Anonymous PSN Attackers Arrested in Spain

[Wulfheri]

I really hate Anonymous. Their "boilerplate response" only adds to my annoyance.

Just let your freedom be stolen by everyone.(sarcasm) Anonymous defends our freedom, they are working for ideals.

 

[Skizle]

Huzzah! A good day for the world to see these criminals apprehended!

I cant see how you see this as a good day. millions of dollars(tax payer dollars) are being spent every day and the best they can come up with is 3? Not to mention that they probably are not even leaders considering that Anon has no real leaders just justifies that they are trying to make themselves look good to the public. All they really did was take 3 legs off of a centipede and if my biology serves right a centipede can still move with 3 legs missing.

 

[Midnight Crossroads]

Three hackers in Spain does not equal the Anon collective there?

Considering Anon is "supposed" to be leaderless too, arresting 3 guys wont really have that much of an effect, aside from perhaps scaring those who know the three a little.

It depends. Arresting three /b/tards using scripts someone else wrote to attack a website will do nothing. Arresting three hackers who know what they're doing well enough to break into PSN and steal credit card numbers will do a lot of damage. If there are thousands of people working with Anonymous, you can bet only a handful will actually have any real impact. The rest are there just to serve as cannon fodder should shit hit the fan.

 

[Sovvolf]

Can someone explain to me how one can arrest the leaders of a leaderless group?

I don't know.

But maybe, just maybe, and this is a stretch, I know, Anon isn't quite as leaderless as they want people to think. It's kind of hard to organize anything if everyone is just doing whatever the hell they want. In all likely hood, these men were the leaders of certain operations, not the group as a whole. If you've ever been involved in any group work, you probably have an idea of what I am talking about.

There's no such thing as a leaderless group, we as humans always follow the alpha no matter how hard we try to avoid it. If anon is a group, then they'll have a leader, they'd probably not even realize it or like to admit it, but they will be. Not to sound cliche but its human nature as a social, tribal species.

Excuse me, I think that the PSN attacks were with a REASON. To show people how important privacy is. Never give personal data away, that's their message.

The choice of what people do with their personal data should be left with them and not at the whims of an internet group. Doing that pretty much puts them in the whole "Do what we say or else" area.

I really hate Anonymous. Their "boilerplate response" only adds to my annoyance.

Just let your freedom be stolen by everyone.(sarcasm) Anonymous defends our freedom, they are working for ideals.

Yep, telling us what we can and can't do with our personal information is really defending our freedoms to do what we like...

As for the news itself... Not real sure what to think. If they were the ones that were attacking PSN then I'm glad they've been caught, they are criminals. However I don't know I'm sort of doubtful.

 

[JET1971]

Anon DDOSed PSN they didnt hack it. reporter fail. If these guys were involved in the PSN hack then they did it outside of Anon on there own.

 

[Random Argument Man]

I'll expect a reaction from Anonymous as some point.

Why? It was my understanding that Anonymous threw these guys under the bus already.

I must've skipped that line. It would teach me to do 6 things at a time. I've edited it out anow I'm wondering if we'll see a domino effect from this.

 

[Mr. 47]

Three years? What the hell! They caused millions, if not billions, of dollars worth of damage, identity theft (to a degree at least) and large scale hacking and all they get is Three years?! Epic, EPIC, law fail.

 

[Wintermoot]

I,m actually pro anonymous also haven,t we established THEY DIDN'T DO IT? seriously who the fuck is such a genius to leave their business card at the scene of a a crime?

 

[Saltyk]

Can someone explain to me how one can arrest the leaders of a leaderless group?

I don't know.

But maybe, just maybe, and this is a stretch, I know, Anon isn't quite as leaderless as they want people to think. It's kind of hard to organize anything if everyone is just doing whatever the hell they want. In all likely hood, these men were the leaders of certain operations, not the group as a whole. If you've ever been involved in any group work, you probably have an idea of what I am talking about.

There's no such thing as a leaderless group, we as humans always follow the alpha no matter how hard we try to avoid it. If anon is a group, then they'll have a leader, they'd probably not even realize it or like to admit it, but they will be. Not to sound cliche but its human nature as a social, tribal species.

Yeah, that was kind of my point. If Anon truly had no organization or leadership, they would never accomplish anything as a group. The existence of AnonOps kind of underscores that.

I don't know how they might be organized, but I imagine it's likely a system where someone comes up with an idea and asks for help. Others then agree to help, but the original person with the concept, or someone else who volunteers, likely coordinates the whole operation. This might not be a classic leadership, but it's most certainly not leaderless.

 

[Aurora219]

The thing I take from this article:

The police have Twitter..?!

 

[zehydra]

Waiting for Escapists to demand they be punished by prison rape, performed by state-sponsored rapists.

Because a crime is a crime, and criminals are criminals. And because I couldn't frag for two whole weeks.

I'm sort of neutral on this issue. They were stupid enough to get caught, so they deserved to.

That argument never made any sense to me. Justice has nothing to do with a person's intelligence.

 

[Sougo]

Would be ironic (if not unexpected) that now that Anon has a few visible faces, Sony would sue them for so much that their great great grandchildren would still live out their lives plagued in debt.

 

[zehydra]

Can someone explain to me how one can arrest the leaders of a leaderless group?

Exactly, I have the funny feeling that the Spanish government really doesn't understand this thing at all.

BTW, I may be wrong on this, but wasn't it lulzsec, a specific branch of Anonymous that targeted the PSN?

 

[MrGFunk]

How much money did Sony lose? How much fun have we missed?

3 years doesn't seem like enough. I reckon it'll change them substantially though.

 

[The Cake Is Annoying]

Shouldn't the police be battering people on the streets of Barcelona in broad daylight? Or was that last week?

Oh who cares. Anyone who takes videogames away from fanboys is bad, right? And if the police who crack the skulls of protestors blame someone who are we to say otherwise?

KILL THEM. KILL THEM ALL. THEY TOOK OUR GAMES AWAY. FIND WHERE THEY LIVE AND SHOOT THEIR PETS TOO. BECAUSE I HATE ANONYMOUS.

(You know if you piss Anonymous off, they may try taking out Sony/Microsoft/Nintendo's networks simultaneously. And I wouldn't dare bet that they couldn't do it either)

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Dear god, look what they're capable of.

 

[Temah]

So Anonymous has actually been directly accused now? not to try and defend them but don't they stand for 'free speech', why the hell would they attack banks.

 

[Regiment]

Waiting for Escapists to demand they be punished by prison rape, performed by state-sponsored rapists.

See, the freelance ones can be cheaper, but then you have to deal with the rapists' unions, and that's just a mess.

Seriously though, this is good news. (Both that these guys were arrested and that the Escapist isn't screaming out for blood.)

 

[Harry Mason]

They attacked a bank?

I'm also wondering why they are getting such a short sentence... I don't want them to rot, but those offenses sound pretty serious.

 

[craddoke]

Lesson: If you want to undermine a populist group, just blame them for hacking a game console system - heck, hack it yourself and blame them for it.

Someone suspicious might remark on the similarities between recent events and efforts in the nineteenth century to associate union leaders with terrorist activities - and with communism more recently than that.

 

[Gr8gam3r]

Excuse me, I think that the PSN attacks were with a REASON. To show people how important privacy is. Never give personal data away, that's their message.

Our modern world couldn't operate without giving some information away. I want to buy goods online? I have to give my address and credit card details. How else could it work?
It's just keeping the trust between the two parties. It's a shame Anonymous goes to these lengths to try and break that trust.