High starts usually 11-13 yoa in Australia (grades 7 - 12, except WA ... think they're different).Doctor Glocktor said:But the thing is, how badly did that guy you're talking about have it? If he had the same experience this kids did, then maybe what your saying might work. But if it was just insults, then its not comparable.PaulH said:Not really, just saying is that I find it difficult to believe nobody here has actually been in a more shockingly violent or humiliating event during their tender years.Doctor Glocktor said:I'm not sure getting fired is equal to being beaten and stripped while on camera.PaulH said:Jesus massive paragraph
If you think that its acceptable to happen, solely because kids shouldn't be coddled, well, then, you have much more hardass outlook on life than most people do.
At the same time people bounce back. Like one kid I know, shortest in our grade (5'2'' by end of HS) ... picked on by everybody and certainly had it the hardest in my memory. Ran into him after coming back from Japan.
A pretty girl on his arm, wearing what looked to be $6000 worth of clothes and a lovely Rolex.
People bounce back. Lessons make the individual, and he learnt more lessons from school than anybody else.
So I don't buy this whole 'onoz, his life is over' bull crap. Whether he's successful or not, like 99.9% of bullied people (I mean, really ... who hasn't been bullied badly in their lifetime?), will depend entirely on his own capabilities and strength of character.
I think your seriously underestimating what happened to this kid. He was attacked, in broad daylight, nobody helping him. He was beaten, with a girl attacking his neck. And he was stripped, in public. I'm not sure he'll be able to recover like your guy did. I mean, this is kid is 11, and your guy was in High School; thats a pretty big difference when it comes to dealing with problems.
So it's comparable. It's even worse here because you have guys twice your height beating the living shit out of you. You know ... people 16+ when you can only look them in the knee cap and pretend like you might beable to reach their face with a punch.
And yes ... stripped butt naked, 'binned' and rolled into the lake (that was at my first high school). Assaulted with cricket bats (that was my favourite), being forced to play rugby with guys three times your weight class just so they could get some 'live' practice.
Being pelted with rotten fruit was particularly piquant during the summer months when the flies are worst.
Bad is bad ... but you get over that shit and you move on. Part of life and you become stronger for it ... and everybody goes through this type of 'life initiation rite' atleast once or twice in their life and you learn to fight back. Think of it as accelerated survival training for kids <.<