You know, I actually wish I was coordinated enough to knit. I'd love to do a Doctor Who scarf for myself.Vuirneen said:
An Apology to Jon Finkel
- Thread starter Susan Arendt
- Start date
If I was a nerd girl, I would add myself to this list. However, I'm male, so I can't. But I will say this:
GO SUSAN GO!
GO SUSAN GO!
I'm a straight guy and even I want to go out with Mr. Finkel. The first date was to a one-man show about Jeffrey Dahmer? AWESOME.
this is why i hate women, they cant see past one thing about a guy
"oh but raiku, mot all women are like that" to that i respond "then where are they" you then point me to places like comic-com, PAX and the like where i just get called ugly, a rapist and a sin against god.
"oh but raiku, mot all women are like that" to that i respond "then where are they" you then point me to places like comic-com, PAX and the like where i just get called ugly, a rapist and a sin against god.
Thank you for calling out a fellow professional for very unprofessional behavior.
Re: Doctor Who scarves
If you ever do learn to knit, there are all kinds of instructions online with tips on choice of color, types of fiber, amounts to buy, which pattern matches which season of the show, etc. Nerds unite!
Re: Doctor Who scarves
If you ever do learn to knit, there are all kinds of instructions online with tips on choice of color, types of fiber, amounts to buy, which pattern matches which season of the show, etc. Nerds unite!
Wait.
Takes her to a show about Jeffrey fucking Dahmer as a date? Then the whole 'goes on dates with her friends' beforehand? Yeah, that is actually kind of creepy.
But are we going to get up in arms for all the times a reporter has gone out with a actor, athlete or other renowned type too, and then wrote about it later then? Cause we've got about 5 decades to sort though if so. Or is this just an up in arms thing because it is some perceived insult to self indoctrinated geek subculture?
Reading the article in context, this mostly comes off as a "Lets rage, a probably pretty girl went out with a geek by mistake and didn't like it! Which is fine! But she said so publicly, despite the guy being in the public eye to begin with, and apparently using it as a means to impress women, including some of her friends!! Shame! uncouth!"
Meh.
Takes her to a show about Jeffrey fucking Dahmer as a date? Then the whole 'goes on dates with her friends' beforehand? Yeah, that is actually kind of creepy.
But are we going to get up in arms for all the times a reporter has gone out with a actor, athlete or other renowned type too, and then wrote about it later then? Cause we've got about 5 decades to sort though if so. Or is this just an up in arms thing because it is some perceived insult to self indoctrinated geek subculture?
Reading the article in context, this mostly comes off as a "Lets rage, a probably pretty girl went out with a geek by mistake and didn't like it! Which is fine! But she said so publicly, despite the guy being in the public eye to begin with, and apparently using it as a means to impress women, including some of her friends!! Shame! uncouth!"
Meh.
Bleh. That woman is the sort of person that makes you wish the internet had a a filter of some kind. I realise it'd be a pretty congested filter, but still.
Thanks for making it that much more difficult to be a nerd (girl), Alyssa!
Thanks (genuine ones) to Susan for the awesome stand =)
Thanks for making it that much more difficult to be a nerd (girl), Alyssa!
Thanks (genuine ones) to Susan for the awesome stand =)
I don't know who Jon Finkel is, nor how to play Magic, but what she did was disrespectful and it makes women look bad.
I can't help but be surprised at the amount of female gamers apologising to Jon for what recently happened. Not to mention, I'm surprised that Jon is using OkCupid at all, I would of thought professionals of his pedigree would already have a girlfriend, if not a wife. I am also surprised that the girl blogged something like that and expecting nothing bad to happen, especially it's not only slander to someone people respect but also symbolises something absolutely wrong with some groups of individuals.
I don't know, this entire thing is not only humanising but also the complete opposite. Not to mention, it's filled with surprises.
I don't know, this entire thing is not only humanising but also the complete opposite. Not to mention, it's filled with surprises.
This is marvelous!
I love both, Magic and "interesting", controvertial journalism, this hits both, so I'm already kind of satisfied. To me, all the linked articles were kind of fun to read, mainly because i thought, every one of them is the same but with twisted content! Did anyone realize this? To me the crux lies withn the simple sentence
I, personally, reject the whole concept of "Judging people on shallow stuff", I don't care if I get called a nerd, freak or anything, ever, and simply reject to categorize others in this way, there are no "stupid", or "mean", or whatever people, only different ways of thinking and probably behaviour lacking some empathy, or regard of others, just as the article says itself
And I think, if people just would think twice about this, it might be so much easier. Because it seems kind of awkward to me to say
So my suggestion would be to think about my/your own ways of thinking first, then what they actually did there and then if you want to encourage it by doing the same, or not, in this particular case and in general.
