An Apology to Jon Finkel
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This is awful. I personally have the exact opposite problem what with trying to find a guy who doesn't run for the hills when I proclaim my love for gaming and other such nerdy habits...
A Gizmodo article about someone not wanting to date a nerd? It must have been a very slow news day, although that would explain the straight-faced article on Cracked railing against Top # Lists, and Joystiq lamenting the phenomenon of electronic games.
Of course she wants to create more traffic for her!sleeky01 said:
The beautiful irony here is that from now on, whenever anyone "googles the shit" out of Alyssa Bereznak, they'll find out she's a widely published journalist who will use her position to publicly mock the men she dates behind their backs.
Good luck on the dating scene, Alyssa!
You know, I actually wish I was coordinated enough to knit. I'd love to do a Doctor Who scarf for myself.Vuirneen said:
If I was a nerd girl, I would add myself to this list. However, I'm male, so I can't. But I will say this:
GO SUSAN GO!
GO SUSAN GO!
I'm a straight guy and even I want to go out with Mr. Finkel. The first date was to a one-man show about Jeffrey Dahmer? AWESOME.
this is why i hate women, they cant see past one thing about a guy
"oh but raiku, mot all women are like that" to that i respond "then where are they" you then point me to places like comic-com, PAX and the like where i just get called ugly, a rapist and a sin against god.
"oh but raiku, mot all women are like that" to that i respond "then where are they" you then point me to places like comic-com, PAX and the like where i just get called ugly, a rapist and a sin against god.
Thank you for calling out a fellow professional for very unprofessional behavior.
Re: Doctor Who scarves
If you ever do learn to knit, there are all kinds of instructions online with tips on choice of color, types of fiber, amounts to buy, which pattern matches which season of the show, etc. Nerds unite!
Re: Doctor Who scarves
If you ever do learn to knit, there are all kinds of instructions online with tips on choice of color, types of fiber, amounts to buy, which pattern matches which season of the show, etc. Nerds unite!
Wait.
Takes her to a show about Jeffrey fucking Dahmer as a date? Then the whole 'goes on dates with her friends' beforehand? Yeah, that is actually kind of creepy.
But are we going to get up in arms for all the times a reporter has gone out with a actor, athlete or other renowned type too, and then wrote about it later then? Cause we've got about 5 decades to sort though if so. Or is this just an up in arms thing because it is some perceived insult to self indoctrinated geek subculture?
Reading the article in context, this mostly comes off as a "Lets rage, a probably pretty girl went out with a geek by mistake and didn't like it! Which is fine! But she said so publicly, despite the guy being in the public eye to begin with, and apparently using it as a means to impress women, including some of her friends!! Shame! uncouth!"
Meh.
Takes her to a show about Jeffrey fucking Dahmer as a date? Then the whole 'goes on dates with her friends' beforehand? Yeah, that is actually kind of creepy.
But are we going to get up in arms for all the times a reporter has gone out with a actor, athlete or other renowned type too, and then wrote about it later then? Cause we've got about 5 decades to sort though if so. Or is this just an up in arms thing because it is some perceived insult to self indoctrinated geek subculture?
Reading the article in context, this mostly comes off as a "Lets rage, a probably pretty girl went out with a geek by mistake and didn't like it! Which is fine! But she said so publicly, despite the guy being in the public eye to begin with, and apparently using it as a means to impress women, including some of her friends!! Shame! uncouth!"
Meh.
Bleh. That woman is the sort of person that makes you wish the internet had a a filter of some kind. I realise it'd be a pretty congested filter, but still.
Thanks for making it that much more difficult to be a nerd (girl), Alyssa!
Thanks (genuine ones) to Susan for the awesome stand =)
Thanks for making it that much more difficult to be a nerd (girl), Alyssa!
Thanks (genuine ones) to Susan for the awesome stand =)
I don't know who Jon Finkel is, nor how to play Magic, but what she did was disrespectful and it makes women look bad.
