the election?

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Revnak

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Not that anyone would know he was carrying anyway if he weren't killed in cold blood.
This presumes he had no plans to shoot people, which we will never know.

AntiFA isn't a group with solid membership remember so he can say he is and that makes his word enough on it.
Don’t see where I disagreed with that.

You quoted a specific part of my post with a specific video in it. Not my problem if you quoted the wrong thing or were referring to things not in the quoted section.

Also in the 2nd video at least the Police weren't hassling protesters at all.
Contextually it was pretty obvious.

Oh you mean when the black driver went onto the Freeway and some AntiFa ones had set up a block and were protesting there in the middle of the freeway after a corner, in low light conditions, wearing mostly black, without the car headlights on for the cars used as the blockade barrier?

Also "accidents"........ so not deliberate incidents likes Charlottesville then as you were implying........
That one was an accident, though that meets your standard when reversed, given you yourself included killed accidentally with fire works or power tools.

People may also be familiar with the Millionaires Son who jumped in front of the car of the head of the college he went to and claimed the guy tried to run him over too......
That’s only analogous to the rest of what I’ve mentioned in your imagination. There’s a reason I’m not going down this road.
Seems more intellectually dishonest to ask me to blindly accept things or conflates things claiming they are the same when they can be shown to be different and not truly conflatable.
Not what I’ve ever said you should do, and funny you bring up conflations after the millionaire post there.
It also seems quite intellectually dishonest to be trying to carry on with the same techniques designed to pull at psychological strings. I'd have thought you'd have realise I've had them used often enough on me they stopped working long ago.
You’re a few decades late for sheeple jokes my dude. I’m not manipulating your psychology. I’m manipulating mine. I’m doing this for my own entertainment.
Well they at least turned up with the weapons in the video.
Bro I’m not watching a Crowder video. He’s a lying grifter.
1) The argument was about groups showing intent vs bluster so that seemed like a good video to show a difference.
2) You were the one who started bringing up other events to begin with and said that was how you planned to respond to me. Fair is fair now come on you can't object to me doing similar back to you if you're arguing in truly good faith yourself here
Oh god you’re confused again. I’m talking about the ARTICLE you posted about an event on AUGUST 4TH that you used to object to the idea they came intending to do harm weeks later. You gave zero context then didn’t defend my objection.

I may not agree with the guy but the video in this case is hard to dispute. Seems you care more about a persons identity than their point in the moment. To you it would seem a point is only as worthy as the person saying it which is very much how a lot of bad faith arguing happens as your position isn't dictated by the information just who is giving it you.
When the guy’s a lying grifter who engages in manipulative editing, yeah, he’s a garbage source. You also already objected to my source for being Antifa, which Robert Evans would actually give a lengthy qualification to. Also he’s a conflict Journalist who covered the Syrian Civil War and ISIS, so he’s an infinitely better source than fucking Crowder.
Also come on it would be body pillow of a future Queen or her sister Pipa.......
God the British are depressing.
 

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No because then bringing up minorities separately would be superfluous possibly even a tautology.
You realize when people talk they repeat themselves for clarification or emphasis, particularly Trump, which is... you know what, nevermind. Intentional or accidental, your “misunderstanding” here has the same effect.
 

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So far because some are likely still hoping for a democrat comment or response.
This stuff's been going on for months.Not sure what they're waiting for. It's almost like Trump fucking repulses most of the population and Biden comes on looking better by sounding reasonable and not acting like a screaming toddler every fucking day. Trump has set the bar that low.

Biden's Polling has been holding stable, the dems are running +7 on the generic ballot and giving the GOP close races in red states. Trump himself is running margin of error or even behind in states he won by 5-10 points in 2016. That says something. I shouldn't haven to explain it though I'm sure you're going to tell me numbers don't exist or something, like Pythagoras on opposite day.

And yet Biden won't condemn the burning down of businesses some of which were peoples livelihoods or life's work to built up.
You know, research is a thing. You should try it.

Or is this a disingenuous attempt to pretend protesters and rioters are the same thing?

You're saying all Poor people are minorities? seems like a racist stereotype there to me
He's the one saying it. I don't think it's a coincidence he's lumping the two together and then saying they're ruining america. Seriously dude, do I have to explain reading comprehension to you as well as trends?

Which I seem to remember Trump walking back on too
He walked it back after 5 years of constant "Where's the Birth Ceritifcate, Obama?" in a way nobody thinks in sincere.

And then started in on Harris was announced as VP pick. That doesn't show he's sorry about it, it shows he got bored of doing it Obama or was trying to score cheap points.


I'm really not sure why I'm bothering anymore. You're not interesting in listening or reading anything, just findings way to absolve your toddler of anything resembling responsibly for he's said and done since taking office for reasons I can't understand. I guess he must be glad you're doing the work of his PR team for free(and what's more like the man then getting free work out of someone?).
 
