Do you disagree that people could dislike the concept of an idea being shoved down their throat without being against the idea itself?No thank you. I never bought that bullshit the first time around.
Do you disagree that people could dislike the concept of an idea being shoved down their throat without being against the idea itself?No thank you. I never bought that bullshit the first time around.
You should already know the answer to that. You done? Because you're boring me.Do you disagree that people could dislike the concept of an idea being shoved down their throat without being against the idea itself?
I don't. Will you tell me?You should already know the answer to that.
Then why are you even here? Get out of your own topic before I sic the mods on you!Because you're boring me.
Then why are you even here? Get out of your own topic before I sic the mods on you!
That's you. I'm doing an impression of you.
There will always be politics I don't agree with, but that doesn't mean I'm going to get rid of them, nor try to force my opinion on others because of it. It's their game, film or specific work. They get to make the decisions. Him, her, or whoever. If it's something intended to hurt others because they are of a different race, religion, or gender, I will always call it out and their hatred.I will say this because you have a habit of derailing a thread. And there is no misunderstanding. They're going to be politics in games, movies or books, intentional or not. Get the fuck over it. Now if they are done with grace, subtlety, tact, or in your face is a matter of opinion. well sometimes you do have to be blunt with politics just to make sure people know or they don't act like certain things exist. That's life. getting rid of them are trying to diminish them will not make things better or easier period if anything you're cheating others and you are especially cheating yourself. You can never learn to grow, adapt, or look at things from a alternate perspective. Otherwise just become another person that likes the smell of their own farts.
Good points? You mean like "You should already know the answer to that. You done? Because you're boring me"?I do find it funny that you start throwing temper tantrum and acting childish, when people bring up good points.
Like I said before: you have a fundamentally flawed understanding of what this is all about. Nobody wants to "get rid of politics they don't agree with"There will always be politics I don't agree with, but that doesn't mean I'm going to get rid of them,
I mean i feel like even his negative ranty jimquistions are harder to watch and less popular these days. I could look at the viewership when i get time and check. I dunno there just is something that strikes me as off about his stuff lately.He doesn't like talking about it either, and has commented multiple times, in response to the comments criticizing him for this, that he'd LOVE to talk about something else, but that it's an important issue, that isn't being addressed, and he feels it's something that needs to not be forgotten once the next new hot title is released, and everyone's short term memory is reset. I mean it's pretty apparent that the half-life for people's outrage over the gaming industry, is however long before the next title they want to play is. And he thinks that's a pretty shitty way to ignore the criminal activities of companies that control massive amounts of wealth in the world.
Yeah but, nobody was watching those jimpressions. I mean he did an entire video talking about the contradiction between what his viewers say they want, and what the metrics actually show they engage in. The bottom line, is that when he tries to NOT talk about the shitty aspects of the gaming industry, he gets less than half the traffic to his videos. When he does positive videos, talking about a game he really loved, or something else positive, very few people watch it. So, why should he spend his time and energy, making content, that isn't actually what his viewing base apparently want to see?
This is how he makes a living, so he has to make the stuff that continues to pay the bills. And that is apparently, not stuff like jimpressions.
There you go, doing it again. Acting like a big baby about it. There's a big bottle of milk waiting for you at the end. Do you want whole, 1% or 2% milk? You get to make that choice.Good points? You mean like "You should already know the answer to that. You done? Because you're boring me"?
Or like "No thank you"?
Like I said before: you have a fundamentally flawed understanding of what this is all about. Nobody wants to "get rid of politics they don't agree with"
If you don't understand what people mean when they say "keep politics out of X" then we can't have a discussion about it. I'm willing to walk you through the thought process, but you said "No thank you".
So until you either educate yourself or allow someone to guide you through the viewpoint, you're not equipped to discuss this topic.
Oh, whoops, I threw a major temper tantrum there. Boy I'm so mad right now /s
You don't have to look at the viewership, Jim's already done it. He did an entire Jimquisition episode specifically talking about the fact that his negative, ranting, "the industry sucks" videos, are the ones that get the most traffic, by a significant margin. And he's got way more access to the metrics of his own YT channel than anyone else. I tried finding that specific video, but a quick scan didn't really have a title pop out at me. But he seriously did an entire episode. He brought up the fact, that he gets comments all the time, about how people want him to talk about something else, but the actual numbers say otherwise. When he DOES talk about other stuff, roughly half, or less than half (I forget exactly), tune in.I mean i feel like even his negative ranty jimquistions are harder to watch and less popular these days. I could look at the viewership when i get time and check. I dunno there just is something that strikes me as off about his stuff lately.
*shrugs* Maybe, that's always a possibility. My tastes for things wax and wane all the time.Maybe im just over it. Fatigue maybe..
I wouldn't know, I never watched his jimpressions really. The games were often ones I just don't have any interest in, so I never really felt any desire to watch him play them, good or bad impressions.He might pop up the occasional jimpressions still but his frequency has fallen dramatically and even his other editorial pieces have fallen off.
Again, I think this is because a few factors.He has done zero coverage on stories around the next gen consoles. He hasnt said a word about the latest Ubisoft games (which is understandable because i believe he has cut them out of his content entirely due to recent activities).
Both. Though not as much in the V2 board.
Which is pathetic on both extremes part. Not ever person is going to hate on you for disliking something, unless spend your whole life on Twittter, Facebook, and YouTube. But the ones that don't want to see politics in anything, intentional or otherwise, do not want to think because it's inconvenient for them. They want to be mindless sheep without actually admitting it, despite saying otherwise.