I can't help but be surprised at the amount of female gamers apologising to Jon for what recently happened. Not to mention, I'm surprised that Jon is using OkCupid at all, I would of thought professionals of his pedigree would already have a girlfriend, if not a wife. I am also surprised that the girl blogged something like that and expecting nothing bad to happen, especially it's not only slander to someone people respect but also symbolises something absolutely wrong with some groups of individuals.
I don't know, this entire thing is not only humanising but also the complete opposite. Not to mention, it's filled with surprises.
I don't know, this entire thing is not only humanising but also the complete opposite. Not to mention, it's filled with surprises.
This is marvelous!
I love both, Magic and "interesting", controvertial journalism, this hits both, so I'm already kind of satisfied. To me, all the linked articles were kind of fun to read, mainly because i thought, every one of them is the same but with twisted content! Did anyone realize this? To me the crux lies withn the simple sentence
I, personally, reject the whole concept of "Judging people on shallow stuff", I don't care if I get called a nerd, freak or anything, ever, and simply reject to categorize others in this way, there are no "stupid", or "mean", or whatever people, only different ways of thinking and probably behaviour lacking some empathy, or regard of others, just as the article says itself
And I think, if people just would think twice about this, it might be so much easier. Because it seems kind of awkward to me to say
So my suggestion would be to think about my/your own ways of thinking first, then what they actually did there and then if you want to encourage it by doing the same, or not, in this particular case and in general.
And, not to forget, the pure irony! the utter irony of the card "Sorry", because, sorry *ouch*/excuse me, don't try to play a copy of a spell already done without the will to take the damage, or be countered, because you (edit: after reading some replys, this could be pointing at most of you) just played a copy of Alyssa's "Prejudice" XD
I would be proud of some traffic/discussion about this myself
I love both, Magic and "interesting", controvertial journalism, this hits both, so I'm already kind of satisfied. To me, all the linked articles were kind of fun to read, mainly because i thought, every one of them is the same but with twisted content! Did anyone realize this? To me the crux lies withn the simple sentence
and every of those articles, the "Gizmodo; My Brief OkCupid Affair With a World Champion Magic: The Gathering Player", the "Forbes; The Science of Gawker's Nerd Baiting" and "The Escapist; An Apology to Jon Finkel" does too. This is hilarious, how Alyssa judges a "Nerd", Forbes judges a whole way of journalism "Nerd baiting", which they seem to kind of utilise themselves the other way around and this very Escapist article by judging a person for judging a person. Now, don't get me wrong, I don't want to say this isn't worth mentioning, in the manner of freedom of speech you are empowered and encouraged to write whatever you want, except, maybeAlyssa Bereznak said:
and there you shot your own foot, I think XDSusan Arendt said:
I, personally, reject the whole concept of "Judging people on shallow stuff", I don't care if I get called a nerd, freak or anything, ever, and simply reject to categorize others in this way, there are no "stupid", or "mean", or whatever people, only different ways of thinking and probably behaviour lacking some empathy, or regard of others, just as the article says itself
I only see different people, in this case: Jon Finkle, who I only could admire for mastering something i like, but couldn't say anything else about, Alyssa Bereznak who I would like to talk about her way of journalism, judging others and publishing those judgements in the net, but couldn't say anything else about and Susan, referring to this article i would like to, and are doing with this, just the same, but couldn't say anything else about.Susan Arendt said:
And I think, if people just would think twice about this, it might be so much easier. Because it seems kind of awkward to me to say
when there are still so many discussions about it and this kind of discussion, giving traffic and public attention to articles stylising stereotypes back and forth only encourages those images. This doesn't make it better by itself, only our own ways of thinking does!Forbes said:
So my suggestion would be to think about my/your own ways of thinking first, then what they actually did there and then if you want to encourage it by doing the same, or not, in this particular case and in general.
And, not to forget, the pure irony! the utter irony of the card "Sorry", because, sorry *ouch*/excuse me, don't try to play a copy of a spell already done without the will to take the damage, or be countered, because you (edit: after reading some replys, this could be pointing at most of you) just played a copy of Alyssa's "Prejudice" XD
I would be proud of some traffic/discussion about this myself