And, not to forget, the pure irony! the utter irony of the card "Sorry", because, sorry *ouch*/excuse me, don't try to play a copy of a spell already done without the will to take the damage, or be countered, because you (edit: after reading some replys, this could be pointing at most of you) just played a copy of Alyssa's "Prejudice" XD
I would be proud of some traffic/discussion about this myself
I love both, Magic and "interesting", controvertial journalism, this hits both, so I'm already kind of satisfied. To me, all the linked articles were kind of fun to read, mainly because i thought, every one of them is the same but with twisted content! Did anyone realize this? To me the crux lies withn the simple sentence
and every of those articles, the "Gizmodo; My Brief OkCupid Affair With a World Champion Magic: The Gathering Player", the "Forbes; The Science of Gawker's Nerd Baiting" and "The Escapist; An Apology to Jon Finkel" does too. This is hilarious, how Alyssa judges a "Nerd", Forbes judges a whole way of journalism "Nerd baiting", which they seem to kind of utilise themselves the other way around and this very Escapist article by judging a person for judging a person. Now, don't get me wrong, I don't want to say this isn't worth mentioning, in the manner of freedom of speech you are empowered and encouraged to write whatever you want, except, maybeAlyssa Bereznak said:
and there you shot your own foot, I think XDSusan Arendt said:
I, personally, reject the whole concept of "Judging people on shallow stuff", I don't care if I get called a nerd, freak or anything, ever, and simply reject to categorize others in this way, there are no "stupid", or "mean", or whatever people, only different ways of thinking and probably behaviour lacking some empathy, or regard of others, just as the article says itself
I only see different people, in this case: Jon Finkle, who I only could admire for mastering something i like, but couldn't say anything else about, Alyssa Bereznak who I would like to talk about her way of journalism, judging others and publishing those judgements in the net, but couldn't say anything else about and Susan, referring to this article i would like to, and are doing with this, just the same, but couldn't say anything else about.Susan Arendt said:
And I think, if people just would think twice about this, it might be so much easier. Because it seems kind of awkward to me to say
when there are still so many discussions about it and this kind of discussion, giving traffic and public attention to articles stylising stereotypes back and forth only encourages those images. This doesn't make it better by itself, only our own ways of thinking does!Forbes said:
So my suggestion would be to think about my/your own ways of thinking first, then what they actually did there and then if you want to encourage it by doing the same, or not, in this particular case and in general.
And, not to forget, the pure irony! the utter irony of the card "Sorry", because, sorry *ouch*/excuse me, don't try to play a copy of a spell already done without the will to take the damage, or be countered, because you (edit: after reading some replys, this could be pointing at most of you) just played a copy of Alyssa's "Prejudice" XD
I would be proud of some traffic/discussion about this myself
The reason why I signed, was her complete lack of professionalism, as well as the Mean Girl act she was putting on to get hits for her piece. Which is why I have told my friends about it, and copying the works to be shown instead of having them go to her post's page. She doesn't deserve the traffic over this.
On the bright side? Jon has been getting a large amount of support, from male and female gamers. He has shown what a good person he is, that instead of going to her level and spreading insults, he simply answered questions honestly and honorably about the incident. He isn't looking to smash her down or smite her; from all his reactions to it, I would say he has gained quite a few non Magic playing fans, including myself.
On the bright side? Jon has been getting a large amount of support, from male and female gamers. He has shown what a good person he is, that instead of going to her level and spreading insults, he simply answered questions honestly and honorably about the incident. He isn't looking to smash her down or smite her; from all his reactions to it, I would say he has gained quite a few non Magic playing fans, including myself.
See, this is why I think it's bad to spin this article as "a WOMAN was shallow" rather than "a STUPID MORON was shallow." People use this as another jumping off point to whine about women.RaikuFA said:
Dude, you'll find somebody if you look. If you feel bad about your appearance or social skills, these are things you can work on. Bonsaik has a great relationship thread. Don't hate all women. I mean, you're hating women for things they haven't even done to you yet-that's a lot worse than some woman not liking you (or not dating you) because of her own shallow reasons. Don't become another passive-aggressive internet nice guy. I mean, it sucks your ex was a jerk, but there are nice people out there from both genders.
I guess because the story revolves around a Magic Champion getting accused of lying, being mocked and generally humiliated by some jumped up self centered cow using their date as a way to boost her own readers.questionnairebot said:
As Magic has a pretty big folloing, its pretty safe to say that it does appeal to a large chunk of the readers.
Personally I found more enjoyment reading the comments section... I'd be surprised if Gizmodo bother to publish anything else by her.