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I'm really not sure why I'm bothering anymore. You're not interesting in listening or reading anything, just findings way to absolve your toddler of anything resembling responsibly for he's said and done since taking office for reasons I can't understand. I guess he must be glad you're doing the work of his PR team for free.
I think he’s trying to play devils advocate in an arena he perceives as a liberal circle jerk and is actually a radical centrist type, but functionally these are the same thing.
 
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I think he’s trying to play devils advocate in an arena he perceives as a liberal circle jerk and is actually a radical centrist type, but functionally these are the same thing.
I would think an actual devils advocate would try harder, not just saying random stuff that sounds good to him and nobody else. Perhaps I'm expecting too much.
 

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This presumes he had no plans to shoot people, which we will never know.
Yes cause generally it's innocent until proven guilty. Otherwise we just end up with pre-crime from Minority Report or algorithms judging people guilty like Watch_Dogs 2

Don’t see where I disagreed with that.
So you agree him claiming to be AntiFA makes him so.

Contextually it was pretty obvious.
Not really you could have thought the people in the video were cops

That one was an accident, though that meets your standard when reversed, given you yourself included killed accidentally with fire works or power tools.
Yes but it is rather different to Charlottesville wouldn't you say?

That’s only analogous to the rest of what I’ve mentioned in your imagination. There’s a reason I’m not going down this road.
Well contextually as it was on about people jumping infront of traffic it was quite relevant. Also good for you not going down that road of jumping into it infront of cars.

Not what I’ve ever said you should do, and funny you bring up conflations after the millionaire post there.
Well he was pulling the same oppression card and claiming systematic racism was keeping him down somehow

You’re a few decades late for sheeple jokes my dude. I’m not manipulating your psychology. I’m manipulating mine. I’m doing this for my own entertainment.
Not really a joke. If you're doing it consciously or just passing the stuff off that you've seen about is the true question.

Bro I’m not watching a Crowder video. He’s a lying grifter.
Hard to falsify what was shown and IF it's a lie then there will be evidence to counter it right?

Oh god you’re confused again. I’m talking about the ARTICLE you posted about an event on AUGUST 4TH that you used to object to the idea they came intending to do harm weeks later. You gave zero context then didn’t defend my objection.
And I presented other objections too.

When the guy’s a lying grifter who engages in manipulative editing, yeah, he’s a garbage source. You also already objected to my source for being Antifa, which Robert Evans would actually give a lengthy qualification to. Also he’s a conflict Journalist who covered the Syrian Civil War and ISIS, so he’s an infinitely better source than fucking Crowder.
And yet Crowder has on video the stuff being said. Yes it's possible they edited all the worst bits together to show just them and not them talking about getting vanilla smoothies and going to the petting zoo but they still did say those things and said things did happen. I mean if it's so false there would be evidence to counter it. Also again the source is Eugene AntiFA for the document. If you check some of the links in the chat logs they also comeback as no results.

God the British are depressing.
Glad you think so.
 

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You realize when people talk they repeat themselves for clarification or emphasis, particularly Trump, which is... you know what, nevermind. Intentional or accidental, your “misunderstanding” here has the same effect.
yes however you generally don't do tautologies which is repetition in quick succession often in the same sentence.
 

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This stuff's been going on for months.Not sure what they're waiting for. It's almost like Trump fucking repulses most of the population and Biden comes on looking better by sounding reasonable and not acting like a screaming toddler every fucking day. Trump has set the bar that low.
Yeh but people will take the screaming Toddler who is mostly non harmful even if due to being ineffectual over "Your buisness was burned down in the name of progress and you should be happy about that." implied silence over the issue.

Biden's Polling has been holding stable, the dems are running +7 on the generic ballot and giving the GOP close races in red states. Trump himself is running margin of error or even behind in states he won by 5-10 points in 2016. That says something. I shouldn't haven to explain it though I'm sure you're going to tell me numbers don't exist or something, like Pythagoras on opposite day.
Yeh but in some places the Trump swing was somewhat unprecedented. I mean I remember there was some real shock on election night. Hell literally days before the election there was shock at claims of Hillary cancelling some elements of her victory celebration. Even the freaking betting odds at the time had Trump losing until the day of the election.


You know, research is a thing. You should try it.

Or is this a disingenuous attempt to pretend protesters and rioters are the same thing?
I'll stand corrected then.

Though if people wish to argue equivalence then either Trump should be accepted as having condemned white supremacists or Biden shouldn't be accepted as condemning the violence because he didn't do so at the debates......Fair is fair after all


He's the one saying it. I don't think it's a coincidence he's lumping the two together and then saying they're ruining america. Seriously dude, do I have to explain reading comprehension to you as well as trends?
Except he's not lumping them together he specifically mentioned them as separate entities


He walked it back after 5 years of constant "Where's the Birth Ceritifcate, Obama?" in a way nobody thinks in sincere.
Ah like how Hillary walked back "Obama boys" ?

