No, her gag is more that she’s a sort of soap box Sadie for droid liberation and equality; she also wants to bang Lando. Honestly I thought she was hilarious, and considering they lacked the infinite well of charisma that is Harrison Ford at age 21, Solo is a pretty solid heist flick in space.
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It isn't. It's just examples of "progressive or radical feminist ideologies" in games. Games can contain those elements without being games ABOUT those elements. Those elements can also detrimentally impact the game to the degree proportional to their inclusion.
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No, its worse than that, hes a conspiracy theorists. Which means its pointless to talk to him since its insanely difficult to logic someone out of that hole.
1) It's based on a load of stereotypes
2) That only only hold true for a small minority and
3) Comes off as boring and lecturing as though men are too stupid to get it otherwise.
Men don't have preferred brands and just go with whatever their wives pick out for them?
Even twitter was roasting them lol
Which is an indication of how much people don't like it
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That's such an old-fashioned view of women, doing all the shopping, taking care of all the domestics. How sexist! Sounds like he needs to watch a few more progressive commercials until he gets up to speed and joins us here in $CURRENT_YEAR
I'm pretty sure there's no major games with said ideologies. Very few major games are about anything that you'd consider important let alone your very specific thing that you're looking for. I wouldn't be surprised if there's a couple of indie games that fit the bill but them selling or not selling isn't really surprising as that's indie games in general. Gamers decried that they don't want politics in their games (which is just asinine) and there's Disco Elysium winning best RPG at the most commercial game awards there is. Any commercial product with a radical view of anything is in very low quantity because why would a company would to instantly lose out on a large chunk of potential customers. Heck, Assassin's Creed's original historical fiction plot premise (I have no idea where the series plot is at now) is pretty shocking for a video game and that series has been extremely successful.
Still waiting on a list of major titles that actually fit your very specific and never explained requirements...
If none of these games exist, then there's no examples of them being either successful or unsuccessful and thus the opposite is true in that there's no example of it being a bad idea either.
It's always been OK.
The issue is the reaction to it and the push (once again) that because some-one doesn't enjoy it it shouldn't exist.
In the case of Gillette people voiced their displeasure and if the what was it 7 Billion loss is anything to go buy at least in part stopped buying the thing. They didn't try to get the CEO fired as a sexist. They didn't try to drum people out of the industry
Black Panther = That had a huge push for it and a lot of gas-lighting in the media about being the first Black superhero film. It's a trick that can only be pulled once.
Spiderverse = People actually like Miles as he's seen as a character first and a skin colour second. Also his Dad's a Cop.
Captain Marvel = We may never know fully with that one with reports of empty screenings (how true they are who knows) and being sold as "the start of Endgame" or "A prequel bit with info relevant to Endgame"
Endgame = yes the final film in a huge phase of the MCU, other than a few moments it really wasn't that woke
Also Solo got a fair bit of media attention was due to Pansexual Lando and his Robot revolutionary girlfriend mostly.
But Ok lets play a game.
I won't even pick the games myself
For this lot of evidence I hall use New Normative a self proclaimed progressive gaming website and their list of claimed right wing boycotts against what are presumably meant as progressive games.
A Complete Right-Wing Gamer Boycott List – New Normative
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Ready?
Destiny = No evidence it impacted sales, though no actual evidence of an organised boycott either.
Wolfenstein 2 = Well PC Games N claimed sales were sluggish though Totalbiscuit did say the game was actually worse than the first
Bioware / Mass Effect Andromeda = Well they abandoned DLC plans so it likely wasn't profitable enough though better sales info is hard to come buy.
Gamefreak because of Pokemon Jinx changes = No but no real evidence of a boycott called for either
Insomniac Spider man over Trump Travel ban comments = No evidence of an actual call to boycott again.
Fire Emblem, removing one of the minigames = No evidence of an actual call to boycott again.
Life is Strange 2 = As found by users on Reset Era is launched with only 1/4 the number of people bothering to play it that most recent entry saw and 2,000 less people than even the first game
EA over BAttlefield V = The Layman covered the numbers on that one though my impression of the game was it hadn't advanced much since Battlefield 3 in terms of gameplay or engine capabilities.
