The Perfect Apolitical/Politics Free Video.
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The Matrix. The Wachowskis are trans women and wrote The Matrix as a coming out narrative. Which makes the whole "red pill" shit deeply ironic.
Case in point, women do things all the time in Final Fantasy, Bioshock, and Sonic, and nobody complains about that.
Remember The Ballad of Gay Tony? That was in GTA IV and nobody complained about that.
See, it's not just certain topics now is it? This is exactly my point.
Only some though.
Did people complain about the themes in Life is Strange 1?
How about My Ex Boyfriend the Space Tyrant?
How about basically every game developer Robert Yang has ever made?
How about Mass Effect 3, other than the small rural Church group who get mad at EA?
How about Primal on PS2?
It's almost like there's something different in the cases people complain about or something?
There's another thread going at the moment in which people are loudly complaining because a professional mercenary who happens to be a woman overpowered Nathan Drake in one scene.
No they didn't and the site that reported on that took quotes out of context. The Wachowskis actually said something like "Maybe on a subconscious level that impacted the writing but it wasn't a planned deliberate theme".
Kind of like how Hermione was always supposed to be black?
Nathan Drake AND his friend Sam in a 2v1.
Correction. Overpowers Nathan Drake and his brother at the same time with relative ease.
Women do things in Bioshock and Sonic which aren't considered to be doing things women apparently shouldn't be able to do, such as having muscles (Abby in TLOU2) or winning a fistfight (Nadine in Uncharted 4).
Women in FF do all sorts of stuff, but that's balanced out in the gamers' (TM) mind by the fact that about 7 in every 10 are dressed up in absurdly-revealing battle outfits. Remember when FF dressed a male protag up in similarly-revealing costumery (Mobius FF)? There was a huge backlash until the studio covered him up. Too "gay".
Yeah, this side character in one of the expansion packs for GTA4 got away with it. It's not a 100%-of-the-time deal.
Uhrm, yes, there was loads of whining about Life is Strange 1.
Never heard of Robert Yang or any of his games until now. Examples which are small indie titles specifically targeted towards the LGBTQ community isn't really what we're talking about, though, is it?
Again, yes, I remember complaints about gay romance options being in ME.
OK, yeah, it's totally unrealistic that a professional mercenary would be unable to overpower 2 visibly-exhausted amateur treasure-hunters after they've just climbed a building.
It's also kind of hilarious because I'm pretty sure my baby sister could take most of these complainers in a fight.
So, the question you should be asking is "why isn't it a 100%-of-the-time deal"? That should lead you to the flaw in your argument.
How many fistfights has Tifa won? Amy killed a robot with a hammer. Where are the people complaining about that? And remember, I'm just sticking with your examples of games. I could bring up fighting games, in which men and women are, by necessity, equals, and point out the lack of outcry over that, but I won't.
So you see, it's not about women, or even women doing things they shouldn't be able to do.
This is exactly my point.
This contradiction is the fatal flaw in your argument.
I mean, we're over here telling you exactly why we're outraged in each case, and you and others are going "no, you're all just bigots".
All you have to do is just listen.
Well that is a different argument. They arent complaining that a woman is in the game in the first place, which is what you implied originally.
Being annoyed about a woman beating up guys is stupid because it happens in every fucking movie ever and it is just as bogus there too. Its fucking fantasy there are some things that just require the suspension of disbelief.
That is why i never got involved with that part of that thread. Because the argument is stupid.
But to my point. Nobody outside of Battlefield V complains that the game features women in it full stop. Unless you have examples of such.
Thank you. That's what I've been telling some of these people, but they just don't get it (or don't want to). People are always going to interpret things certain ways even when there was no intention to be interpreted that way and inject their own ideologies. For better or worse. Usually the latter.
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If someone interprets a political meaning they dont like within a piece of media, that doesnt invalidate their complaints about it. And i think that is part of the problem these days because it almost feels like you arent allowed to dislike things.
You dont like Abby's big burly body, you are a sexist. Or whatever it is.
You can not like a thing you shouldnt have to be afraid to share your opinion because someone might think that because you didnt like the one lady means you automatically hate all ladies. Or whatever.
You're allowed to like/dislike whatever you want, just don't be an ass about it. That is the main problem. Doesn't matter if you like something or dislike something. The additional main problem being that you have heavy extremists on both sides that want to act like they're the only ones in the right and everybody else is wrong or misguided. Everyone spends too much time screaming at each other and not listening.
Yeah, don't be an ass by calling people bigots just because they don't like something.
"I understand perfectly. It's you who doesn't understand!"
You mean like that?
We could all go along way if we just agreed to disagree when arguments reached a stalemate.
I mean the problem with online discussions is that people dont really want their mind changed and will argue endlessly to no avail. Im guilty of it, i think we all are to at least some extent.
You can screw off with the self-righteousness. Follow your own advice and take a look at yourself in the mirror. Especially for someone that likes to derail threads, and ignore facts or truths in front of their faces. Or throws hissy fits when he gets called out on. So thank you for opening up about yourself.
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