And then started in on Harris was announced as VP pick. That doesn't show he's sorry about it, it shows he got bored of doing it Obama or was trying to score cheap points.


I'm really not sure why I'm bothering anymore. You're not interesting in listening or reading anything, just findings way to absolve your toddler of anything resembling responsibly for he's said and done since taking office for reasons I can't understand. I guess he must be glad you're doing the work of his PR team for free(and what's more like the man then getting free work out of someone?).
Seem like he's playing political point scoring more than anything else.

See people think I'm trying to absolve Trump but really I'm just fed up of the frothing rage and taking anything and everything as some malicious act by him.

E.G. the democrat woman with a history of domestic abuse against her husband who killed him with poison and claimed she just put fish tank cleaner in both their drinks because Trump said hydroxychloroquine helps fight coronavirus and the fish tank cleaner claimed to have it in there. Big furore of how Trump's nonsense had killed a person and Trump was to blame, it was only later her history of domestic abuse and her being a democrat came to light after the story had circulated round a lot of places presenting Trump as responsible not him being used as an easy excuse to avoid accusations of deliberately poisoning her husband.
 

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Though I am not even sure if all that would be enough to make him behave like a normal person..
 
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How goes the saying, that like 80% of communication is non-verbal and that is definitely at full display here. Trump is just dominant. Proud and self-absorbed and speaks like he owns the place. It's a charm that people feel attracted to, regardless of the man's dubious stature or repetitive monologues(or maybe because of it idk). Biden is just very timid in comparison. He looked a few times like he was going to cry. I actually felt a bit sorry for him, like he was the bullied kid in front of the big bully.

He seems like a nice guy but Biden is a strategic blunder for the Democrats. I feel like they would have made much more chance with Bernie because of his wit, eloquence and sharp intellect.
To most people it looked more like this:

He embarrassed himself and the nation for electing someone who behaved like an angry kid mad at the class for making fun of him.
 

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To most people it looked more like this:

He embarrassed himself and the nation for electing someone who behaved like an angry kid mad at the class for making fun of him.
I mean that is the turning point of how Al Gore is seen to have lost to George W Bush.............
 

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I mean that is the turning point of how Al Gore is seen to have lost to George W Bush.............
Bush never acted like Trump. No presidential candidate in memory has behaved like Trump though..
Some candidates talk over one another at times, that is expected. Some resemblance of decorum however was still maintained. Trump was even arguing with the moderator and even according to the moderator, he had never seen anything like it in all his years in the field.

 
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Bush never acted like Trump. No presidential candidate in memory has behaved like Trump though..
No Al Gore was seen as "domineering" in one debate and walked up behind Bush Jr who then turned round and said something like "Oh hello there" and went back to debating which apparently made Bush seem more personable and made Al Gore look weak because it was seen as him trying to intimidate Bush who then just showed how little he was intimidated and essentially made it into a little bit of a joke.
 
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No Al Gore was seen as "domineering" in one debate and walked up behind Bush Jr who then turned round and said something like "Oh hello there" and went back to debating which apparently made Bush seem more personable and made Al Gore look weak because it was seen as him trying to intimidate Bush who then just showed how little he was intimidated and essentially made it into a little bit of a joke.
I added most to the post above. No one has acted like Trump though. Biden calling him a clown and telling him to shut up was seen as " being a gentleman" in comparison.
 

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I added most to the post above. No one has acted like Trump though. Biden calling him a clown and telling him to shut up was seen as " being a gentleman" in comparison.
yeh no-one has.
Biden telling him to shut up kind of seemed like Biden losing it a little though too (also reflects poorly on the moderator for not trying to reel Trump in more)
 
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yeh no-one has.
Biden telling him to shut up kind of seemed like Biden losing it a little though too (also reflects poorly on the moderator for not trying to reel Trump in more)
Not really, everyone watching pretty well thought that was a very restrained response, though the look on his face while trump was acting crazy was pretty funny. Biden was looking at him with his head slightly to the side like in disbelief as if saying, " Are you for real? You are seriously behaving like a loon on National TV like that?" Like can you believe this guy is really doing that?! LOL

All Biden was missing there was one of his buddies standing next to him for him to nudge with his elbow and point saying, "Get a load of this nut", like he was watching a clown.
 
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To most people it looked more like this:

He embarrassed himself and the nation for electing someone who behaved like an angry kid mad at the class for making fun of him.
And once again, this quote is relevant:

Trump is a poor man's idea of a rich man, a weak man's idea of a strong man, and a stupid man's idea of a smart man.
 
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