Rockstar because in Red Dead you can Kill KKK members = No evidence of an actual call to boycott again. Funnily enough there was more anger and articles about a guy feeding a suffragette to crocodiles
Campo Santo for abusing DMCA against Pewdiepie = Well I dunno but Vale were able to buy them up and the new game they were working on is now on hold indefinitely.
Stardew Vallye = No but no real evidence of a boycott called for either
CDPR for apologising for a tweet = No but no real evidence of a boycott called for either but plenty of people keep yelling CDPR are transphobic online even to this day.
2K games due to communism = No but no real evidence of a boycott called for either
Not listed but also worth pointing to as possible get woke go broke moments. (if you want I can provide links for some of these but please say which)
the America Chavez stand alone series - character herself is fine the writing was apparently the big issue.
The captain Marvel comic series
Goddess Mode by DC and the Vertigo relaunch
In gaming:
Rumours Tacoma only didn't fail due to Microsoft exclusivity
Where the Water tastes like Wine failing to break even.
Revolution 60 failing to break even / selling poorly
Not Tonight the post Brexit dystopian game pushed by a number of places sold only ~8,000 copies in total.
The Chinese Room who were vocal in their support of Remain in brexit campiagns having to close their studio and go back to being a 2 person team working from their home.
Tale of Tales literally having to close down and leave gaming, until they got more arts council funding after their one non arts council funded game failed to sell enough to keep them going.
To be clear Woke and diverse are two different things. Wokeness tends to feel poorly thought out and artificial.
Take let say Killjoys the series, not considered woke really and not held up as something great:
Diverse cast
Black Female lead
She's a bounty Hunter
Takes down male characters bigger than herself with skill and technique.
Gay character who reveals he is kind of seriously kick ass
Bi character and one implied to be Bi-curious
Lesbian characters.
Then take Vagrant queen which was on the same network just after Killjoys ended and held up as some beacon of being progressive but came off as woke.
Black female lead whose also secretly an empress or something.
Implied to be bi / a lesbian
Another character on the crew is implied to be bi-lesbian.
Apparently features the colour pink a lot in the show.
Gets praised by most characters as her being badass.
Lead male character is described in the trailers as a deadbeat and she punches him when he says something that upsets her apparently.
Takes down soldiers bigger than herself by punching them in the chest and them fall over
the America Chavez stand alone series - character herself is fine the writing was apparently the big issue.
The captain Marvel comic series
Goddess Mode by DC and the Vertigo relaunch
In gaming:
Rumours Tacoma only didn't fail due to Microsoft exclusivity
Where the Water tastes like Wine failing to break even.
Revolution 60 failing to break even / selling poorly
Not Tonight the post Brexit dystopian game pushed by a number of places sold only ~8,000 copies in total.
The Chinese Room who were vocal in their support of Remain in brexit campiagns having to close their studio and go back to being a 2 person team working from their home.
Tale of Tales literally having to close down and leave gaming, until they got more arts council funding after their one non arts council funded game failed to sell enough to keep them going.
To be clear Woke and diverse are two different things. Wokeness tends to feel poorly thought out and artificial.
Take let say Killjoys the series, not considered woke really and not held up as something great:
Diverse cast
Black Female lead
She's a bounty Hunter
Takes down male characters bigger than herself with skill and technique.
Gay character who reveals he is kind of seriously kick ass
Bi character and one implied to be Bi-curious
Lesbian characters.
Then take Vagrant queen which was on the same network just after Killjoys ended and held up as some beacon of being progressive but came off as woke.
Black female lead whose also secretly an empress or something.
Implied to be bi / a lesbian
Another character on the crew is implied to be bi-lesbian.
Apparently features the colour pink a lot in the show.
Gets praised by most characters as her being badass.
Lead male character is described in the trailers as a deadbeat and she punches him when he says something that upsets her apparently.
Takes down soldiers bigger than herself by punching them in the chest and them fall over
I haven't, it's not something based on my personal opinion. You still haven't explained your perplexing accusation and assumptions from earlier, you just spouted nonsense and moved on.
Elysium is good because of the storytelling and deep systems. It has good writing and complex idea-based branching dialogue and a lot of freedom for doing things your way that the world reacts to in an intuitive and organic way.
It also is very political too, but it is not good because it is political.