Which is just a fancy way of saying "It's not my fault!" or "Never my fault!". They never want nor believe they should take any responsibility or accountability. How childish can people like that get? Rhetorical, so one answer that.
There will always be politics in something. Even the simplest things:
I can go on all day.
- Sonic - Environmentalism.
- Metal Gear Franchise - Militarism, nuclear weapons, and how war is hell/bad.
- Missile Command - The threat of WWIII and nuclear armageddon.
- Resident Evil - Corporate greed and biological and viral weapons and warfare.
- Oddworld - Corporate greed and treating employees exactly like slaves.
- Ghost of Tsushima - The samurai and the old Japanese cast system.
- Streets of Rage - Police corruption.
- Final Fight - The mayor taking vigilante justice in his own hands.
- Catherine - Marital and relationship commitment.
- GTA - Gang warfare, criminal empires, prostitution, and police corruption.
My dislike for TLOU2 is because it's your typical, cliche revenge is bad, so it's boring. Male or female, all of the characters are terrible people with almost no one to root for nor hold sympathy for. It's grim dark misery porn that acts like it has something important to say when it wastes over 14 hours of the player's time. While the people in charge are hyping it up because it has "strong female characters" and act like it should be showered in praise for doing nothing. When other games, before, during, and after, have done a better job in all categories. Also, those in charge try to silent others for criticizing those complaints, whether legit or not.
It's hard to have a discussion about "politics in games" when you refuse to consider viewpoints other than your own.I understand perfectly, it's you that does not understand.
I do consider viewpoints other than my own. You just have a habit of deflecting or flinging out facts or points. You can keep doing this all day, because I'm freaking done and getting back on track. You have fun with the persecution complex. Your problem.It's hard to have a discussion about "politics in games" when you refuse to consider viewpoints other than your own.
Just what is the track you think this topic is supposed to be on? All you did is throw up a video. You didn't raise a point or pose a question. So what is this topic supposed to be about? Is this just a comments section for the video? Are we just supposed to list games with politics in them, like you've been doing?getting back on track.
Opinions are like assholes; everyone has one. Despite what you may believe, yours isn't particularly special except for its disconnect with reality.It's hard to have a discussion about "politics in games" when you refuse to consider viewpoints other than your own.
So once again the argument boils down to, "Other people aren't playing games correctly."Then, you have other games which are about whatever, but the climate outside of them is pushing politics into them where they do not belong. Take for example Horizon Zero Dawn, that game is about neocavemen fighting cyborg dinosaurs in a dystopia, but just because the hero is female people are trying to make a feministy case about it when the game has nothing to do with any of that stuff. This is the objectionable bit.
Correctamundo.You don't have to look at the viewership, Jim's already done it. He did an entire Jimquisition episode specifically talking about the fact that his negative, ranting, "the industry sucks" videos, are the ones that get the most traffic, by a significant margin. And he's got way more access to the metrics of his own YT channel than anyone else. I tried finding that specific video, but a quick scan didn't really have a title pop out at me. But he seriously did an entire episode. He brought up the fact, that he gets comments all the time, about how people want him to talk about something else, but the actual numbers say otherwise. When he DOES talk about other stuff, roughly half, or less than half (I forget exactly), tune in.
*shrugs* Maybe, that's always a possibility. My tastes for things wax and wane all the time.
I wouldn't know, I never watched his jimpressions really. The games were often ones I just don't have any interest in, so I never really felt any desire to watch him play them, good or bad impressions.
Again, I think this is because a few factors.
1. People watch his more politically/industry charged videos than anything else, and he has bills to pay during a pandemic.
2. He just doesn't actually care to talk about those games, because of how shitty the publishers are. He's discussed multiple times about the conflict for people who are morally opposed to the behavior of a company/person that produces something they love, and buying said thing. And I'm pretty sure he's mostly on the side of "I'm not going to play their games, because fuck those companies." So, is it really a surprise that he isn't covering things like the latest ubisoft games, when he's specifically said, "fuck those guys and their products" ? I think he's just streamlining his time, and he'd rather spend his weekly videos, talking about the things that often get ignored in the gaming industry, because very few people are talking about it. Or if they do bring it up, it's quickly forgotten a week later, because OMG Blizzard dropped a new trailer for D4!! Or whatever similar wag the dog type thing comes up.
*shrugs* That's my take anyway.
Lots of things can be called "insecurity". Needing to be overly muscular in order to seem as though you're strong is insecurity and overcompensation.How is that not just insecurity? And who the fuck is making you write essays?
Less "playing" and more "interpreting" I guess? Distorting precious cultural artifacts which people are passionately devoted to, to promote your political ideology in a mercenary utilitarian way is bound to ruffle the feathers of the earnest fans.So once again the argument boils down to, "Other people aren't playing games correctly."
I have no idea what you think you're saying. My point was if your argument comes from a place of insecurity, no one is obligated to act on your complaints. Your complaints are only symptomatic of other problems.Lots of things can be called "insecurity". Needing to be overly muscular in order to seem as though you're strong is insecurity and overcompensation.
That doesn't stop people from deeming such a character as a "strong woman" or them from criticizing people who are critical of said character.
Calling something insecurity is not an argument.
So, once again, your problem is that people aren't playing video games correctly. You're not being forced to do anything, but you keep complaining about the thing things you're not being forced to do.The thing making people write essays is the same that makes games journalists write gamers are dead articles; nothing, but people feel the need to do so anyways.
Like you said to Dreiko, I have no idea what you're saying. Can you expand on this? What makes you think that Dreiko thinks that "people aren't playing video games correctly"?So, once again, your problem is that people aren't playing video games correctly.