I think that's the key point here. You can have a game be both political and good, but it needs to have a whooooooole lot more going on for it. For one, you can't just have one political viewpoint put on a pedestal. Because that veers from entertainment or enlightenment to propaganda. Elysium is good about this because you can be left or right or center or not give a damn about anything. There's a lot of other examples like MGS where they have a very severe anti-war message...but they deliver it in a context of Ninja cyborgs fighting mobile nuke robots and clone armies of hot ladies and a million other epic stuff, so it doesn't feel like it despises one side, rather, it respects it and finds it cool, but also is highly critical of it and thinks it is wrong. Showing this level of nuance is imperative if you wanna have a political game.
Much like with diversity, politics can be done right in games, but you can't have this preachy propagandistic approach with them. And you game needs to have more to it than just them to be good.
They're like a seasoning, a touch of salt can make a crappy meal into something tasty but you can't just subsist on salt.
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See people say MGS is Anti-War and it is but it's nuanced in it's approach and it also presents the "World without War" and how that can go horribly wrong. It doesn't pretend to have the true answers to how to end war.
I'm not 100% clear on the fully Metal Gear Solid through line but my understanding is MGS4 shows the issues of that world without war and it hasn't ended fighting it's just ended war. instead of war it's mercenary groups in constant skirmishes in various countries because the economy the Patriots have set up demands conflict of some kind thus war is ended because it's no longer got an end but is a perpetual thing going on.
However In MGS 3 it's shown the that to prevent war you sometimes needs to make sacrifices and that's how the series starts sort of with Snake being unhappy with the sacrifices and trying to find a better alternative of some kind.
People who call Black Panther the first black super hero movie make me angry.
It is like the African American community doesnt support their own kick ass media.
Oh because Black Panther was mainstram and big? That's the only reason it was celebrated.
Nobody remembers Shaft, Spawn, or fucking Black Dynamite!!! I mean come on people ya'll is missing dope black led movies.
Oh and to hell with anyone who didnt like Shaquille O'Neil's movies. Those were awesome.
Oh what about Meteor Man staring Robert Townsend. That movie was also really cool.
Im white and i just farted these out off the top of my head.
Because the media wants to make black film leads a big deal as if they never happened before. But black led movies have been happening and awesome for a long time. But not that they are pretending it is a rare and crazy thing you would think we are still in the racist 1950's.
People have moved on from those views for the most part. The media just wants to make it seem like we havent because outrage and sensationalism brings in money.
It is like the African American community doesnt support their own kick ass media.
Oh because Black Panther was mainstram and big? That's the only reason it was celebrated.
Nobody remembers Shaft, Spawn, or fucking Black Dynamite!!! I mean come on people ya'll is missing dope black led movies.
Oh and to hell with anyone who didnt like Shaquille O'Neil's movies. Those were awesome.
Oh what about Meteor Man staring Robert Townsend. That movie was also really cool.
Im white and i just farted these out off the top of my head.
Because the media wants to make black film leads a big deal as if they never happened before. But black led movies have been happening and awesome for a long time. But not that they are pretending it is a rare and crazy thing you would think we are still in the racist 1950's.
People have moved on from those views for the most part. The media just wants to make it seem like we havent because outrage and sensationalism brings in money.
Hopefully this narrative jumps off a cliff once we go back to the new status-quo, pretend 2016-2020 never happened and carry on with our lives.
Imagine that. People that you lump into progressive because of their race/sex/sexuality. Just gonna put it out there but being a gay person doesn't automatically put you in as a progressive. Or trans. Or black. Because that is stupid
I think you've been Onioned, broA Complete Right-Wing Gamer Boycott List – New Normative
The part where you advocated for burning things because you didn't like them? Here's a bit of a reminder:
Then you pretended you didn't because getting offended is bad
Yeah. I blew right past it because you aren't interest in having a conversation. Like what's the point? You just going to pretend your right and I'm wrong. I got it man, you think I'm wrong. Dont worry, Gillette will be fine without you or me
What are you talking about? Black people point these out all the time. Well, maybe not Spawn. But I still like Spawn.
And you forgot Blade. How dare you...
Where did I advocate burning things because I didn't like them. Seriously there is a huge comms issue here.
I think the people who say things like Black Panther is the first black superhero movie are normies who think superhero movies started being a thing when the first Avengers came out, or Spiderman if I am charitable. I don't expect them to even know Blade is a comic hero even if they remember the movie existing.
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